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Nausheen
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Bhartiya, Peace to you. If you are rational with me, you will find me rational. If you fight with your presumptions that do not apply to me, I will not accept. You said you dont want Muslims to leave, but I have found many, many hindus who put us into a witness box coaxing us to prove our loyalty to India Why do you do this? Why do you not think muslims can be as loyal to India as any Indian born in that country? I want to show you something, and this will be the end of my discussion with you. I hope you enjoy your stay at IC, if u dont speak the language of hate. Check this ..... http://wb.islamicity.com:8080/~IslamiCity/read?56716,47 .... read the whole thread -
Also read this http://wb.islamicity.com:8080/~IslamiCity/read?63606,47 ... Read the whole thread. I am not what you thought I am. And you offend me by presuming my ideals as what I have always stood against. Peace.
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ZamanH
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That's not right. But that's off the topic, therefore, I won't comment on it further.
I don't support "Islamic" terrorism. But Indian govt. did not manufacture the air Muslims breathe in, the land they live in or the water they drink. Muslims owe their allegiance to Allah and not the Indian Govt. Muslims identify themselves more with their religion than their country. We see Indian govt. as a partner, not as God. |
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An enemy of an enemy is a fickle friend.
There will be more women in hell than men. ..for persecution is worse than the slaughter of the enemy..(Quran 2:191) Heaven lies under mother's feet |
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ZamanH
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That is interesting. But lets admit it Muslims also tend to do the same. For example if you look at Muslims in Eastern Europe or those settled in the West. |
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Nausheen
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Acceptable. However, in general it is those muslims, who have come from a country (Islamic republic) where Islamic sharia is imposed without reason or rationale. Like the saudis, the Iranis, or the egyptians. And again I will say they are a small fraction of that population. Here, and in Japan, I met many muslims from Indonesia, Malaysia, Iran, Egypt, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Morocco, Somalia (I dont know may be am missing a few) and they are all adhering to Islam as beautifully as one should. For Hindus, who are coming from India, there is no sharia no religious stiffling going on for them in India, yet they adopt to the ways of the west very fast - this was my point. Peace (if you want it)
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ZamanH
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I was not talking of political refugees. Besides, they don't change simply because of the oppression they face in their country. That is not the cause. Those Muslims, who appear to you to have changed after coming to the West, actually lived in the same manner in their own country and because of which they had to abandon their land. They didn't change after coming to the West (they had changed much earlier).
Either you are right or my brother (he has been working in the U.S for more than one and a half year). I don't know.
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ZamanH
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Muslims are backward because Muslims are traditional and are averse to WEstern education. Maybe that is because Islam is a monothiestic religion and corruption (or exploitation of the poor) in the name of religion has been less in Islam compared to other religions, as a result of which modern Muslims reformers didn't attack their religion, unlike reformers in other religions such as Hinduism who attacked the practise of caste-system etc. |
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bharatiya
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Sister Nausheen,
Peace be to all.
No offence meant.
Well, there is a general belief in most 'hindus' that Muslims are
not patriotic. This may be because of their allegaince with
Pakistan. As Zaman brother himself said, "Muslims identify themselves more with their religion than their country."
This is dubbed as "Muslims are unpatriotic". And their had been
instances of Muslims betraying the government. For example, a
Muslim who was made the head of RAW, fled to Pakistan. From then
on RAW waivered to recruit Muslims into RAW. And underworlds
like, Dawood Ibrahim and Abu Salem, seem to strength it.
Well, even I sometimes ask my Muslim friends, "Do you really like India?". I have said thats the general feeling.
I never asked to show your loyalty.
I never thought anything about you. And I am sorry if I hurt you sister Nausheen. Peace and Love. |
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