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Angel
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Absurd! |
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Angel
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Yes I know and in some european countries the pig is a good luck charm. I left them out because europe is part of the western world.
Do you think you can get off this notion about being brutal and eating pig? or any animal that snatches food. Because it is false. Look around you today and those that eat pork. You are grasping at straws to validate not eating pork supposedly making you brutal or violent. I gave you other animals that people eat. eskimos hunt and eat seal it is their staple diet, they clubber the seal on the head, brutal I say but eskimos are not known to eat pork, and yet are gentle people apart from clubbing the seal to death What about those that eat rabbit (and not eat pork), go and hunt them in traps or shoot them ? what about deer?
You say that the christian conquers were more brutal and my question is: How many of those conquers do you know that ate pork? Edited by Angel |
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Angel
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I believe amah that reepicheep got his notion from Candid who mentioned this (below) in his first post which by the way Candid did not mention qu'ran so that was a mistake on reepi's side.
But Candid has not brought evidence from islam about it thou, and I am in the middle of conversing with him that it is absurd he is trying to make it valid that those who eat pork are brutal. So in a counter balance reepicheep brought the chicken point and asked about islams position on it. |
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Sign*Reader
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Quote by Angel :
again, absurd. Quoting an incomplete text indicates that you own the the rights to the absurdity. I said as follow: Whereas the Islam's requires the normal believer to do certain rituals
to curb all the listed conditions and create a personality of modesty,
temperance, sacrifice, passion, peace, charitableness and humility by
salah, fasting and zkat and Hajj as appropriate which a pork lover may
never do. You thought you knew better about the state of moral turpitude of the pork eating people in orient or occident, you asked for it you will got it: the real scenarios and say how they jive with my statement Majority out of wedlock/illegitimate births in European countries Child rapes Catholic Preachers molesting boys in US (there being no uproar from the laity for paying out millions in settlements cuz they would do the same if they could get away) Ted Haggard resigned as president of the influential National Association of Evangelicals, an umbrella group representing more than45,000 churches with 30 million member after getting exposed. Go have some more pork now!cus he was closet druggie and homosexual while married. It is the greatest example of hypocrisies of these Evangelicals working against Islam like you. Remember another one JImmy Swaggert getting caught with prostitutes! Alcoholism, Drug addiction, Gang banging, Porn industry head quartered in San Fernando valley California, Gambling Open(legal or otherwise) prostitution, European prostitutes flooding ME Mate swapping; Child molesters traveling to the orient/India for cheap availability of the child prostitutes. Do you want more Edited by Sign*Reader |
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Reepicheep
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So, Sign*Reader, just to confirm what you are claiming... You are saying that it is a core Muslim belief that people take on the behavioral characteristics of any animals they eat. For example, you believe that any Muslim who eats chicken is a coward who eats human excrement. Correct? |
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Sign*Reader
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No it is not part of Muslim belief, it is my own observation. What the Muslims have been told? Don't eat it just like the Israelites. Nothing new! Why are you so hung up on chicken n shit? fetish-like! You need to start thread on chicken if you like! |
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Angel
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I know exactly what you said! you showed a list of what normal believer (muslims or anyone) is, those who do not eat pork are modest, temperance, sacifice, passion, peace, charitableness and are humility (and for muslims) by salah, fasting, sakat and hajj. (Take away the islamic activities) You are saying that pork lovers are not modest, temperancec, sacifice, passion, peace, charitable and humility. AND I say it is absurd! and I will say it till I am blue inthe face, because there is nothing supporting it, nor nothing supporting or showing that those who are eating pork act like the animals or do those horrible acts you listed in your scenarios! Am I a pig because I eat pork and enjoy it when I have it. Am I not charitable or have humilty and is peaceful??, that is what you are saying about me and many other people who eat pork. I brought stuff to counter act you. I am sorry that you are not happy with but I am not happy that you are being insulting towards me because i like pork and saying that I am or do those things you listed. I pointed out so many things in opposing when speaking to Candid, go and read.
You thought you knew better about the state of moral turpitude of the pork eating people in orient or occident, you asked for it you will got it: Well I am one that eats pork and know many others, don't you think I am best to say to you otherwise?? All of your senarios just don't happen to those who eat pork! And anyway, what do you know of their eating habits - have you been invited to dinner?? Those who know me here know that I do not or am not what you say! I am using me as an example, which I am pretty much putting myself on the line here for ridicule Sign reader, your intelligent enough to know better. I am surprised that you are pressing the bad/unmoral/sinful behaviour onto those who eat pork.
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candid
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I see. Let me put it this way. There were many conquerors in the past who ate pork. However, I only consider Europeans vs Muslims, because these are the only 2 groups who dominated the world as much as they did. Comparing the two does give a good perspective as to how eating pork affects the behavior of the population. There were other conqerors too who ate pork, but it is difficult to compare them with Muslims because their issues were much different. Its like you can compare TV of different brands, but you cannot compare a TV with radio. |
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