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Mahdi The Seeke
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Mahdi The Seeke
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It is easy to lie about something that is not verifiable. Can you produce those people who heard the voice from the cloud? Its like a guy lyi |
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Mahdi The Seeke
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It is easy to lie about something that is not verifiable. Can you produce those people who heard the voice from the cloud? You have to take the word of the gospel writer for it. Since the Gospels were written many years after the events they report, lies or exaggerations could have been added. Besides, you are going off topic |
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Friendship
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Assalamu alaika Mahdi.
Jesus never lied. If Matthew 16:27-28 is in red letter, then it is the true word of Jesus. I have not seen my King James version that differentiated the speech of Jesus in red and others in black. I feel as if it should be in red print because there is close resemblance to Qur'an. Friendship |
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Experiential
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Verse 27 is referring to his return as Jesus the Mesiah to judge the world at the last days and Verse 28 is him referring to some of them not dying until they see his kingdom expanding leading up to and after his resurection ?
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Mahdi The Seeke
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Where is the word 'expanding' in the verses? It says some of them will not die until they Jesus coming in his kingdom aka second coming i.e with angels to pass judgement. They are all dead yet still no sign of Jesus. |
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Experiential
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Jesus often said his Kingdom is expanding, for example in Luke 13:18 � Then Jesus asked, "What is the And in Luke 13:20 Again he asked, "What shall I compare the
Mathew 16 Verse 27 is talking about the second coming. But verse 28 is talking about his expanding, unfolding and coming power while they are still alive. If you read on you will read about his expanding and unfolding power in his transfiguration which is evidence of this and if you keep reading on to the end of the gospel it demonstrates his unfolding power all the way to the resurrection which many of them were witnesses to. Also if you cross reference to Mark 9.1 the break between him talking about his second coming and then later talking about his resurrection is more clearly defined. Edited by Experiential - 18 August 2012 at 9:27pm |
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Caringheart
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@Mahdi,
Did you see my reply? Jesus was with the Apostles for 40 days after His death and resurrection. They did see Him, and saw what His kingdom really meant. That is where the whole Word of Christ and the Christian message came from. Before they saw Him resurrected they did not understand that His kingdom was not of this earth. After the death and resurrection, and seeing Him again, they understood. They also experienced what Jesus had promised, and that was the coming of the comforter, the Holy Spirit which entered into them at Pentacost, and then they were able to go and do the miracles of Jesus. They saw Jesus ascend to His kingdom. Edited by Caringheart - 18 August 2012 at 10:18pm |
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