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As a Christian I believe those who deny Jesus' divinity and crucifixion and resurrection and teachings will go to hell, but it doesn't mean I hate non-Christians or want any of you to be harmed. I would gladly take a bullet for you, like I took a pipe to the face four years ago and inhaled a lot of teargas this summer for standing in solidarity with Palestinian mostly Muslims, along with my fellow ISMer mostly atheist friends. 
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Originally posted by schmikbob schmikbob wrote:

Logic is reasonable by definition Abu Loren. Your so called logic is the exact same logic that murderers throughout history have used to justify their crimes. It's not a big step from saying that it's better for Christians to be dead to helping them get that way. Now would be a good time for moderate followers of Islam to step in and tell Abu Loren that he's joined the fringe, unless of course it's not the fringe.


Isn't it amazing how the English language could not be understood by people whose mother tongue is English? Amazing.

All I said was that Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala said in the Qur'an that those who claim that Allah has taken a son are better off dead than living. Meaning that their lives are worthless in the sight of Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala and it is not a command for Muslims to go out and kill ALL those who claim that Allah has taken a son.

That statement is so severe and serious that the earth and the sky are ready to rupture.
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Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:


BTW I used to hate Islam and Muslims because growing up as a Roman Catholic one is 'taught' to hate them from the beginning.

Greetings Abu Loren,

Tell me again... where were you brought up?

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Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:


Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

BTW I used to hate Islam and Muslims because growing up as a Roman Catholic one is 'taught' to hate them from the beginning.

Greetings Abu Loren,Tell me again... where were you brought up?Thanks.CH


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Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

Originally posted by marcello marcello wrote:



Yes, you shouldn't be troubled with facts, since they conflict with your belief in fables. Your "basic concept" of evolution is totally incorrect. It is no coincidence the more scientific education one has, the less likely one is to be religious.




No it's just that I find evolution to be complete nonsense.


Originally posted by marcello marcello wrote:


The repetitive verses of intolerance in the Quran mean exactly what they say. And many of your co-religionists use them daily to justify the murders of so-called infidels. Of course, you would call the people who believe in the literal word of the Quran "un-Islamic", and they would, in turn, call you an "infidel". Perhaps you should travel to Syria and try to convince them how their understanding of the Quran is misguided? Or would you prefer to rely on American bombs to do that?


This is a classic example of a person who do not understand the Qur'an.
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Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:


Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

BTW I used to hate Islam and Muslims because growing up as a Roman Catholic one is 'taught' to hate them from the beginning.

Greetings Abu Loren,Tell me again... where were you brought up?Thanks.CH


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Greetings Abu Loren,

So I'm thinking you are actually referring to the Anglican church.

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