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herjihad
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Bismillah, Eed Mubarak! Eed Saeed! Happy Eed! I think it is completely appropriate for you, Jenni, to come to an Islamic DISCUSSION board to tell people how you feel. Please don't stop. Now, if we aren't meaning to insult each other, intentions count a lot in our faith, right? But on the other hand, if someone says that they feel insulted by a fellow Muslim, then that person would benefit their soul if they tried to repair such insult rather than say: Tell where I insulted you. We are trying to discuss important issues to us, vent our feelings of frustration, develop relationships with our fellow Muslims and others who come here interested and respectful to our faith. Rami, your Sister in Islaam has asked you how to find that article. Do you know how? Can you help her as she asked you to? It was on IslamiCity after all, and you are a moderator. So maybe she is assuming you have experience with searching for an old article that was posted here. Please look for it and post it or tell us how to do it. Shukran. Gracias. Thanks. Edited by herjihad |
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Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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Jenni
Senior Member Joined: 10 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 705 |
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Rami, on Islamicitys home page I clicked on newsroom above the list of new articles. On that I entered a search under title section and typed in Malaysia. The article came up Islam a hot topic in Malaysia. Could someone provide a link as I don't know how to do that. Thanks!
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You cant be a good muslim if you are not decent and have a cold heart. Be a decent and kind person and care for women and children and the elderly.
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rami
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Herjihad I thought i read in one of your posts something to the effect of the (shariah?) laws are wrong simply becouse they were developed by men, i cant find that comment so i have to assume i misread what you said. If that is the case i am sorry i said you hate men. I have nothing to do with Islamicity site excpet for being a moderator, i am not a member so i dont know anything about the main site. i found the article by doing a google search on the title she gave. http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=31637 i would not trust anything this article says. For starters the issues it raises and the examples it gives are not new even though a person would assume so reading this article. It is strictly prohibited in islam to touch the wealth of a women espetialy from a previous marriage or the dowry of the wife, so freezing her assets as such is a violation this. Edited by rami |
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Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.
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Angela
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Rami, That is all fine and good. But this is the exact wording of the article. Since the 1980s, they say, women's position vis-�-vis Muslim men have gradually eroded. The latest is a new Islamic family law that makes divorce and polygamy easy and allows husbands to lay claim to the wife's properties, even to the extent of freezing the bank accounts of former spouses and their children. Obviously, this is not Islamic law. This is what Jenni is yelling about. Shariah courts are enforcing laws that are UN-Islamic. These are the Laws of Men, not the Laws of God. |
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Jenni
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Angela, thank you!! Somebody actually gets it! I wish Rami would too. It upsets me when people never accept resposibility for the wrongness done in the name of Islam. As an American I am allways ready to point out the many problems of this morally bankrupt society and also to point out the good things about America as well. People need to be realistic, not just defend thier Muslim brothers because they are Muslim. And when they are wronging someone, they should speak out against it!!peace
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You cant be a good muslim if you are not decent and have a cold heart. Be a decent and kind person and care for women and children and the elderly.
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rami
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And this is nothing but typical american gunhoe atitude, shoot your mouth of first ask questions later. The article makes claims of these issues being recent, they are not i have heard this beffore a few years ago, word for word with the convert story. Jenni you and others were the first to claim this is shariah then later you restricted your meaning of shariah and now you are saying it is not shariah. I am outraged at the move by the Maylasian government to implement Sharia law that is interpreted by corrupt men to opress women.....Sharia usually means women get the worst treatment and thier rights are not protected. Hence my reply to that post that your terminology is wrong. |
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Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.
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Jenni
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Rami, I said they are saying it is Sharia. The men who would pass these laws and call themselves sheiks say it is Sharia. Shouldn't they know more than me a convert that doesn't speak hardly a word of Arabic? So if they say it is Sharia, they beleive it is and that is the problem. And people that don't have as much knowledge don't know what to beleive. I then said that I don't think it is Sharia because I don't Think Allah would have wanted the opression of women so I don't beleive it to be true. However, the fact that some men use the name Sharia to make rude and archaic laws is true and people need to admit that and do something about it. Peace
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You cant be a good muslim if you are not decent and have a cold heart. Be a decent and kind person and care for women and children and the elderly.
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rami
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Sister alhamdulillah you have clarified your position but your original post was not clear, please take care in your wording of things. i would also advise not believing every article you read espetialy written by people who have something against our faith they usualy are biased in there reporting of events. i suspect the people of islamicity did not read the article carefully beffore posting but just posted it becouse of the title which seemed Islamic, allahu alam. |
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Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.
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