How is Jesus Both God and Human?

looks like my question isn't going to be answered here. Tawhid you obviously do not understand the nature of my question sad to say. We talk of God's humility yet the question remains how is Jesus both human and God?

Was Jesus god?

Well let me remove some of the misconceptions amongst my Christian and Muslim brothers. The most common phrases we hear are : 

Can God do everything?  Answer is Yes.

Can God create anything? Answer is Yes.  

Can God destroy everything?  Answer is Yes.

Can God create a thing which he can�t destroy??? And we are trapped.

A very simple answer I will give to all these phrases is that refer to Quran. And I found that nowhere it is written that God can do everything. Its written that God do what all he intends to do. So:

God can�t do everything. He does not do un-Godly acts. Like God can�t tell lie. God can�t throw me out of His domain (every place is His domain). He can�t do injustice and he can�t take human form.

Well certainly if He intends He can create the heaviest stone and when He intends He can destroy it. But performing any un-Godly act will not qualify for Him as God. Like if He takes Human form He ceases to be a God, he is a human then because it is not an attribute of God. If He lies, He is not a God then because its none of the attributes of God. If he do injustice He ceases to be a God because God�s attribute is Just.

Therefore God do not and can not and do not perform un-Godly acts. These are against His dignity and greatness and we have to be very careful attributing certain actions towards Him.

No where in Bible it is written that Jesus was God and those who have translated him as son, they have done a great error and blunder. See for yourself what Bible says in :

Isaiah Ch-45, verses 21-23, �Tell ye, and bring them near, yea, let them take counsel together, who has declared this from ancient time? Who has told this from that time? Have not I the Lord? And there is no God else beside Me O Look unto me and be ye saved all the ends of the earth, and there is none else O I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness and shall not return That unto me every knee shall bow and every tongue shall swear O�. 

Also see Isaiah Ch-45, verse 5, 6, 14 and 18. Timothy 1 Ch-1 verse 17, Exodus Ch 20 verse 3, �Thou shalt have no other gods beside me� and Exodus Ch 23, verse 24-25.

 Moreover, what John Ch 3, verse 16 and 17 say is completely blasphemous. What is the meaning of word begotten? And we all know in which meaning it is used.

While the verse 30 in John Ch 10 is read out of context. Please read verses 24 - 29 where it becomes clear that Jesus said to Jews that as they do not follow his instructions therefore they are not amongst his sheep (followers) and his sheep follow him and listen to him. And God gave him these instructions and whatever he tells to people are in fact instructions of God. To follow Jesus means to follow God and there he uses this verse that �I and my father are one� verse 30.

Well if it has to be taken in literal meaning that he actually meant that he and his father are actually one in physical terms then it should be taken in literal terms that he was not speaking to Jews but to batch of sheep.

Quran define attributes of God in shortest possible and absolute clear terms in Sura Ikhlas 112, �Say: He, Allah, is One (and alone) o Allah is (eternal) on Whom all are dependant o He begets not, nor is He begotten o And there is nothing like Himo�

The word used for Allah (God) in Arabic is �Aahad� which means alone and one. Like I as a personality am one, but for me in Arabic �Wahid� will be used, this means one but still in composite numbers (other humans). But �Aahad� means one and alone who has nothing and no one alike. So this solves the problem. Therefore Jesus was a great Messenger of Allah like other prophets and neither was he son or god himself.             

Regarding Quran was compiled 20 years after Muhammad�s (MPBUH) death, who told you that? Indeed it is news for all those Muslims who have read Islamic History. Well sir Quran was compiled almost two years before the death of Prophet Muhammad. The sequence of Surahs or chapters was told by the Prophet and it was placed in the room of Lady Aysha (wife of Holy Prophet and daughter of first caliph Abu-Bakar). This happened in 9^th year after Hijrat or Exodus from Makkah. The Quran was in proper written form but on palm leaves, piece of cloths etc in a bag. Prophet died in 11^th year after exodus and there were some problems in the Islamic state outskirts. In one battle War of Yamama some 70 hufaz (who had memorized Quran by heart) died in one day so there was a need to re-write Quran on one medium in one binding.

During the first few years of the first Caliph Quran was written on one medium, binded and placed with Lady Aysha. Later once Islam was spreading in the times of Caliph Usman (the 3^rd Caliph) it was felt to fix the writing font of Quran as there were reports that at some places people are reciting Quran with changed spellings. Like if you are in United States, you may find wrong spellings in British English so you will correct them. But once French would pronounce it he will change the pronunciation as well. In Arabic this would amount to changing the meaning altogether. So to avoid the pronunciation error by non-Arabs its Arabic text was re-fixed and all other copies with other fonts/text were destroyed. So the Quran of to days is the ditto copy of the Quran revealed on Muhammad 1400 years ago.       

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As'Salaamu Alaikum

In no way I'm defending Christian theology when it comes to the divinity of Christ, but Shams certain things you have mentioned can be refuted and even be contradictory see the following:

Can God do everything?  Answer is Yes.

Can God create anything? Answer is Yes.  

Can God destroy everything?  Answer is Yes.

Can God create a thing which he can�t destroy??? And we are trapped.

Let us take the first three examples:

Can God do anything? Yes

Can God create anything? Yes

Can God destroy everything? Yes

Since using this for the sake of God's attributes I will comment on this. In the first example since God can do everything (or anything) then its quite possible for God create a rock that he cannot lift, no? The argument however is illogical since we have no true concept of God's power except through doctrinal understanding and through the sciences of nature. With these limitations we can only infur what God can do. Since God is God believers will not use "can't" in respect with God's attributes since we believe God can do anything, fallibility in this would result in God being fallible.

Since its possible for God to create anything then its quite possible for God to create a human form for himself and to ascend from a higher state into a lower state as Christian theology implies. It's also possible for God to become limited in time (since we believe he can do anything, and since anything implies no limit we can also see the paradox in God being able to limit his limitedless being in time).

Its very possible for God to destroy everything since the first example implying God's limitless ability to do anything thus encompassing the ability to annihilate everything. But in conclusion arguing the subject of how Jesus is God and using this example does not do the Islamic understanding of God any justice. This only leaves what you said open for those who are opposite of Islamic belief to criticize what you said. In this the Christian theologian has won....