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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Whisper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 July 2005 at 7:26am

Brother Jibreel, if you don't mind, may I ask you just one question; is English your first language?

If you read the post a bit carefully Bruce would have committed hirakiri after reading it.

I feel, you could not understand a mature Writers pen here.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nico Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 July 2005 at 9:22am

I understand this Nico. However, those that do consider themselves Muslims - or the majority of the 1 billion Muslims - ought to be right worried about this, wouldn't you say?

Most assuredly...

Apparently anyone that even casts a glance at the West can be killed?

Even worse, those who oppose their view of the religion is in their opinion "takfir" once they decleare someone "takfir" they can be killed. Thankfully a Fatwa was created by learned scholars in Jordan lately saying that no Muslim can ever be called "Takfir" thus the extremists have lost one of their greatest weapons of terror.

Why don't we saw off OBLs head for using a Western satellite phone - or let's get Zarqawi to do it? What a bunch of idiotic death cultism...kill everybody, they foam and drool..

Bc according to the ideology they follow it is ok to use Western goods,and technology as they know that if they don't they will not have a fighting chance. Western Tech is not against Islam, it is how it is used which is.

As to conpiracy theories, I'm referring to jibreel's discussion of the supposed continuing alliance between the CIA, AQ and OBL...

I was talking to her, she isn't wrong per se...she's only 20 years too late as her conspiracy theory existed in Afghanistan in the 80's. Muslims in general. Bleating these ridiculous conspiracy theories causes more problems then it solves as by ignoring the problems and blaming other for the faults of their own civilization they will NEVER fix their situation and they will live in. But I must say it would sound like a great spy novel.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jibreel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 July 2005 at 10:18am
Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

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color=#993300 size=3>Brother Jibreel, if you don't mind, may I ask you
just one question; is English your first language?


<FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#993300 size=3>If you read
the post a bit carefully Bruce would have committed hirakiri after reading
it.


<FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#993300 size=3>I feel, you
could not understand a mature Writers pen here.



Your correct whisper,

my fault of confusing that post with all the crazy other ones here by the
infidels.,

but no need to ask if english is my first language, when quoting here the
texts get sloppy to read at times., i left the text the way i see it above this
time as a example.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jenni Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 July 2005 at 12:31pm
Whisper, come on, all Terrorists are an American Invention? Take some responsibility that some few Muslims do commit violent acts of terror. If they can pratice genital mutilation on thier daughters, kill thier sisters for honor by slitting thier throats, or gang rape a woman on tribal orders, than why wouldn't they blow up a bus or a shia mosque. As a Muslim I don't believe that all Muslims are so religious and angelic that they could never commit a terrorist act. This is not an east west issue, some muslims do not value an innocent life of another muslim any more than a wester force and that is the sad truth.(p.s. I believe most 98% of muslims are fairly good but the other 2% scare me!)
You cant be a good muslim if you are not decent and have a cold heart. Be a decent and kind person and care for women and children and the elderly.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jibreel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 July 2005 at 1:28pm
Jenni,

Islam is a religion, as a religion is Judaism or Christianity,
All 3 faiths trace back to Abraham (PBUH), who existed before Hebrew
was ever spoken or written., and Abraham (PBUH) was not a Jew or
Christian, but a Muslim who bowed down like those who bow.

You can not judge a religion by the people, you can however judge a
devoted believer by there religion, but you have to first be a scholar or a
practitioner to do that and your are not., this comes off bias.

On the other hand, to be a american citizen does not have anything to do
with religion, like where as in Israel, you have to be Jewish and religion
gets exploited, even though the U.S. has some of the most radical hate
groups on the planet like the KKK, ex Nazis for the government., zionists
and who ever has the cash to live there as long as they abide by some
basic rules., which can be broken if you can afford to pressure those they
hate and blame for there countries problems.

So do not confuse Islam with other countries like Israel, you can be from
any faith and live in a islamic country.,also Muslims are from every part of
the globe ..

