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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kim! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 August 2005 at 5:41am

Originally posted by firewall firewall wrote:

what makes it truly remarkable is how the Japanese got up again after being knocked down. muslims could learn something... 

 

Um - the US helped them a LOT.

The Japanese also gave up having a military and stopped attacking the rest of the world.

You _sure_ some Muslims could learn from them now?

Kim... 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Angel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 August 2005 at 6:51am
Kim, did you watch that special on Hiroshima, the other weekend ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote b95000 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 August 2005 at 5:53pm
Context of the atomic bombs dropped on Japan: Japan had just succeeded to kill and rape millions of people between 1930 and 1945..I'm not saying that 'two wrongs make a right' but what I am saying is that this issue is much more complex than simply saying "US EVIL."  Way more complex.

For instance read about the massacre of Nanking by the Japanese army in 1937-1938:

1. There are numerous "TRUE" primary sources available to prove this event did occur.
2. There are 300,000 (estimated + or -) dead people from Nanking that say this event happened. That comes out to 8,095 murders/day compared to only 879/day at Auschwitz.
3. There are 35,000,000 (estimated) Chinese causalties from this period that say it happened.
4. There are 57,418 victims of the Caoxiexia Slaughter that say Nanking was for real.
5. There are 7 Japanese Class A War Criminal that hung, because of their guilt.
6. The Japanese soldiers admit what they did, you can read about it.

Also read more here:
In December 1937, Nanjing fell to the Japanese Imperial Army. The Japanese army launched a massacre for six weeks. According to the records of several welfare organizations which buried the dead bodies after the Massacre, around three hundred thousand people, mostly civilians and POWs, were brutally slaughtered.

Over twenty thousand cases of rape were reported. Many of the victims were gang raped and then killed. The figure did not include those captives who were sent to army brothels (the so-called "comfort stations").

The actual Memorial Hall is built to commemorate the victims.

The actual Hall is located in Jiangdongmen (The Gate on the Eastern Bank of the River), one of the sites where countless human bones of the victims of the Massacre were excavated. It is just one of those "wan ren keng" (pit of ten thousand corpses) which can be found in many Japanese occupied areas in China during the war.


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Bismillah

This is the Defiant America. Dumb, deaf and blind they will never return.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kim! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 August 2005 at 2:08am

No argument here, B - what Japan did in the early part of the 20th century was absolutely evil.

Ask the Koreans, the Chinese, the "comfort women", WWII survivors, their relatives, etc.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jibreel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 August 2005 at 4:52am
And what the U.S. and there allies are doing today is not evil?, by invading
armless countries and killing innocent people while yet blaming there fears
on SADAM of been the possible threat?

lets not forget the Japanese camps in the U.S. before and after that.

so for this matter, wars are evil period and people should not provoke them
by killing others over oil., i am not even talking about Iraq.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kim! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 August 2005 at 6:34am

Hey, no argument there, either!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jibreel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 August 2005 at 6:53am
yah Kim

i think people want wars because they lost there faith God, they do not even
think about it., even if they considered God to be there conscience.

And i say this is becquse some people hqve been putting there faith in
other things then facing there own actions by depending on them for
everything, like oil, money and power.

The moment a person realizes that everyone and everything is God's
creation, then and only then they can accept others., but until they do they
will stop at nothing if they believe money is the ticket to peace.
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