To those who follow the Sunnah Only

Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Assalamu alaikum

sis alwardah Allah swt tells us in Holy Quran that He is with those who do sabr, bout a while back i decided what u have said and then came across ayah in Surah Al-Imran which mentions how people of previous ummahs were destroyed due to their abandoning of enjoining the good and forbiding the evil while they knew of it.  sis we are called the best of nations due to this exact reason. there is also a hadith which mentions that a person is going to be asked bout his knowledge, if he knew of some thing but did not advise on being asked.

u need to realize that when u r trying to answer some1 with best of ur ability and knowledge, only for the pleasure of ur Lord and to uphold His deen and at the same time being polite and observing manners. then u r earning the reward of Allah swt, if the person finds it in himself/herself to follow the truth then alhamdulillah double the reward for u, if not khair u done ur bit. if u hear bad words for stating the laws of Allah swt then do sabr and again alhamdulillah more thwab so see Allah swt has put so much in for the da'i. i dont know why u want to deprive urself of such reward, i know it is also stated that if what u going to say is going2 cause a fitnah then silence is better.  but u need to analyze the consequences, this forum being sort of dawah way could be giving wrong image of of deen. there is another narration which states that u should choose lesser of two evils and sis due to many factors there is already enuf wrong stuff out there bout our beautifull deen, dont need no more. so i think this day n age some of us some time has to stand up for our deen.

now u mentioned bout not referencing the Ayaat and Ahadith to lesson the confussion but im telling u people would ask proof, and im against this moreso due to one of Hadith Qudsi which states that Allah swt remembers His slave when slave remembers Him. so im sorry but cant let the opportunity go by

lastly sis herjihad, i can tell u one thing making my Lord witness of my innermost intention that arrogance, pride and all this, if seven heaven away would still not be at a comfortable distance for me due to many Ahadith mentioning that existance of even a spec of pride is enuf for to be thrown in hellfire, audhubillah. n im sure i could say same thing bout sis alwardah, ummziba or anybody else who sincerely seeks the path.  my sister tells me that when u have kids u start prefering them and their happiness to ur own. sis if a person tries to adhere to every ruling of our dear Lord and avoids every thing with a slight doubt then u get this love inside u for ur Lord, u put ur Lord first in every dealing of urs, a blessing from Him ofcourse that if some1 is doing something which is in slight contradiction to ur Lord's way disturbs u. u want every1 to come to complete submission, people who state the ruling simply say it for this reason nothing else

i think we should try to tolerate different viewpoints, having patience but at the same time state what is right by our Lord in goodly manner.

wassalam

Alwardah wrote: herjihad wrote:  Also, if we avoid each other, how will we come to understand and respect each other? Peace As Salamu Alaikum Sister Herjihad Is this possible here in this forum- understand and respect? Sister let me emphasize a very important point. I don�t have any problems on how you or anyone chooses or desires to worship Allah Subhanahu wa Ta�ala Alhamdulillah that is between you and HIM. But I definitely have a problem when you accuse those of us (me or anyone else) who quote an Ayah or Hadith containing a warning about Hell, that we are saying you are going to Hell Audho Billahe minash Shaitanir-Rajim! How can we when we don�t even know our own position with Allah. All we are doing is conveying Allah�s Message from the authentic sources. I don�t understand how you can accuse us for something that Allah Subhanahu wa Ta�ala is Saying. Alhamdulillah! This time around the disagreement was not between You and me. Alhamdulillah! May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta�ala always keep us on His Siratul-Mustaqeem Ameen! Wa Alaikum Salam

Alaykum Assalaam Sister Flower,

Of course I read your original post and the last one directed to Sister Ummziba also.  I just don't want to take the time to refute what you say point-by-point because you probably don't want to read it, so what's the point? 

Well, you see there are many, many people who are Muslims like me who have been driven out of the Mosques or just don't attend or try to learn how to read Quran and other basic things because the atmosphere is guided by ideas in the posts you just made.  I think you are wrong about some things.  I love and respect our Loving Lord and our Blessed Prophets.  Maybe you and others like you will not see the arrogance in your post that you just made.  Maybe you will. 

The point is:  I have a community now.  Sisters whom I love and love me have met through IC and either agree with each other on this basic issue or agree not to discuss something we know we won't come to terms with.  Others out there need a community also.  They come here all the time lonely and looking for help or advice. 

Your advice, although you may feel that it's just the Quran and the prophets and the scholars advice, isn't the only valid advice.  People need to be able to choose.  And don't you see your implication in your statement that I and others like me will misguide people?  AstagfirAllah!  Islaam is so wonderful and beautiful and I don't worry that hardliners and literalists will misguide people because Allah, The Most Capable, is in charge, not me.  I'm just going to keep trying to convey the love for Allah that I have in my heart so that others may benefit from it.  (And to be honest, it makes me feel good to reach out a hand to those who need it also.)

Peace

herjihad wrote:  Also, if we avoid each other, how will we come to understand and respect each other? Peace

As Salamu Alaikum Sister Herjihad

Is this possible here in this forum- understand and respect?

Sister let me emphasize a very important point. I don�t have any problems on how you or anyone chooses or desires to worship Allah Subhanahu wa Ta�ala Alhamdulillah that is between you and HIM.

But I definitely have a problem when you accuse those of us (me or anyone else) who quote an Ayah or Hadith containing a warning about Hell, that we are saying you are going to Hell Audho Billahe minash Shaitanir-Rajim! How can we when we don�t even know our own position with Allah. All we are doing is conveying Allah�s Message from the authentic sources. I don�t understand how you can accuse us for something that Allah Subhanahu wa Ta�ala is Saying.

Alhamdulillah! This time around the disagreement was not between You and me. Alhamdulillah!

May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta�ala always keep us on His Siratul-Mustaqeem Ameen!

Wa Alaikum Salam

Bismillah,

Salaamu Alaykum, Flower!  The salient point to know and for us all to know is that Muslims, Believers, come in many different sizes, shapes, colors, attitudes, theological bases and stages in our lives.  If you are tired of discussion of the same thing repeatedly, we all get groggy and dizzy from such things at times.  There are many groups for literalists as you are out there.  I am searching for a group also where I could discuss things with fellow Muslims on the basis of similar beliefs.  I fear that we are too small in number to differentiate in this way.  Also, if we avoid each other, how will we come to understand and respect each other?

Peace