REVELATION 12, THE UNIVERSAL PROPHET

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 ISAIAH 29
It begins: 
¹Woe to Ariel, to Ariel, the city where David dwelt! add ye year to year; let them kill sacrifices. 
God Almighty is talking about the city where David (S) dwelt that is in Jerusalem in future tense (add ye years to years), Jerusalem will be unto God Almighty as Ariel  and He described what will happen to Ariel: 
²Yet I will distress Ariel, and there shall be heaviness and sorrow: and it shall be unto me as Ariel. 
³And I will camp against thee round about, and will lay siege against thee with a mount, and I will raise forts against thee. 
⁴And thou shalt be brought down, and shalt speak out of the ground, and thy speech shall be low out of the dust, and thy voice shall be, as of one that hath a familiar spirit, out of the ground, and thy speech shall whisper out of the dust. (Isaiah 29:1-4) 
All those �thou and thee� supposed to referring to the �Jews� but the verse mentioned: 
�⁵Moreover the multitude of thy strangers shall be like small dust, and the multitude of the terrible ones shall be as chaff that passeth away: yea, it shall be at an instant suddenly.� (Isaiah 29:5)
There God Almighty is talking about two sets of people in Jerusalem One will be like dust and the other will be as chaff passeth away; that is the multitude of thy strangers and the multitude of the terrible ones. Who are the strangers and who are the terrible ones? Only one set of people were to be save (the strangers) who are they? God Almighty shall bring his wrath on the �multitude of the terrible ones�:
⁶Thou shalt be visited of the LORD of hosts with thunder, and with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the flame of devouring fire. (Isaiah 29:6)
I�ve repeat verse 5 to put the destruction in context: 
Then ��the multitude of thy strangers shall be like small dust, and the multitude of the terrible ones shall be as chaff that passeth away: yea, it shall be at an instant suddenly.V5
In other words, God Almighty will destroy the �multitude of the terrible ones� with flames of devouring fire, earthquake and storm; they will be as chaff that passed away in an instant suddenly and on the other hand, �thy strangers� will remain there being like small dust.
   Who are the terrible ones and who are thy strangers? Let us find out.
It mentioned in verse7 
�And the multitude of all the nations that fight against Ariel, even all that fight against her and her munition, and that distress her, shall be as a dream of a night vision.� V.7
If all nations will fight against Ariel then who is Ariel or what is Ariel? It says in verse1-2 
�Woe to Ariel, to Ariel, the city where David dwelt! add ye year to year; let them kill sacrifices. ²Yet I will distress Ariel, and there shall be heaviness and sorrow: and it shall be unto me as Ariel. V.1-2
God Almighty is talking about the city where David (S) dwelt that is in Jerusalem, it will be unto God Almighty as Ariel and God Almighty call Ariel �Her� in Verse 7: �⁷And the multitude of all the nations that fight against Ariel, even all that fight against her and her munition, and that distress her��
�Her� would have to be �thy stranger� and �Her� also refers to the �church� in the future tense. According to some Christian�s Scholars �woman� represents church and some says �woman� represents the Jewish�s nation and they were always addressed as �her�. Why in the Old Testament they were addresses as �her� was because the Church was with them. However, the woman represents the �church� and not the �Jewish nation!� I have already given a full explained in chapter 2.
Again if we look at Rev.12 verse 6 and14; and Rev.11 verse 4 both tied into each other and it reflects the meaning of the �WOMAN� as the Church. It mentioned:
�And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. (Rev. 12:6)   
�And to the woman were given two wings�that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place where she is nourished for a time, and time, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. (Rev. 12:14) 
And I will give power unto my two witnesses, And they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. (Rev.11:3-4)  
The evidence that the woman represents the church is that the woman was given �two wings� and fled into the wilderness for 1,260 days where the same period also reflect in Rev.11:4. Those �two wings� are the two witnesses, the two olive trees and two candles stick; and the Candlesticks represent churches: 
��the seven candlestick which thou sawest are seven churches.� (Rev. 1:20)
So, we can conclude that the �woman� represents the �Church� 
Also if we go to Revelation 19 and read verse 7-9 we would recognize that the woman represents the church. It mentioned: 
�Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honor to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of the saint.� (Rev. 19:7-8)
The saints that mentioned in Revelation 19:7-8 are the believers and they came from �her and she� which is referring to the �church� when the church would have well established for the coming of the Messiah. So we can see from that proof the �woman� represents the �Church� and not the Jewish�s nation. 

Now, the �multitude of the terrible ones� was described as �all Nations� who would be fight against the �church in the future� then God Almighty will destroy them with flames of devouring fire, earthquake and storm; when the destruction will come upon them verse 7- 8 mentioned the state in which they will be in: 
�And the multitude of all the nations that fight against Ariel� shall be as a dream of a night vision. ⁸It shall even be as when an hungry man dreameth, and, behold, he eateth; but he awaketh, and his soul is empty: or as when a thirsty man dreameth, and, behold, he drinketh; but he awaketh, and, behold, he is faint, and his soul hath appetite: so shall the multitude of all the nations be, that fight against mount Zion.� V. 7-8 
You see it mentioned mount Zion that would be new mount Zion. This whole night vision would become a book that is seal, and it would be then given to an illiterate person and the church will be with his followers who will be like strangers in Jerusalem in the future. When all nations would fight against them suddenly the final destruction will come upon them. 
V6Thou shalt be visited of the LORD of hosts with thunder, and with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the flame of devouring fire. 
And the vision of all is become unto you as a word of a book that is SEALED, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed. Isaiah.29: 11 (KJV)
12And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, read this I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. (Isaiah 29:12 KJV)

