S. Korean hostages beaten for Christ

Tom123 wrote:    Are you saying that the South Korean aid workers invaded Afghanistan?    Cristo Vive!        - Tomasz

Sawtul Khilafah wrote: South Korea sent troops to Afghanistan (as did the United States) then sent missionaries to convert. Obviously, everyone does their own job. One man doesnt plan, bomb, shoot and convert people at the same time!

   What proof do you have that the South Korean government is trying to convert Afghans to Christianity?

   What proof do you have that these aid workers were working for the South Korean or American government?

   What proof do you have that they were actually verbally trying to convert people?

   Show me that these people were working for the South Korean government and trying to bribe children (as you accused them of in your previous post) to convert to Christianity and we can talk.

Sawtul Khilafah wrote: One man doesnt plan, bomb, shoot and convert people at the same time!

   Actually Al Qaeda in Iraq and the Taleban in Afghanistan claim to be fighting for Islam and want to convert everyone in Afghanistan and Iraq or run them out or worse and they are simultaneously bombing and shooting people (as well as torturing and beheading them). So I guess it is possible after all!

   Cristo Vive!
         - Tomasz
  


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Sawtul Khilafah wrote: Tom123 wrote:      What proof do you have that the South Korean government is trying to convert Afghans to Christianity?    What proof do you have that these aid workers were working for the South Korean or American government?    What proof do you have that they were actually verbally trying to convert people?   What proof do you have that they even existed? Maybe they were just inventions of the media

   When you come up with something worth replying to, let me know. Shukran and nasalaama.

   Cristo Vive!
       - Tomasz


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Sawtul Khilafah wrote: Tom123 wrote:    When you come up with something worth replying to, let me know. Where's your proof that what I said was not worth replying to?

   LOL. 

   Cristo Vive!
     - Tomasz

  


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palistine wrote:    Thanks for the kind words, Tom. Tom, i agree with you that there are some decent Christians who are righteous/ sincere in helping the poor etc, but that does not mean that there weren�t missionaries who not only justified slavery, but have worked hand in hand with colonial powers and the oppressors. I mean if there action are genuine in any sense, which i really doubt, why don�t they condemn the occupiers rather than pretending to be against the occupation superficially, but are collaborating with them secretly as evident in the video i have shown. Honestly speaking, it disgusts me more than anything by the actions of the so called peace loving missionaries because i guess i happened to dig too deep into the laundry- perhaps. Anyways iam a bit short of time, but i disagree with your synopsis in general, per my understanding, its just a lure to the faith-nothing more.   palistine

   Hi Palistin,

   Glad to hear back from you. I agree with you among Christians claiming to be serving Jesus and sharing the Gospel with others and serving the poor there are those who actually do that and are as you said sincere and righteous and there are also those who do not and are hypocrites.

   Among people who serve as missionaries there are those who do the above mentioned things and do a lot of good, and there are those who are cynically going to defend imperialism and Western politics while falsely claiming they are doing it to serve Jesus. Among Muslims who claim to be spreading Islam there are those who do so by telling people about their faith and expressing their beliefs in good works, and there are those who bomb, behead, murder and invade others.

   The South Koreans went to Afghanistan as aid workers, not even as missionaries. So while they were going there as Christians, they were not verbally prosyletizing.

   The video you showed me was about US 'missionaries' sent by the Southern Baptist Convention. Most of them are rabidly pro-war and support George Bush. They put patriotism ahead of the Gospel, which calls for love of enemies and serving the poor.

   The people taken hostage in Afghanistan had nothing to do with them. It would be like comparing Muslims who preach Islam on this forum with Al Qaeda in Iraq- since both you and them claim to be wanting to spread Islam. If you can provide me with any proof that the South Koreans were working with the occupation forces or abusing Afghan people in any way, please show it to me. Otherwise, I stand by what I said previously- they were true servants of Christ and have only brought good to the people of Afghanistan whom they were serving in His name.

   About my synopsis being a 'lure to the faith' let me elaborate I have been invited to this forum by a Muslim poster for interfaith discussion and while I am here I also engage in other forms of discussion with people here. I am a Christian and am here to share my faith with Muslims on this forum and to listen to what you have to tell me about what you believe. My faith is everything in my life and extends into social justice issues. My involvement in social justice work and antiwar activism and human rights campaigning (on and off internet forums ) is because Jesus clearly says in Scripture He expects this of His followers. I do not separate my faith from my activism or anything else in my life.

   Nice exchanging views with you. Take care and all the best. Assalamu Alaikum.

   Cristo Vive!
        - Tomasz


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