Female Circumcision

Hi Again,

I am quite disappointed that some of you here think that I came from an uneducated background without any education whatsoever.  Perhaps where lengthy scientific knowledge regarding the clitoris, I may not have, but generally I do have some basics.

And Angela, when I was 12, , that was more than 30 years ago, education in my country already included the topics that you mentioned. In fact what my children was taught in regards to sexual education was much more advanced than what we had in our school days.  

I introduced this topic about female circumcision is for us to see and to understand as to why this practice may be beneficial for women. This practice had been present way before Muhammad�s time and still practiced by many Muslims as I believe there is some hikmah or wisdom.

Minuteman mentioned that it was not recorded that the women of our Prophet had this circumcision, but it was also not recorded that they did not had it done. Why did Our dear Prophet s.a.w said - The first reason is the statement of Muhammad: "Circumcision is a law for men and a preservation of honour for women."  Perhaps honour in this context is honourable not to seek for more. Possibility that by having a longer clitoris, the sexual desire maybe more and lusting for more sex is very dishonourable.

When I  compare generally the practising Muslim girls and the non-Muslims or even non practising Muslims, wherever they are now, Alhamdulillah, where morality is concerned, our practising Muslim girls, have an upper hand. Perhaps the reason is because of this practice, and another is because of hijab and the other reasons is because of the strong faith in Allah. (avoid which is haram and encourage which is halal).

God loves us human so much. One of the reasons He created sex is for procreation, If there is no beauty in sex, what will happen to this world? - barren with no children.  

However free sex or fornication is totally wrong or haram as it is one of the source of many matrimonial problems.

Nur_Ilahi wrote: I introduced this topic about female circumcision is for us to see and to understand as to why this practice may be beneficial for women.

There is no benefit!

This practice had been present way before Muhammad�s time and still practiced by many Muslims as I believe there is some hikmah or wisdom.

There is no wisdom behind.

It's got nothing to do with religion, yes some muslims may do it but its more culture and tribal than religious. Honour killings were done before muhammed to but there is no religious wisdom behind it.

Minuteman mentioned that it was not recorded that the women of our Prophet had this circumcision, but it was also not recorded that they did not had it done.

true but don't you think if it was of importance either religious or benefit of the women before and during Muhammed's time that it would be recorded, just like the hijab and to cover for modesty? Don't you think some thing like this should have been recorded?? but its not don't you think you should be asking yourself these questions instead.

No one knows why it began but its probably comes from those who felt ashamed and guilty of feeling pleasure and feeling good about themselves and so they passed it on. Those who embrace sex and the goodness that comes with and not ashamed, will not do such a thing.  

Israfil wrote: Nur_Ilahi first off, nobody said that you had no educational background and nobody challenged your personal knowledge so I'm not sure where you perceived that. What we can say is that wee disagree with your defense of FGM (Female Genital Mutilation). But allow me to say if you had such a prior formal education concerning this issue then perhaps you would've refrained from saying the clitoris was the center for sexual desire (when in fact it's not).

Many people think that Muslim way of Female Circumcision is the same as FGM (female Genital Mutilation). It is definitely not.

Here is the three types of circumcision in a female. -

a) Removal of the hood (or prepuce) of the clitoris. This procedure is, to some degree, analgous to male circumcision since in both cases, no part of the sexual organ is cut off. In both cases also, it is only the foreskin, or outer fold of the skin, which is cut off. Properly done, it is not likely to cause any "matrimonial" problem. While some may call it "sunnah circumcision," this is their own appellation and not that of the Prophet (P) who used the term Sunnah only in the context of male circumcision.

b) Removal of the entire clitoris (clitorectomy) along with part of the labia minora, which is satured together leaving an opening. This is a form of mutilation.

c) Removal of the entire clitoris, labia minora and medial part of the labia majora, whith both sides of the female organ stitched together leaving a small opeing. This procedure requires tying together the child's legs of nearly three weeks. [9] It is called the Pharaonic procedure but may as well be called "mutilation".

The one that I meant in this topic is the one that is highlighted in red bold.

Hi Hayfa,

Please do not think that I consider women uncircumcised very 'whory'. Not at all.

I was just thinking women who had a longer clitoris perhaps had an excess libido and had no way of letting go their yearnings or lusts as in unmarried women or widows. And how to avoid fornication if these excesses are not met?

As to married women, there is no harm in having and enjoying sex with their husbands. In fact, Allah blesses women who are Redha (pleasing) to their husbands. As pleasing a husband is also pleasing God. (meaning obeying).