Why didn’t Muslims leave India?

 

As an afterthought,

Hindus in a minority submit to the ways of the majority. Unfortunately  this is how they manage to survive,

That clearly betrays her intent to insult the Hindus as people having no principles. The line of reasoning is laughable and obviously flawed and  silly. The correct reason, though, is the deep sense of inferiorty  which Indians (both Hindus and Muslims) feel towards the West because of 150 years of coloniol rule and superiorty of WEstern science. The only remedy to get rid of the problem is to objectively evaluate each and every aspect of WEstern civilisation before adopting it.

ZamanH wrote: ...unlike reformers in other religions such as Hinduism who attacked the practise of caste-system etc.

Please buddy,  caste-system is misunderstood.  There was nothing like untouchability in ancient India.  It was in the medieval India such an evil has come and its still continuing in some places.  Thats why there was Buddha(PBUH).

I dont want you people to understand 'hinduism'.  Its very hard to understand it.

I PLEAD YOU NOT TO SHOW SANATANA DHARMA IN BAD LIGHT.


Peace be to everyone.

Sister Nausheen,

Peace be to all.

Nausheen wrote: If you are rational with me, you will find me rational. If you fight with your presumptions that do not apply to me, I will not accept.

No offence meant.

You said you dont want Muslims to leave, but I have found many, many hindus who put us into a witness box coaxing us to prove our loyalty to India Why do you do this?

Well, there is a general belief in most 'hindus' that Muslims are not patriotic.  This may be because of their allegaince with Pakistan.  As Zaman brother himself said, "Muslims identify themselves more with their religion than their country."  This is dubbed as "Muslims are unpatriotic".  And their had been instances of Muslims betraying the government.  For example, a Muslim who was made the head of RAW, fled to Pakistan.  From then on RAW waivered to recruit Muslims into RAW.  And underworlds like, Dawood Ibrahim and Abu Salem, seem to strength it.

Why do you not think muslims can be as loyal to India as any Indian born in that country?

Well, even I sometimes ask my Muslim friends, "Do you really like India?".  I have said thats the general feeling.

I want to show you something, and this will be the end of my discussion with you. I hope you enjoy your stay at IC, if u dont speak the language of hate. Check this ..... http://wb.islamicity.com:8080/~IslamiCity/read?56716,47 .... read the whole thread - India is not oppressing Islam ... nothing more than america or isreal or france or germany. There are mosques in every village ... even those villages which might not have a hindu temple, will still have a mosque This is a very minor example, yet noteworthy. I will state just one more(tho there are plenty others) .... We are hearing about France and Germany, and Turkey (of all the nations) imposing a ban on the islamic attire of women. There is no such hue and cry over the 'burqa' in India :p I am with India, an Indian, and i am also a Muslim. Further, I dont think there is any stupidity in myself for being this way ;) Maa salaama, Nausheen Be not heedless of thy Lord for even the blink of an eye, Lest He directs His attention towards you, and finds you unawares. Also read this http://wb.islamicity.com:8080/~IslamiCity/read?63606,47 ... Read the whole thread.

I never asked to show your loyalty.

I am not what you thought I am. And you offend me by presuming my ideals as what I have always stood against.

I never thought anything about you.  And I am sorry if I hurt you sister Nausheen.

Peace and Love.

However, in general it is those muslims, who have come from a country (Islamic republic) where Islamic sharia is imposed without reason or rationale.

I was not talking of political refugees. Besides, they don't change simply because of the oppression they face in their country. That is not the cause. Those Muslims, who appear to you to have changed after coming to the West, actually lived in the same manner in their own country and because of which they had to abandon their land. They didn't change after coming to the West (they had changed much earlier).

Here, and in Japan, I met many muslims from Indonesia, Malaysia, Iran, Egypt, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Morocco, Somalia (I dont know may be am missing a few) and they are all adhering to Islam as beautifully as one should.

Either you are right or my brother (he has been working in the U.S for more than one and a half year). I don't know.

Peace (if you want it)

JUSTICE is more important than peace.

Edited by ZamanH