   What is important to note here is the Devil recognize that Muhammad (s) fulfilled that prophecy so they (Devils) move in and retranslates it to change the meaning; the change �and� to �or if� to make it look as if it is a suggestion in the NIV translation, let�s check out it reads:
¹¹For you this whole vision is nothing but words sealed in a scroll. And if you give the scroll to someone who can read, and say, �Read this, please,� they will answer, �I can�t; it is sealed.� ¹²Or if you give the scroll to someone who cannot read, and say, �Read this, please,� they will answer, �I don�t know how to read.�

  History recorded that Muhammad (s) used to go up mountain cave, called Ghar-Hera, in Arabia (Mt. Paran) to meditate. While he was there an angel, later identified as Gabriel, commanded him saying: �read� and he respond by saying: �I am not learned,� the angel repeat the act three times, then Muhammad (S) began to repeat the command of the angel which became the first five verse of surah 96, Al-Alaq, of the Qur�an.  
Read: In the name of thy Lord who created. Created man from a clot. Read: and thy Lord is the Most Bounteous, Who taught by the pen, Taught man which he knew not. (Q. 96:1-5)
 Allah conform it in the Quran: 
Those who fallow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mention in their own (Scriptures), In the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel). (Q. 7:157). 
   Torah: Isaiah29:12 and Gospel: John 16:13 ��for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear� [from angel Gabriel (S)]. 
And thou (O Muhammad) was not (able) to recite a book before this (book came), nor art thou (able) to transcribe it with thy right hand: in that case indeed, would the talkers of vanity have doubted. (Q.29:48)
Nor does he say (aught) of (his own) desire. It is no less than inspiration sent down to him. He was taught by one mighty in power. (Q. 53:3-5)
Br. ainool

Isaiah 29:12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
 13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
 14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.
 15 Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the Lord, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us?
 16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter�s clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?

Here Isaiah said, is it not yet a very little while so it was in very little while there Isaiah has already refuted your so called prophecy of Muhammad.
 17 Is it not yet a very little while, and Lebanon shall be turned into a fruitful field, and the fruitful field shall be esteemed as a forest?
 18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.

Here Isaiah said men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Isreal then who is tthe Holy One of Isreal? 
 19 The meek also shall increase their joy in the Lord, and the poor among men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel.
20 For the terrible one is brought to nought, and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch for iniquity are cut off:
 21 That make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought.
 22 Therefore thus saith the Lord, who redeemed Abraham, concerning the house of Jacob, Jacob shall not now be ashamed, neither shall his face now wax pale.
 23 But when he seeth his children, the work of mine hands, in the midst of him, they shall sanctify my name, and sanctify the Holy One of Jacob, and shall fear the God of Israel.(Who is the Holy one Jacob? hmmmm certainly not Muhammad.)
 24 They also that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that murmured shall learn doctrine.

What do you mean by this? the sealed scroll was completed ,and the Quran was writen 150 years after Muhammad passed away so it was not a sealed scroll everybody could read it  so whats the point?

What is important to note here is the Devil recognize that Muhammad (s) fulfilled that prophecy so they (Devils) move in and retranslates it to change the meaning; the change �and� to �or if� to make it look as if it is a suggestion in the NIV translation, let�s check out it reads:
¹¹For you this whole vision is nothing but words sealed in a scroll. And if you give the scroll to someone who can read, and say, �Read this, please,� they will answer, �I can�t; it is sealed.� ¹²Or if you give the scroll to someone who cannot read, and say, �Read this, please,� they will answer, �I don�t know how to read.�

  History recorded that Muhammad (s) used to go up mountain cave, called Ghar-Hera, in Arabia (Mt. Paran) to meditate. While he was there an angel, later identified as Gabriel, commanded him saying: �read� and he respond by saying: �I am not learned,� the angel repeat the act three times, then Muhammad (S) began to repeat the command of the angel which became the first five verse of surah 96, Al-Alaq, of the Qur�an.
Lets make your statement clear have you studied geography do you know where is the location of Mount Paran? 

The second problem is of course that (the Wilderness of) Paran in the Bible is not Arabia. The traditional view is that Paran is in the Sinai Peninsula, starting at Kadesh Barnea, which is south of Israel. Consider the following: 
Hadad the Edomite, during the reign of Solomon, escaped to Egypt when he was a boy (1 Kings 11:17). "They set out from Midian and went to Paran. Then taking men from Paran with them, they went to Egypt..." (1 Kings 11:8-19). To think that Hadad set out from Midian (which is south east (SE) of Israel, near the Sinai in the Arabian Peninsula, go up north east east (NEE) to "Paran" (Mecca), then somehow end up in Egypt (south west of Mecca) is unthinkable. 
The Israelites left Sinai (after receiving the Law) for the Desert of Paran (Numbers 10:12), on the way passing through Kibroth Hattavah (Numbers 11:34), Hazeroth (Numbers 12:16), and settling at Kadesh [Barnea] of Paran (Numbers 13:26), which is the northern part of the desert. From Paran, spies were sent to Canaan to check out the land (Numbers 13:3). The spies' exploration took them from Paran through the Desert of Zin (south of Israel), Rehob, Lebo Hamath, Negev, Hebron (Numbers 13:21-22). The southern boundary of the Israelite promised land is given as "Your southern side will include some of the Desert of Zin along the border of Edom. On the east, your southern boundary wll start from the end of the Salt Sea [i.e. Dead Sea], cross south of the Scorpion Pass, continue on to Zin and go south of Kadesh Barnea. Then it will go to Hazar Addar and over to Azmon, where it will turn, join the Wadi of Egypt and end at the Sea [i.e.,Mediterranean]" (Numbers 34:3-5). Zin and Kadesh are clearly to the south of Israel, so to demand that Paran is on the east of Israel requires an impossible boundary. 