Reason why there are no homosexuals inIsl

Mansoor_ali wrote: Doo-bop wrote:  Why couldn't you just answer the question that was asked?  Bible also talks about death penalty.Here is some example:  Lev 19:20 And whosoever lieth carnally with a woman, that is a bondmaid, betrothed to an husband, and not at all redeemed, nor freedom given her; she shall be scourged; they shall not be put to death, because she was not free. Lev 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.  Death Penalty In The Bible  http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/1528.htm

believer wrote: Thanks.  By your posts I see that Muslims believe homosexuals should be stoned. I know many homosexuals and they are all very nice good citizens.  Most also believe in GOD.   It is ok to hate the sin- but we are not to hate the sinner.   One big difference Jamal - Is old Fred Phelps the Bible thumper calling for the killing of the homosexuals? "WBC engages in daily peaceful sidewalk demonstrations opposing the homosexual lifestyle of soul-damning, nation-destroying filth. We display large, colorful signs containing Bible words and sentiments, including: GOD HATES FAGS, FAGS HATE GOD, AIDS CURES FAGS, THANK GOD FOR AIDS, FAGS BURN IN HELL, GOD IS NOT MOCKED, FAGS ARE NATURE FREAKS, GOD GAVE FAGS UP, NO SPECIAL LAWS FOR FAGS, FAGS DOOM NATIONS, THANK GOD FOR DEAD SOLDIERS, FAG TROOPS, GOD BLEW UP THE TROOPS, GOD HATES AMERICA, AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD IS DOOMED, etc." Seems to me that there is a big difference between freedom of speech and asking for someone's death.

Edited by mariyah - 04 April 2009 at 9:06pm

Again, solely addressing the original "question" of the UK's "Preacher of Hate" Anjem Choudary's place as a representative of Islam:

Here is an answer of "no" to whether this "preacher of hate" Anjem Choudary, is a true representative of Islam.

Muslim chief bans visiting extremist from mosque

Anne-Marie Walsh
Independent.ie


http://www.independent.ie/national-news/muslim-chief-bans-visiting-extremist-from-mosque-74095.html

A LEADING figure in Ireland's Muslim community has vowed never to allow radical Islamic extremist Anjem Choudary to speak in an Irish mosque.

Dr Nooh Al-Kaddo said his community would have nothing to do with the outspoken solicitor when he comes to Ireland tomorrow.

The Muslim leader, who is the head of the Islamic Cultural Centre in Dublin, said his community completely rejects Choudary's message that Ireland is a ripe target for a terrorist attack.

His condemnation of the militant solicitor's visit tomorrow comes after Defence Minister Willie O'Dea also opposed his appearance at a Trinity College debate.

Outrage

The solicitor who last year provoked outrage when he claimed Ireland was a legitimate terrorist target, has been invited to Dublin by the university's Philosophical Society.

He is expected to justify the use of violence in Islam during a debate.

Speaking last night, Dr Al-Kaddo said he feared that the former al-Muhajiroun spokesperson would spark hatred between Muslims and Christians here.

"We will never allow him to speak in the mosque," he said. "He does not represent the majority of Muslims in Ireland and could provoke hatred between Muslims and the community.

"I feel we are giving these people the opportunity to present views that do not reflect the views of the Muslim community here, or even in the UK. "He has some extreme opinions that we do not share. I feel if anyone is going to speak on behalf of Muslims, we should speak, not those that represent the opinions of a minority. The majority of Muslims have not joined in his views." He said he feared Choudary's remarks during the debate could create confusion among Irish society and the Muslim community.

"He may be talking about things like killing that is not helpful to youth, in their ambition," he said. "We do not share in his views about Ireland being a legitimate terrorist target, and mentioning the use of Shannon by the US. That is not an issue for Muslims here.

"This is a free country of course and everyone has the right to speak, but we should also make sure this is a responsible freedom, and not open ended."

Review

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He said the solicitor should be extradited following his return to Britain to face criminal charges if he repeats his inflammatory remarks during his forthcoming visit.

Another question that may arise:
Could this loudmouth Muslim born and raised in Welling, southeast London, ever legitimately representative for the world's Muslim population?

Edited by Jamal Morelli - 05 April 2009 at 11:49am

There are few 'nazis' here that I can tell

That, I cant tell of anyone here. I dont even see anyone here anywhere near being fascistic. Infact I cant even tell that every nazi (the real ones) were truly evil, God alone knows that. And if anyone thinks I'm being fascistic due to my beliefs, I honestly dont give a damn about it. Talk about being judgemental....

How in God's name it went from gay people to Nazis, holocausts, rapists and murderers is a mystery to me.

All kinds of sins and sinners are bound to come up when talking about 'loving the sinner but hating the sin'; not that every sins or sinners are equal. The concept sounds pretty but in reality its not practical in every situation and for everyone. Eg. A holocaust survivor may forgive and then possibly love a repentant ex-nazi but is it possible for the holocaust survivor to love or even forgive an arrogant nazi, who's not even regretful? Ignorant are the ones who ignore this reality.