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Originally posted by asep48garut60 asep48garut60 wrote:


...Allah lifted him) meaning that Jesus was appointed by Allah to be saved from murder conspiracy.
Why did Allah appoint him to be saved from crucifixion?
How is that the best of plans or how is it a better plan then Jesus came and died to take the punishment of our sins; so, he can reconcile God's creation back to himself. The first Adam brought death and the last Adam (Jesus)brings life

Jesus predicted his own death twice in Matthew 17; BTW, that is where the original story of Jesus' virgin birth was found. All other sources are secondary to the gospel.

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Likewise, Asep. When we politely discuss religion with mutual humility, we praise God and honor each other.
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yes David, I agree with you.

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Being polite and discussion with humility is a good thing, but when we speak truth it will sometimes if not always come across as rude to those in deception. The Scriptures state that faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of the enemy are deceitful. Jesus said, "Beware when all men speak well of you." Jesus came across as rude, arrogant and proud many times to the religions rulers and unbelievers, but He was a righteous faithful witness and the perfect example to follow.

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Originally posted by Saved Saved wrote:

Originally posted by asep48garut60 asep48garut60 wrote:


The Gospel is the good news that because of Jesus all mankind can have eternal life. This means everyone, including Muslims.
The gospel is the good news, but not everyone will benefit from it.
Originally posted by asep48garut60 asep48garut60 wrote:


The Gospel is the good news that Jesus opened up new dimensions in the relationship between God and mankind...


Dear Saved,

I didn't write like the above sentence, that is from David C. Thanks.

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Originally posted by Saved Saved wrote:

Being polite and discussion with humility is a good thing, but when we speak truth it will sometimes if not always come across as rude to those in deception. The Scriptures state that faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of the enemy are deceitful. Jesus said, "Beware when all men speak well of you." Jesus came across as rude, arrogant and proud many times to the religions rulers and unbelievers, but He was a righteous faithful witness and the perfect example to follow.

Dear Saved,

Yes, you are right, but for me is more than that, my attitude should still be polite to anyone although I am explaining about the truth. (Quran 16:125)

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Originally posted by asep48garut60 asep48garut60 wrote:


Dear Saved,

Yes, you are right, but for me is more than that, my attitude should still be polite to anyone although I am explaining about the truth. (Quran 16:125)

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Dear Asep:

Yes, you see to me honestly this appears to be another imperfect borrowing of the Scripture that came before along with the virgin birth of Jesus and that God sends deception that unbelievers might continue to believe lies over truth.

FYI, with all due respect, the gospel states that we owe not only to be polite but our love to all people; in fact, we are to love even our enemies.

The next verse in the Quran 16; 126 is just another way of saying an eye for an eye and tooth for tooth which is first and original to the Scripture that came before.

Jesus tells us in so many ways doing to people the evil they do to you will only make the world blind and lame. We are to love our enemies and pray for those that use and abuse us. There is no other better way; that is the truth that trumps falsehood.

It is written beware, lest you also be found to be fighting against God. Acts 5:39

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Dear Saved,

I agree with you that we should love our enemies and pray for those who use and abuse us.
Allah said in the Quran 28:77

"And do good to mankind as Allah has been good to you. And do not do mischief on earth, Allah does not like those who do mischief. "

I don't dare to oppose Allah, even I only fear to Allah.

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