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Logic should tell you that you can't be burned by a vacuum.� A vacuum is nothing, and you can't be burned by nothing.� And the thermosphere, for all it's theoretically high temperature, is essentially a vacuum.


Read my lips! T-h-e-r-m-o-s-p-h-e-r-e is not part of the vacuum of space but part of the Earth's atmosphere (supposedly).

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Of course they had protection.� They had heat shields for re-entry; but mostly they needed heaters and insulation to keep them warm -- even in the thermosphere.� As the Wikipedia article pointed out, an ordinary thermometer would register well below zero in the thermosphere, because it would be losing more heat through radiation than it would gain by conduction.


No actually the temperature fluctuates. (Apparently).

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The whole world is laughing at the flat-earthers, but that doesn't seem to be stopping you.�[IMG]smileys/smiley36.gif" align="absmiddle" alt="LOL" />



Yes indeed ingnorants like you keep laughing but the LAST laugh will be on you.
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Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

Read my lips! T-h-e-r-m-o-s-p-h-e-r-e is not part of the vacuum of space but part of the Earth's atmosphere (supposedly).

Yeah, supposedly.  Except that even at its thickest (at 85 km), the density of that "atmosphere" is about 176,000 times thinner than at sea level.  In other words, it's at least 176,000 times more like a vacuum than like the air that you are familiar with.  (For the record, the density figure is based on the first chart at http://www.braeunig.us/space/atmos.htm.  I could explain the calculation but I doubt that you care.)

Quote No actually the temperature fluctuates. (Apparently).

Of course it does, but it's never "hot" in the conventional sense.  Wikipedia says it well in its Atmosphere of Earth article: "Even though the thermosphere has a very high proportion of molecules with immense amounts of energy, the thermosphere would not feel hot to a human in direct contact, because the low density in the thermosphere would not be able to conduct a significant amount of energy to or from the skin. In other words, a person would not feel warm because of the thermosphere's extremely low pressure."

Quote Yes indeed ingnorants like you keep laughing but the LAST laugh will be on you.

The point is there is no way such a vast global scientific conspiracy could be maintained.  Anyone who had inside knowledge of it could easily become incredibly rich and famous by going public with the evidence.  And they would not be deterred by the fear of initially being laughed at, any more than you are deterred by presenting your crackpot theory without any evidence at all.
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Originally posted by Ron Webb Ron Webb wrote:


Yeah, supposedly.� Except that even at its thickest (at 85 km), the density of that "atmosphere" is about 176,000 times thinner than at sea level.� In other words, it's at least 176,000 times more like a vacuum than like the air that you are familiar with.� (For the record, the density figure is based on the first chart at http://www.braeunig.us/space/atmos.htm.� I could explain the calculation but I doubt that you care.)


I wouldn't care about your calculations because they are all flawed. Just like the globe theory.

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Of course it does, but it's never "hot" in the conventional sense.� Wikipedia says it well in its Atmosphere of Earth article: "Even though the thermosphere has a very high proportion of molecules with immense amounts of energy, the thermosphere would not feel hot to a human in direct contact, because the low density in the thermosphere would not be able to conduct a significant amount of energy to or from the skin. In other words, a person would not feel warm because of the thermosphere's extremely low pressure."


As John McEnroe would say "you cannot be SERIOUS!".

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The point is there is no way such a vast global scientific conspiracy could be maintained.� Anyone who had inside knowledge of it could easily become incredibly rich and famous by going public with the evidence.� And they would not be deterred by the fear of initially being laughed at, any more than you are deterred by presenting your crackpot theory without any evidence at all.



You keep saying that but you don't realise the enormity of this thing. This conspiracy spans countries and continents and the whole world. It is very easy if you belong to an exclusive club, and all members are threatened with their lives if they falter.

Don't forget about the huge amount of money at stake.
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Get a telescope.

You will see the shadows cast by the mountains on the moon.


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Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

I wouldn't care about your calculations because they are all flawed. Just like the globe theory.

1.2250 / (6.95788x(10^-6)) = 176,000.  You can check it if you like.

Quote As John McEnroe would say "you cannot be SERIOUS!".

Absolutely!  Ain't science awesome? Thumbs%20Up

Quote You keep saying that but you don't realise the enormity of this thing. This conspiracy spans countries and continents and the whole world. It is very easy if you belong to an exclusive club, and all members are threatened with their lives if they falter.

No, I don't think you realize the enormity of it.  Hundreds of millions of people must be involved.  Not one of them is willing to speak up about it, even though it would be worth millions to them?  Not a single Edward Snowden or Bradley Manning leaks the crucial evidence, not even anonymously?  No deathbed confessions, no ghost-written tell-all books, not a single grad student who was invited to join the consipiracy and refused, no guilty consciences or honest reporters in the whole bunch?

Nothing stays that secret for that long among that many people.

Quote Don't forget about the huge amount of money at stake.

Don't you forget about it.  Most of the participants are low-level technicians or student interns, barely getting by.  The temptation to leak the story and reap the rewards would be irrestible for most.
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Abu,

Every single school boy who has a telescope and looks at the moon knows that it is a sphere.

If you did the same you would.

Why are you doing this? Why are you avoiding the real world?
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Originally posted by Tim the plumber Tim the plumber wrote:

Abu,Every single school boy who has a telescope and looks at the moon knows that it is a sphere. If you did the same you would. Why are you doing this? Why are you avoiding the real world?



On the contrary my dear Watson!

There are just as many people who will say that the Moon is a circular disc.
A silly telescope will never solve this problem. A telescope has only a certain range, and beyond that is all guess work.

You and a million other people are convinced that the Moon is a sphere whilst me and a million other people are convinced that the Moon is a disc.
Who dares wins.
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Folks,

AbuL is a hopeless case.
Talking to him about science is like trying to convince somebody that thinks that he's Napoleon that he isn't.

Same game, more of a case for the madhouse than anything else.


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Edited by airmano - 03 November 2015 at 12:59pm
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