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Originally posted by abuayisha abuayisha wrote:

"Looks like he didnt commit the crime" Wink 
 

Well, intent here is a crime, and prevention of carrying out the act is the responsibility of law enforcement.  Criminal conspiracy; an agreement between two or more persons to break the law at some time in the future, and in some cases, with at least one overt act in furtherance of that agreement.  "Sibat, in the kingdom on a pilgrimage, said he'd be happy to help."

 
According to whom? "Evil Kuffar" Law? or "Holly Saudi" law?
 
Anyway, i always thought, Islamically speaking, you are not guilty until you have actually commited the act, and turning away from it, would be a sign of repentence, or good deed written in your book Smile
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"According to whom? "Evil Kuffar" Law? or "Holly Saudi" law?"
 
Common sense law enforcement in any land, at least, in my estimation.
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We seem to have a champion for the Saudi Holly Laws here! Very poor estimation indeed.
 
Even where the law is clear with regards to adultery, the Prophet (SAW) turned away when a woman came and confessed her crime. Obviously he wanted her to repent and ask Allah (SWT) for forgiveness.
 
But the holy champions of today are so perfect themselves that they are so eager to prescribe punishments - even the death penalty to anyone who in their estimation has violated Islamic laws! May Allah Guide them to the right path!
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The incident with our sister confessing her crime raises an interesting teaching moment, however having little to do with the issue at hand.  If someone has entered into discussions of committing a crime it would be folly to allow them to carry out injustice prior to intervention by authorities.
 
The Prophet turned away to teach us that if Allah has covered our sin, we are not to broadcast it, but privately make repentance.  Once a matter has become public, or in her case, an open confession, the law is applied.  She was stoned to death. 
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You can have the last laugh. I would prefer to engage with reasonable Muslims.
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Originally posted by Tasneem Tasneem wrote:

You can have the last laugh. I would prefer to engage with reasonable Muslims.
http://islam21c.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=152237:fatwa-opposing-nude-body-scanners&catid=39&Itemid=83
 
 
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