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minuteman
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Diagoras, USA is a recent case. The example of England may even be better than USA as far as democracy is concerned. Please have a look at the recent and very old history too. Then tell us something, some example of good and bad governments. I won't support the present day Iran but I will ask you whether you knew anything about the late king of Iran. Is the present system of Iran better or that rule by the King?? Also please keep in mind the lesson / opinion given by the greatest philosopher (Socrates) who preferred the rule by a philosopher king as the best one ( The Republic). He kept the democracy at the third place. We need to look after the moral values also, not only liberties and the statues of unbridled liberties. So far, the going is quite good for USA. But who knows what is in store for the people. Every one is free to think and solve the national problems. We hope they will keep up their good work. If leaders in Iran and Afghanistan are not ruling well then that is not the fault of Islam. It can be blamed on the misguided leaders. The state may not be theocratic at all. But if a state sticks to the good advice given in the Quran then all matters of reasonable civil liberties are defined in that book. One can make maximum use of it. No harm. And the transition can be gradual, as it had happened in Makkah and Madinah. Many non muslim governments of the present day are far better and much more sensible than the muslim governments. The Muslims should have learnt a good lesson from the secular governments. But they did not. So they will keep on suffering. And they will bring a bad name to the religion of Islam too. |
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Diagoras
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I find this discussion interesting, however, it's rather offtopic for a "Hello" forum. Would anyone be interested in continuing this discussion in the "World Politics" forum?
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herjihad
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Salaams, Idha momken, na'am. If it is possible, sure. |
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Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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Diagoras
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It's up in the "World Politics" forum, the topic is "Political Systems."
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minuteman
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Diagoras, just when I was ready to score a point, you have shifted the goal post. What we had written before has been left behind. |
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Diagoras
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A fair point. I'll post a reply to your point in that topic.
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herjihad
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ROFL. You KNOW you can cut and paste, right? |
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Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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Diagoras
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Yeah, that was kinda my idea.
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