The REAL Intended Sacrifice of Prophet Ibrahim |
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Webber
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Looks more like it's pointing out more conjectures of the Muslims. You are pointing out what the Quran does not say and insisting it proves the Bible wrong. That would be like saying the Bible is wrong because it does not approve of eating camels.
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Abu Loren
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Are you an eediot? Where did you get that from? Let me repeat the Shahada again to you and READ and UNDERSTAND. "I declare that there is no deity other than Allah and that Muhammad is His slave and messenger". Who told you that they have to 'believe' in Muhammad? Believing in him means that one has to believe in the revelation that was given to him, not believe in him as a partner to God as you believe Jesus (Alayhi Salaam) to be.
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""there is no man more dangerous than one who thinks he knows the will of God" [/QUOTE] Read what I've replied to Mr. Reepicheep. Everyting I've said is backed up by the Holy Qur'an. In it all disbelievers in Him will go to Hell. Those who associate partners to Him is a great sin as what you believe is.
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Caringheart
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Greetings Abu_Loren, but it's not enough to declare belief in God is it? You must also declare Muhammad is His messenger. God by Himself isn't enough. believe - declare - what's the difference? semantics Regarding the rest, I know what your qur'an says. Doesn't make it right, good, and true. Salaam, CH Edited by Caringheart - 13 February 2013 at 10:03pm |
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Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
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Abu Loren
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What is wrong with believing and/or declaring that Muhammad is God's slave and messenger? He always stressed that he was only a human being and not to put him on a pedastal nor worship him. Have you ever thought that the Shahada is structured in that way so that the believer can distinguish form Who God is and who Muhammad is? Your prejudice is unbelievable. Your heart is filled with so much hate. Why?
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Abu Loren
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Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala tells us that He has given human beings intellect, logic, reasoning etc and I choose to excercise it. It makes no sense when Prophet Ibrahim was given Prophet Ishmael in old age that he would have to wait until Prophet Isaac was born for the sacrifice. Can you imagine this scenario? After being given a son in old age he is being asked to sacrifice that child. Hoe would you feel? Would you be upset? Would you think of disobeying God? As I've said before if it was Prophet Isaac who was to be sacrificed then you can imagine Prophet Ibrahim not hesitating because he has Ishmael. Do you understand this?
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Caringheart
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Greetings Abu_Loren, "Your heart is filled with so much hate. Why?" Sorry, that made me laugh. No hate. Where do you come up with hate? I do wonder at such a statement. I am taking into consideration the rest of what you say. Is it possible to claim God without claiming Muhammad? and if not, why not? Thanks, CH |
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Reepicheep
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Abu Loren: As I've said before if it was Prophet Isaac who was to be sacrificed then you can imagine Prophet Ibrahim not hesitating because he has Ishmael. Do you understand this?
According to numerous hadith, Mohammad said it was Isaac who was to be sacrificed. I assume, then, that you are accusing Mohammad of being a liar and a false prophet?
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Abu Loren
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Christians are so good at twisting people's words that they have made it into an art.
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