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Originally posted by Muslim75 Muslim75 wrote:

Meanwhile here are parts of another Hadith. Not the same, but still (Hadith of Tirmidhi among others).
 
Ubay Ibne Ka'ab Radhiyallahu Anhu Reports That Ubayy said: ya rasulallāh innī ukthiru al-salāta `alayka fa kam aj`al laka min salātī "O Messenger of Allah, I make much salawat upon you as a habit. How much of my prayer should I devote to you?"
The Prophet said: "As much as you like."
Ubayy said: "A quarter?"
The Prophet said: "As you like, but if you add to that it will be better for you."
Ubayy then mentioned a third, then a half, then two thirds, and always the Prophet answered: "As you like, but if you add to that it will be better for you."
Finally Ubayy said: yā rasulallāh innī urīdu an aj`ala salātī kullahā lak - "O Messenger of Allah, I want to devote my entire prayer (i.e. du`a) to you."
Whereupon the Prophet said: "Then you will be freed from care and your sins will be forgiven."


But this hadith was graded as weak:

http://sunnah.com/urn/677630

Furthermore, requesting blessings upon the Prophet from Allah (Glorified and Exalted be He) is different from over-praising him.  The hadith I mentioned about how the Prophet disliked that the Sahabah would stand up for him is mentioned in Tirmidhi, and it was graded sahih:

Narrated Anas: "There was no person more beloved to them than the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ)." [He said:] "And they would not stand when they saw him because they knew that he disliked that."

http://sunnah.com/urn/629720
Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)

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Originally posted by Muslim75 Muslim75 wrote:

That is the Ottoman Sultan you are talking about. The one whose name was mentioned in the khutbas every friday throughout the Muslim world. He would do things unislamic when the only law in the empire is the law of Islam. That is unlikely.


What difference does that make?  Does the fact that he was the Ottoman sultan change the fact that the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) told us not to over-praise him?  If the blessed Prophet prohibited his companions from even standing up in respect of him, then do you really think that he would approve of us crawling at his grave?   
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Originally posted by Muslim75 Muslim75 wrote:

Muhammad (saws), and this is a famous Hadith, once called a Sahaba to him. The Sahaba did not come because he was praying. When at last he came to Muhammad (saws), the latter rebuked him. He said he should have stopped his prayer and responded to him (saws).
 
What do you think the Kaaba points to ?


Which hadith is this?  Can you provide the reference?
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Originally posted by Muslim75 Muslim75 wrote:

The story reminds me of the Ottoman Sultans. When they would go to visit the prophet Muhammad (saws), when they arrived by his blessed grave, they did not walk. They were crawling. There was no way they would walk before Muhammad (saws). They would only crawl, and that was the sultan, crawling. On their mouths they carried some kind of rose, covered with ointments; so that when they crawl the rose would rub the floor and leave perfume on it. Respect of Muhammad (saws).


Well brother, considering that Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) did not allow people to even stand up for him when he walked into a room, I don't think he would have approved of this act by the Ottoman sultans.  As Muslims, we all love the Prophet, and that means that we obey his instructions.  He warned us not to over-praise him, yet this is exactly what some Muslims do. 
Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)

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