Thousands die in Indonesian quake

Angel wrote: Tell me why should they take it as punishment ? why should innocent people take this as punishment when they have not done anything wrong?

angel, how do you know that they have not done any wrong? i believe that they have done wrong that is why Allah is punishing them from these earthquakes, and even volcanoes.

Angel wrote: Why would God/Allah be so cruel like this to punish people because of a few that may sin ??

If the Ummah leaves Allah's Sharee`ah, ignores the Deen of Allah ta`ala and follows its enemies, Allah will subjugate it to His armies, which no one knows except He. From among these armies are the earthquakes.

"Such is the Seizure of your Lord when He seizes the towns while they are doing wrong. Verily, His Seizure is painful and severe." (11:102)

"When We decide to destroy a town, We (first) send a definite order (to obey Allah and be righteous) to those among them who are given the good things of this life. Then, they transgress therein, and thus the word (of torment) is justified against (them). Then we destroy it with complete destruction." (17:16)

Allah, subhanahu wa ta`ala, with this earthquake makes clear to His servants a plain reality, that the kingdom of the heavens and the earth is in His Hands, subhanahu wa ta`ala, and that He is the Irresistible and Dominant over His servants.

From among the established Sunan of Allah is that He does not send punishment except due to sin and He does not remove it except after repentance. Allah ta`ala says, "Whatever misfortune befalls you, it is because of what your hands have earned." (42:30)

Allah the Mighty and Majestic says: "Evil and mischief have appeared on land and sea because of what the hands of men have earned, that Allah may make them taste a part of that which they have done, in order that they may return (by repenting to Allah)." [30:41]

Every disaster and every calamity that befalls the servants is due to their sins and wrongdoing. So know, servants of Allah, what wrongdoing does to its doers.

Angel wrote: Salman just re-read Peacemarkers post again, I don't think you fullly understand it.

ok, i understand what you are trying to say angel. see, all earthquakes cannot be said as a punishment from Allah, but where the earthquakes are frequently occuring, example indonesia, there the muslims should take it as a punishment from Allah. Allah like repentance very much. the indonesians should repent to Allah for their sins and try to become better muslims.

Angel wrote: Colin wrote: the evidence is the earthquake which is constantly striking the indonesian regions. Allah punishes the wrongdoers. after the tsunami struck, i heard many indonesians themselves saying that Allah has punished them because of their sins. The tsunami also killed people in India, Sri Lanka, The Maldives, Thailand, and Malaysia. I wonder why god felt the need to punish so many people of different religions.. I wonder why he only chose to punish those unlucky enough to be living in coastal areas...is there something about sea air that makes people sin more than those living away from the sea? regarding places where there are no people living and earthquakes and volcanoes strike, then Allah does what he wills. we cannot question Allah. I am not questioning god. These events happen because we live on a geologically unstable planet.. better watch out now, salman is goign to say Allah willed, made an unstable planet

this is what islam is - complete submission to Allah