The U.S. adapted Islamic teachings, like the freedom of speech, equal
rights but yet has failed to use them in practice more then any other
western nation that has been influenced by Islam's solutions to peace in
society, respect for woman and arts & science for a few examples.

**But to get to the point, a Muslim is a person like anyone else but who
rather wants to submit to rules ALLAH (God) had promised mankind in
the Torah and the Qur'an., so we submit to these rules rather then our
desires.

Everyone is tempted by there desires, and everyone tastes sins which
bring sick consequences to a individuals soul and being., all religions
teach this.

**A muslim can not commit a violent act on his own, if he does he
submitted to his own desires and there are consequences., and most of
all, they could not then be Muslim in this case.

**HOWEVER, a muslim has fight only if attacked, or go to fight if there is
clear proof of tyranny and oppressors that come to attack another
nation., like the U.S. has in Iraq and Afghanistan, and worst off
(TYRANTS) who will stop at nothing for there self interests and kill others
anyway, THEN IT IS ALSO NOT MUSLIM TO STAND BY AND WATCH
MURDERS.

**This brings us to the point that if even Israel was attacked by the U.S.,
and Islam has proof that its all oppression, muslims would step in to
fight, and the same for the Christian Faith,
---> Islam prohibits attacks on believers PERIOD, and or especially
innocent people un armed, if this does not sound fare to you, then you
clearly have a problem with living amongst others in Peace., especially
when they where never a threat to you.

**So to finish this of, Islam does not call wars on anyone, but what do you
do if they come to you, your country, your house, your forums to spread
there own ideology without understanding Islam., and attack you or
others by killing, the killing of innocent peoples by the bombings the
U.S. have carried out in Afghanistan years before 9/11.?

**Bush did not stop 9/11 or a war, because the war already started before
9/11, the CIA (his DADDY) just never told you about it, and today they are
more afraid then you think about a revolution if the people really found
out how they have been exploited, not only U.S. citizens but innocent
lives lost everywhere over oil profits.

So there is always two sides to every story.
I can not tell you if this will stop because it already started and its
heading towards a bigger problem as G.W. Bush put it, like that "New
World Order" speech he gave a few times recently.

The "New World Order" was written by Hitler, as well as the "homeland
security gestapo system" that terrorized the Germans to actually believing
all the propaganda about the Jews, so ethnic cleansing is what Bush wants
people to believe little by little and we know how ignorant that ideology
is.

We already see police arresting black children like tat 9 year old girl on
video, Michael Jackson in court while the new Pope has a child abuse case
and a nazi past behind him., but what else is new from the U.S.
government, can you tell us who the CIA will kill next, even you are not
part of the government or benefit from the booty.

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**Bush did not stop 9/11
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What a bunch of bullpucky - with this sort of conspiratorial excess, why should we hear out your points Jibreel?


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Al Qaeda deny responsibility for killing the Egyptian ambassador and the two Algerian diplomats in Iraq!!!

Abu Musab group send its condolence to the Egyptian and Algerian nations and challenge anyone to produce a proof that they killed the diplomats!!

it's in Arabic:
http://www.alarabiya.net/Articles/2005/07/28/15365.htm
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Originally posted by imran1976 imran1976 wrote:

Al Qaeda deny responsibility for killing the Egyptian ambassador and the two Algerian diplomats in Iraq!!!

Abu Musab group send its condolence to the Egyptian and Algerian nations and challenge anyone to produce a proof that they killed the diplomats!!

it's in Arabic:
http://www.alarabiya.net/Articles/2005/07/28/15365.htm


First AQ Iraq (sounds like a really bad band) says it's going to murder these men...then they are murdered...then AQ Iraq denies it?  They're so into living in in corners, like rats, and not cross communicating that they don't even know what they supposedly stand for..  It's ludicrous.  I guess it doesn't take much of a brain to kill people or to blow yourself up in a crowd of children...hmmmph!  Yeah, these people are going to transform the world into a better place...
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