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Posted By: Muslim75
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Date Posted: 08 September 2014 at 6:11am

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Posted By: Abu Loren
Date Posted: 08 September 2014 at 7:04am

Rubbish!

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La Ilaha IllAllah

Posted By: Muslim75
Date Posted: 09 September 2014 at 12:55pm

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Posted By: Muslim75
Date Posted: 09 September 2014 at 1:00pm

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Posted By: islamispeace
Date Posted: 09 September 2014 at 1:34pm

Muslim75 wrote:

Jibril (the archangel Gabriel), the trustworthy messenger honors Muhammad (saws).

A famous Hadith mentions that one day as the Sahaba (the Companions of Muhammad) were sitting with the prophet, someone came in, out of nowhere. A man with strange appearance, his hairs were intensely black, and his clothes intensely white. He came in all the way to Muhammad (saws), and sat down before him, his knees touching the knees of Muhammad. He asked Muhammad a few questions, and Muhammad (saws) was replying to him. He was asking questions and Muhammad was replying. One of the questions Jibril asked is "Tell me about Ihsan (the state of excellence)". Muhammad(saws) replied: "It is to worship Allah as if you are seeing Him, for if you do not see Him, He sees you."

After the last question, and the reply of Muhammad (saws) Jibril got up to leave. What I am about to say is not mentioned in the Hadith. It is mentioned by Shaykh Muhammad Nazim Al Haqqani, Sultan Al Awliya. He was the world leader of the Naqshbandi Haqqani Sufi Order. He speaks from His saintly knowledge.

He says that Jibril was going back, but not turning his back on Muhammad (saws). He was walking backwards. He walked back, back, back, back and disappeared, never turning his back on Muhammad (saws).

Muhammad (saws) said to the Sahaba that this was Jibril, who came to teach them their religion.

The question is why didn't the Sahabah who narrated this hadith mention that Jibril (as) did not turn his back to the Prophet? Were they aware and just didn't mention it?

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Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)

Posted By: islamispeace
Date Posted: 09 September 2014 at 1:36pm

Muslim75 wrote:

The story reminds me of the Ottoman Sultans. When they would go to visit the prophet Muhammad (saws), when they arrived by his blessed grave, they did not walk. They were crawling. There was no way they would walk before Muhammad (saws). They would only crawl, and that was the sultan, crawling. On their mouths they carried some kind of rose, covered with ointments; so that when they crawl the rose would rub the floor and leave perfume on it. Respect of Muhammad (saws).

Well brother, considering that Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) did not allow people to even stand up for him when he walked into a room, I don't think he would have approved of this act by the Ottoman sultans. As Muslims, we all love the Prophet, and that means that we obey his instructions. He warned us not to over-praise him, yet this is exactly what some Muslims do.

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Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)

Posted By: Muslim75
Date Posted: 10 September 2014 at 5:47am

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Posted By: Muslim75
Date Posted: 10 September 2014 at 5:49am

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Posted By: islamispeace
Date Posted: 10 September 2014 at 8:18am

Muslim75 wrote:

Muhammad (saws), and this is a famous Hadith, once called a Sahaba to him. The Sahaba did not come because he was praying. When at last he came to Muhammad (saws), the latter rebuked him. He said he should have stopped his prayer and responded to him (saws).

What do you think the Kaaba points to ?

Which hadith is this? Can you provide the reference?

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Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)

Posted By: islamispeace
Date Posted: 10 September 2014 at 8:21am

Muslim75 wrote:

That is the Ottoman Sultan you are talking about. The one whose name was mentioned in the khutbas every friday throughout the Muslim world. He would do things unislamic when the only law in the empire is the law of Islam. That is unlikely.

What difference does that make? Does the fact that he was the Ottoman sultan change the fact that the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) told us not to over-praise him? If the blessed Prophet prohibited his companions from even standing up in respect of him, then do you really think that he would approve of us crawling at his grave?

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Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)

Posted By: Muslim75
Date Posted: 10 September 2014 at 2:03pm

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Posted By: Muslim75
Date Posted: 10 September 2014 at 2:42pm

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Posted By: islamispeace
Date Posted: 10 September 2014 at 3:07pm

Muslim75 wrote:

Meanwhile here are parts of another Hadith. Not the same, but still (Hadith of Tirmidhi among others).

