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    Posted: 17 August 2009 at 4:39pm
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Salams to my brothers and sisters posting in this forum.
Hello
What i don't understand about some of the things said here or tv, internet or where ever you see it. r/t(homosexual)
We clearly see what has been written and the ink is dry.  So why do people like to agure to try to prove their point about homosexual activities and relationships.  It is WRONG in every way you look at it, and the one's practicing it know it just as well as the one's who dont.
Why get mad at something that we (human) did not ordain from the beginning? We all have our own opinions about the subject but i say LET GOD JUDGE... To the Ummah it's a battle bigger than we can handle so leave it to Allah.  Then we all shall see.
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Edited by Zaharah - 17 August 2009 at 2:35pm
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Saladin, why did you bring that post over from that thread? it's not to do with this one.
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Originally posted by Saladin Saladin wrote:

Originally posted by jesusoursaviour jesusoursaviour wrote:

 
That sounds like fag talk to me and you know what? GOD HATES FAGS. I thought i could save you but i was wrong. I HOPE YOU BURN IN HELL
 
 
 
Is this a man true follower of Christianity?
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by jesusoursaviour jesusoursaviour wrote:

 
That sounds like fag talk to me and you know what? GOD HATES FAGS. I thought i could save you but i was wrong. I HOPE YOU BURN IN HELL
 
 
 
Is this a man true follower of Christianity?
 
 
 


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Originally posted by Doo-bop Doo-bop wrote:

oh dear - seems like the muslims just cant make their minds up - and this on a matter of life and death......
 
 
 
Now you are just making me feel sad. Don't you have a life?
 
The Quran does not call for the death of homosexuals, the Bible does. Anything other than what the Quran states is the word of man, not the Word of God. 
 
Why is this particular subject of such importance to you? It is in fact your religion that calls for the death of those who commit homosexuality. The fact that modern Christians like to pick and choose what they want to follow from the Old Testament doesn't negate the fact that God commanded them to do so. So why not deal with the obvious confusion within your own religion and let us deal with ours?
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oh dear - seems like the muslims just cant make their minds up - and this on a matter of life and death......
 
 
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Originally posted by Doo-bop Doo-bop wrote:


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If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, Take the evidence of four (Reliable) witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them, or God ordain for them some (other) way.
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If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, Leave them alone; for God is Oft-returning, Most Merciful
 
 
 
So what has Allah ordained here?  In verse 15, it is women who are guilty of "lewdness", and in verse 16, it is two men.  In the case of the women, the punishment is house arrest for life, or until Allah can think up some other punishment Confused.  In the case of the men, the punishment is not specified, but if they repent and change their ways, they are not to be punished Ermm
 
And what is "lewdness"?  Adultery is lewdness, so what happened to the 100 lashes?  It looks like homosexuality to me, since the men and the women are seperate in these verses


 Here is a Commentary by Maulana Maududi on the above verses:

 (4:15) As for those of your women who are guilty of immoral conduct, call upon four from amongst you to bear witness against them. And if four men do bear witness, confine those women to their houses until either death takes them away or Allah opens some way for them. (4:16) Punish both of those among you who are guilty of this sin, then if they repent and mend their ways, leave them alone. For Allah is always ready to accept repentance. He is All-Compassionate.26

*26. In these two verses (15-16) the first, preliminary directives for the punishment for unlawful sexual intercourse are stated. The first verse deals with women. The punishment laid down was to confine them until further directives were revealed. The second verse (i.e. 16) relates to both sexes. The injunction lays down that they should be punished - that is, they should be beaten and publicly reproached. Later, another injunction was revealed (see Surah al-Nur 24: 2) which laid down that both the male and female should be given a hundred lashes. These injunctions are necessarily of a preliminary nature since the people of Arabia were neither used to obeying the orders of any established government, the verdicts of any courts of law nor to following any legal code; it would therefore have been unwise to try to force acceptance of a penal code upon them so soon after the establishment of the Islamic state. In due course, the punishments for unlawful sexual intercourse, for slanderous accusations of unchastity against women, and for theft were laid down in their definitive form and served as the basis of that detailed penal code which was enforced by the Prophet (peace be on him) and the Rightly-Guided Caliphs.
The apparent difference between the contents of the two verses led al-Suddi to the misconceived belief that the first verse lays down the punishment for married women, and the second that for unmarried men and women. This is a tenuous explanation unsupported by any serious evidence and argument. Even less convincing is the opinion expressed by Abu Muslim al-Isfahani that the first verse relates to lesbian relations between females, and the second to homosexual relations between males. It is strange that al-Isfahani ignored the basic fact that the Qur'an seeks merely to chart a broad code of law and morality and hence deals only with fundamental questions. It is inconsistent with the majestic style of the Qur'an to discuss secondary details which have been left to people to decide through the exercise of their legal judgement. It is for this reason that when the problem of fixing a punishment for sodomy came up for consideration after the time of the Prophet (peace be on him), none of the Companions thought that the above-mentioned verse contained any relevant injunction.



 
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