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    Posted: 29 December 2009 at 12:55pm
ASalaamu Alaikom,
I think those of us living in the USA have seen and understand the kind of propaganda that the kuffar have played between the muslims.  I think as far as Afghani is concerned, it is a waste of time to keep giving him attention for his negative and outrageous comments.  If he is a muslim as he claims and he insists he is on the sirat almustaqeem, then we should ignore him and keep him far from us until he makes tauba.  It's obvious he is not at a point of change.  Of course, if he is muslim and changes his way, we welcome him back and forgive him for everything. 
 
If he is not muslim and playing the "propaganda/divide the Muslims game", then we must ignore him also.  So either way, it's pretty obvious at this point and I encourage all Muslims to no longer respond to this thread or Afghanis comments.
 
Allahu Alim.  May Allah guide us to stay on the sirat almustaqeem, inshaAllah, Ameen.
 
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Salam Afghani,
I ran across this thread today and was amazed by your words and writing style. Like many others, I am sorry to say that I have hard time believing that you are an Afghan, or Afghan anymore.  I have known Afghans since I was little. If there is any people on earth who's bravery I admire, it is Afghans minus Mir Jafar or the like.
Many things you bring up and attach in your posts really not for any purpose of increasing your knowledge about Islam or increasing your faith the main purpose of this forum.

We all have different beliefs and understandings of things. And we all have right to our opinions whether we are free or not to express them.
You may think Bush was a blessing for you, I am sure there are millions who lost their lives, families, livelihood, villages and saw terrible destruction of their lives, family members, villages and cities would say he was worse than Hitler.
Each one has the right to their opinion, and each have reasons.
So these opinion, in my opinion will vary depending who, from which side of the spectrum you are asking.
So don't get discouraged if someone don't agree with what you say just accept it as opinion of the other, who have the same right to express their side.
I welcome you to the forum, and hope you stay around and learn from others their side, while we learn from your side.

Hasan


Edited by honeto - 27 December 2009 at 7:37pm
The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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As Salamu Alaikum brother Hamza and sister Taqwa [IMG]smileys/smiley1.gif" align="middle" /> .Welcome to the forum.How about we stop this topic and start a new one based on why Muslims from abroad leave there respected homlands Ive been hearing this alot lately because I have been askings alot of my brothers who where born abroad.I hear about corruption, poverty, and little oppurtunities,We have all that in the U.S also.I agree with the new sister about the dislikes of the U.S. Who here knows about the Hadith that talks about us being in poverty vs striving to compete for a better life in this dunyah?If we all have faith in Allah that things can change then they will(InshAllah Ta ala).May Allah Help us.

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Originally posted by Saladin Saladin wrote:


....ummah.com affair. 
Originally posted by martha martha wrote:




Huh?



 
LOLLOL
 
Hope they take thier filth somewhere else. We would get a load of "you sound like a kafir" if this forum was the right place for them.
 
This thread is just the start of it if it goes on. Im suprised some of these colonial rabbits have toned down there views.
 


Edited by SteppeNomad - 22 November 2009 at 12:04am
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Hamza, you don't represent Afghanistan. Go re-read your posts on your favorite online forum and see how many muslims you have labeled as Kafir. You don't seem to be real Afghan. I know your ancestor are from Afghanistan.  I monitored your posts on your favorite online forum and you keep mentioning a country other than Afghanistan. Do you love Afghanistan or the other country? (hamza seems to have grown up in another country and not  familiar with Afghani culture)
One of the  Afghani-Americans went to kabul and gets into a taxi. Taxi driver asks him, welcome fellow Afghan where are you coming from? Afghani-American- I live in the US, but spent two  weeks in the  (country that Hamza loves)
Taxi-driver- Starts insulting (the country that Hamza loves)
I don't condon xenophobia.  In fact I would have had an arguement with that Taxi-driver if I was there. So why am I mentioning this story? I am just trying to state that Hamza can not learn the "ins and outs" of Afghani politics if  he has the accent (I assume) and the culture of (the other country). He will most likely be insulted by a taxi driver in Kabul for his (the other country) culture.  So his views are foreign to most Afghanis, even to those who don't like American troops (minority of  Afghans)   I tried to have a conversation with Hamza about Afghanistan, but he couldn't do so because he was not familiar with Afghani history or culture. Also, I have never denied the facts that there are extremists in Afghanistan (minority). And what is  better example of extremism than the online group he belongs to.
Hamza, why did you run away, when I asked you to discuss the 1992 events with me? Also, don't lie about extremist buddies. My family was insulted multiple times by your extremist buddies.
 
As far as my travel to Afghanistan. I have never misled anyone.  I have always stated, I live in the US.
So what that I don't live in Afghanistan. One of my brothers just returned from Afghanistan, and everyone that he has talked to over there are thankful that  the US troops are there. I talked to other Afghani-Americans who have visited Afghanistan and they say the same thing. Nowhere I have stated about things being rosey in Afghanistan. Look in page 1 and I have stated that Taliban are stronger now compare to 2002. But that are due to many reasons (go read the page 1), and not because Taliban are popular among general Afghan population. They might be popular among few of your non-Afghan online buddies, but not popular among Afghans.
 
Hamza, don't try to make a mystry out of my post-deletion. All I wanted was to come to your favorite forum and express my views about my (and other Afghans' )support for US troops. Your  extremist buddies,  started insulting me and my  family. After enduring  the  insults  for awhile, I  started insulting them back. Being such a fair site (sarcasm) my posts were deleted but your extremist buddies' post were not deleted.
 
Once again, if anyone wants to know the real-truth then please go to a mosque that has many Afghans. Hamza and I can argue forever, but no one will know the real truth unless they talk to other Afghanis. Also please go to an Afghani forum and ask them the truth.
 
 
 
Hamza, You and I have debated for hours. Debating with you anymore is waste of time. I stated my opinion here and on your favorite extremist forum. If you want to state your  opinion, then do as I did. Open a new thread! Good luck with Kabul taxi-drivers.
 
 
 


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Originally posted by martha martha wrote:

Originally posted by hamza momand hamza momand wrote:

dont spread lie.this is called "buhtan".nobody abused your sister. but i remember its you who said my sister doesnt wear hijab but modest clothes and i like it. fear ALLAH and dont spread lies.some of your posts were deleted and i hope the one in which wat you said about your sister will still be there.


Huh?


....ummah.com affair.

'Trust everyone but not the devil in them'
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where is he now i want to talk to him.

he says most of the afghans are in favor of americans so i want to know who are these afghans.

has he ever been to afghanistan after american invasion?

how can he say that afghans like americans?
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