Ubay Ibne Ka'ab Radhiyallahu Anhu Reports That Ubayy said: ya rasulallāh innī ukthiru al-salāta `alayka fa kam aj`al laka min salātī "O Messenger of Allah, I make much salawat upon you as a habit. How much of my prayer should I devote to you?"
The Prophet said: "As much as you like."
Ubayy said: "A quarter?"
The Prophet said: "As you like, but if you add to that it will be better for you."
Ubayy then mentioned a third, then a half, then two thirds, and always the Prophet answered: "As you like, but if you add to that it will be better for you."
Finally Ubayy said: yā rasulallāh innī urīdu an aj`ala salātī kullahā lak - "O Messenger of Allah, I want to devote my entire prayer (i.e. du`a) to you."
Whereupon the Prophet said: "Then you will be freed from care and your sins will be forgiven."

But this hadith was graded as weak:

http://sunnah.com/urn/677630 - http://sunnah.com/urn/677630

Furthermore, requesting blessings upon the Prophet from Allah (Glorified and Exalted be He) is different from over-praising him. The hadith I mentioned about how the Prophet disliked that the Sahabah would stand up for him is mentioned in Tirmidhi, and it was graded sahih:

Narrated Anas: "There was no person more beloved to them than the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ)." [He said:] "And they would not stand when they saw him because they knew that he disliked that."

http://sunnah.com/urn/629720 - http://sunnah.com/urn/629720

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Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)

Posted By: Muslim75
Date Posted: 11 September 2014 at 1:00am

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http://sunnah.com/urn/62370 -

Posted By: Muslim75
Date Posted: 11 September 2014 at 1:04am

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Posted By: islamispeace
Date Posted: 11 September 2014 at 6:40am

Muslim75 wrote:

Graded weak by Darussalam.

I will look into it Inshallah Ta'ala. Meanwhile here is another Hadith. Still not the same, but still:

http://sunnah.com/urn/62370 - http://sunnah.com/urn/62370

Yes, this is an excellent hadith and it reminds us that iman is not complete unless we love the Prophet more than we love ourselves. However, this still does not mean that we can over-praise him, because he specifically warned us against it. The hadith I mentioned previously shows how important this teaching is, since even though the Sahabah loved the Prophet dearly, they would not stand up for him because they knew that he disliked such a practice. So how much more so would he dislike it when some Muslim crawl at his grave?

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Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)

Posted By: islamispeace
Date Posted: 11 September 2014 at 6:42am

Muslim75 wrote:

Abu Bakr said "Honor Muhammad by honoring the members of his family."

Hadith 347 in Riyadh Salihin.

Another beautiful hadith, but it also does not excuse the extreme acts of devotion that some Muslims indulge in. The Sahabah would not have done such things. We can honor the Prophet and his family by loving and respecting them, but not by over-praising them.

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Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)

Posted By: Muslim75
Date Posted: 12 September 2014 at 12:32am

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Posted By: islamispeace
Date Posted: 12 September 2014 at 6:55am

Muslim75 wrote:

"Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect." (Surah 33, V 56)

Allah and His angels do this all the time, non-stop. As to humans, in this case, no show of respect to Muhammad, peace be upon him and his family is enough.

Umar, Amir Al Muminin use to give to Usama more than he gave to his own son, Abdullah. He said to Abdullah (more or less): Muhammad loved your father more than he loved me.

Again, I am not denying that we should send blessings on the Prophet. That's why we recite Durood Sharif during the prayer.

This is what Allah (Glorified and Exalted be He) said in the Holy Quran:

"Muhammad is no more than a messenger: many Were the messenger that passed away before him. If he died or were slain, will ye then turn back on your heels? If any did turn back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allah; but Allah (on the other hand) will swiftly reward those who (serve Him) with gratitude" (Al-Imran, 3:144).

And this is what the Prophet himself said:

"Narrated `Umar:

I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying, "Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians praised the son of Mary, for I am only a Slave. So, call me the Slave of Allah and His Apostle.""
http://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/115 -
sunnah.com/bukhari/60/115

Those who exaggerate in praising the Prophet are in fact disobeying him. How can you love someone when you don't obey them?

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Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)

Posted By: Muslim75
Date Posted: 25 September 2014 at 5:39am

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Posted By: Muslim75
Date Posted: 25 September 2014 at 5:51am

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