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well you might want to put some glasses on, cause it might get too bright for you.

Nothing can be too bright for a man of baseerat. You would never find me as dazed as yourself. I hold a clear vision. Touts can never claim that. 

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The link between Iraq and terrorism. Shot down you say?

If you do not know that I am talking about Iraq as a threat to your masters then either you are seriously imapred in intelligence or you are an outright cheat.

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"Nothing can be too bright for a man of baseerat. You would never find me as dazed as yourself. I hold a clear vision. Touts can never claim that."

I guess from this i should conclude that it is pointless to talk to you since you actually think you hold a clear vision. It must be because you are a leader of a group whom you have been teaching all this time with your ideas and views which they devoured like granma's home backed cookies because it was against the US and the west, yeah anger, wonderful to use to gain following but what then? and now you are stuck because if you change your views you will have to explain it to your followers and they might walk away from you since a good view of the US means understanding and losing that anger, and this is hard to find in groups following a leader these days.(the true group, is waiting for their leader and are waiting till they are called upon and anger does not work for them) But really leaders will have no power to save their following in the hereafter, especially when they were wrong, and thus their followers were wrong.

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People should really learn that to form a group upon a common sense of anger and enimosity towards another group is bound to fall and be ruined. It is no base to build upon. And since you Sasha repeatedly have failed to present any positive alternatives to the situation you are so against, the only conclusion i can make is that you are one of these people. I wish you the best nevertheless, and the best is with Allah. What a good example in Aisha, when she realized that anger caused her to be unjust, she retreated back away instead of waging war against Ali and the faithful with him.

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Auzubillahi minash shaitan ir rajeem,

Bismillah ir rahman ir rahim,

Originally posted by b95000 b95000 wrote:


How do you overcome tyrants, dictators and mass murderers - especially those in charge of the apparatus of a nation?  This is no easy question and no easy task.  The UN has been tasked, in part, with this for years....how have they done?  Why should the US be blamed for every tryrant and evil and ill in the world.

It seems Divinity has charged US with bringing down the tyrants in various parts of the wrold, thru murder of innocents. This costs billions of dollars, a lot of unrest in the nation, bad PR in the outside world, and the citizens go pleading not to blame their nation for it. Unfortunately you failed to see the bottom line in my post ... which was ... the US did not change its occupation even after 60 (and not just 40+) years of bombarding Hiroshima and Nagasaki, she continues to perform this duty so deligently, but the world does not see her as a friend - the population is getting poorer and poorer every day. As for Japan, she is in general a friend, there is development, perfect economy, prosperiety and happiness within the society.

So you keep wondering what would have happened if you did not do it this way and that way in Japan ... and keep attacking other poor populations of the world, while Japan develops her business relations with everyone.

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Originally posted by Nausheen Nausheen wrote:

Auzubillahi minash shaitan ir rajeem,

Bismillah ir rahman ir rahim,

Originally posted by b95000 b95000 wrote:


How do you overcome tyrants, dictators and mass murderers - especially those in charge of the apparatus of a nation?  This is no easy question and no easy task.  The UN has been tasked, in part, with this for years....how have they done?  Why should the US be blamed for every tryrant and evil and ill in the world.

It seems Divinity has charged US with bringing down the tyrants in various parts of the wrold, thru murder of innocents. This costs billions of dollars, a lot of unrest in the nation, bad PR in the outside world, and the citizens go pleading not to blame their nation for it. Unfortunately you failed to see the bottom line in my post ... which was ... the US did not change its occupation even after 60 (and not just 40+) years of bombarding Hiroshima and Nagasaki, she continues to perform this duty so deligently, but the world does not see her as a friend - the population is getting poorer and poorer every day. As for Japan, she is in general a friend, there is development, perfect economy, prosperiety and happiness within the society.

So you keep wondering what would have happened if you did not do it this way and that way in Japan ... and keep attacking other poor populations of the world, while Japan develops her business relations with everyone.

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By the way, I'm not 'pleading' with anyone, other than to appeal to the facts and to reality..

"the US did not change its occupation even after 60...she continues to perform this duty so deligently...keep attacking other poor popultations..."

Please clarify this rhetoric Nausheen with some more specificity if you will...thanks..

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Auzubillahi minash shaitan ir rajeem,

Bismillah ir rahman ir rahim,

Originally posted by b95000 b95000 wrote:

By the way, I'm not 'pleading' with anyone, other than to appeal to the facts and to reality..

Facts and reality are not understood by the rest of the world as Americans present it.

Was there any population, in any part of the world that deemed it fit for Iraq to be attacked?

NO!. And this is for a fact a reality!

Originally posted by b95000 b95000 wrote:

"the US did not change its occupation even after 60...she continues to perform this duty so deligently...keep attacking other poor popultations..."

Please clarify this rhetoric Nausheen with some more specificity if you will...thanks..

Good response. Explains pretty much why some people refuse to answer your Qs.

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Originally posted by Nausheen Nausheen wrote:

Auzubillahi minash shaitan ir rajeem,

Bismillah ir rahman ir rahim,

Originally posted by b95000 b95000 wrote:

By the way, I'm not 'pleading' with anyone, other than to appeal to the facts and to reality..

Facts and reality are not understood by the rest of the world as Americans present it.

B: Americans present facts and reality in a hundred ways - like a kaleidiscope - and if you factor in the peoples of the world there are a thousand ways or more...so your point is obvious...people are self focused and tribal or nationalistic...this is not news Nausheen.

Was there any population, in any part of the world that deemed it fit for Iraq to be attacked?

NO!. And this is for a fact a reality!

You're wrong, the UN and reps were ready to oppose Saddam with force as they deemed it necessary.  That day was coming sooner or later.  With the US, UK and other nations pressing for accountability on a different timetable - that day came sooner.  It is very easy for you to look back now, and cite polls now about how 'no population' supported the liberation of Iraq.  But even that, to some degree, with all Saddam's lying, prevarications and deceit about WMDs is now moot.

Here's the point now Nausheen - is the world better off without Saddam and with a free Iraq?

Originally posted by b95000 b95000 wrote:

"the US did not change its occupation even after 60...she continues to perform this duty so deligently...keep attacking other poor popultations..."

Please clarify this rhetoric Nausheen with some more specificity if you will...thanks..

Good response. Explains pretty much why some people refuse to answer your Qs.

Peace,

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Huh, so you're not willing to give specifics...yeah, great answer...

Peace..

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