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Originally posted by Tasneem Tasneem wrote:

when a country like Saudi Arabia which is visited by millions of Muslims each year, decides to do something so ridiculous all in the name of Islam. This action definitely needs condemning particularly by Muslims.
 

Islam considers magic to be an act of blasphemy. Thus, the Holy Quran say:

"Suleiman (Solomon) did not disbelieve, but the devils disbelieved teaching men magic" (2:102).

In an authentic saying, the Prophet of Islam p.b.u.h. said:

"Whoever goes to a fortune teller (a soothe sayer) or a diviner and believes him, has, in fact, disbelieved in what has been revealed to Muhammad."

Thus Islam condemns magic- even what is called the horoscope or luck or reading one's palm to foretell the future is also prohibited in Islam. This is based on the belief that no one knows the future or the unseen except God almighty. That is why the Quran asserts that even Muhammad does not know the unseen. Concerning this, it says:

"If I had the knowledge of the unseen, I should have secured abundance for myself, and no evil would have touched me" (7:188).

Again, God is described in the Quran as the knower of the unseen and the manifest (6:73) and as the holder of the keys of the unseen (6:59).

In another tradition, Prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h. says:

"Avoid the seven deadly acts which are: ascribing partners to God, magic, killing the human self which Allah prohibited except with right, eating usury, devouring the orphan's wealth, defecting from the battle-field (without a justified reason) and slandering chaste, unwary believing women. Thus Islam has closed the door for practicing magic, simply because it is against its teachings, and it is deceptive and harmful."

So sorcery is a form of magic and therefore blasphemi. And we all know what the punishment for blasphemi is according to a strict interpretation of the Sharia law.

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Originally posted by abuayisha abuayisha wrote:

So sorcery is a form of magic and therefore blasphemi. And we all know what the punishment for blasphemi is according to a strict interpretation of the Sharia law.
 
Aint this man going to Hajj, a sign of his repentence and that he is Muslim?
 
Far as anyone should be concerned, he is a Muslim, even if our fellow Salafis and KSA supporters denie so. 
 
I dont know how people can brush this off as "strict Shariah" when they allow Muslim Murderes and Sahaba insulters to go untouched, this man, whom clearly seems to have repented and is LIKELY a Muslim, but a very daft one by the looks of it, is going to have his head flung off for some Saudi Media propaganda.
 
But I think this dude, like the commies, drug addicts and rappers before him should present himself as "repented" and join the Saudi "Dawah" effort, get an "Islamic scholary" and we could benefit from his scared knowlegde on youtube Wink, thats if he wants to save his head Smile
 
Then the Nigerian Witch hunters can join after him LOL.
 


Edited by SteppeNomad - 21 April 2010 at 9:19am
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"Aint this man going to Hajj, a sign of his repentence and that he is Muslim?"

 

 

"AL-AIN, Lebanon (AP) � Lebanese psychic Ali Sibat had just woken from an afternoon nap in a Saudi hotel when the telephone rang. A Saudi man asked if he could make magical talisman for his sister who had marital problems. Sibat, in the kingdom on a pilgrimage, said he'd be happy to help."

 

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hQ_jb3NeJqD5cjGvkNxW5Jlje9AwD9EVD3I03

 



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April 21, 2010

Saudis Not to Behead Lebanese Psychic

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Filed at 10:59 a.m. ET

BEIRUT (AP) -- A Lebanese TV psychic, who was condemned to death for witchcraft by a Saudi court while visiting the country, will not be beheaded, his lawyer said Wednesday.

May al-Khansa told The Associated Press that the Saudi ambassador in Beirut informed the Lebanese justice minister that the execution of Ali Sibat would not take place.

''He confirmed to me that there will be no execution,'' al-Khansa said about her conversation with Ibrahim Najjar, Lebanon's justice minister. She refused to go into details but said ''matters are going in the right direction.''

''We have faith in Saudi Arabia's judicial system,'' she added, noting that Sibat's actions are not considered a crime in Lebanon.

Sibat is one of scores of people reported arrested every year in the kingdom on charges of practicing sorcery, witchcraft, black magic and fortunetelling, which are considered to be polytheism by the country's ultraconservative judiciary.

The father of five was arrested by the Saudi religious police while making a pilgrimage to the holy city of Mecca in May 2008 and sentenced to death last November on charges of practicing witchcraft.

Sibat, 49, made predictions on a satellite TV channel from his home in Beirut, where psychics, fortunetellers and astrologers operate freely. Many have regular TV and radio shows and some cafes even hire them to attract more customers. On Dec. 31, they jostle for air time to give their predictions for the new year.

According to his lawyer, he was the most popular psychic on his channel, especially among callers from the conservative Gulf.

After Mecca, Sibat went to Medina to pray at the Mosque of the Prophet. At his hotel, members of the religious police who enforce the kingdom's strict Islamic lifestyle spotted him and grabbed him.

Earlier this week, a Saudi judicial official said the country's highest appellate court had upheld the death sentence and asked the nation's Supreme Judicial Council to set a date to carry out the execution.

Saudi newspapers have reported that the Court of Cassation had first rejected the case and asked the lower tribunal to offer Sibat a chance to repent. It was not clear if he was given that chance.

There has been sporadic media attention to his case. The report of his imminent execution earlier this month brought a flare of calls in the Lebanese press for his release.

Some Lebanese has also rallied near the Saudi embassy in Beirut to protest the execution sentence.

New York-based Human Rights Watch said last year Sibat's death sentence should be overturned and called on the Saudi government to halt its ''increasing use of charges of 'witchcraft,' crimes that are vaguely defined and arbitrarily used.''

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Associated Press Writer Abdullah al-Shihri contributed to this report from Saudi.


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Originally posted by abuayisha abuayisha wrote:

"Aint this man going to Hajj, a sign of his repentence and that he is Muslim?"

 

 

"AL-AIN, Lebanon (AP) � Lebanese psychic Ali Sibat had just woken from an afternoon nap in a Saudi hotel when the telephone rang. A Saudi man asked if he could make magical talisman for his sister who had marital problems. Sibat, in the kingdom on a pilgrimage, said he'd be happy to help."

 

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hQ_jb3NeJqD5cjGvkNxW5Jlje9AwD9EVD3I03

 

AL-AIN, Lebanon � Lebanese psychic Ali Sibat had just woken from an afternoon nap in a Saudi hotel when the telephone rang. A Saudi man asked if he could make magical talisman for his sister who had marital problems. Sibat, in the kingdom on a pilgrimage, said he'd be happy to help.

As soon as he hung up, religious police stormed into his room and arrested him for witchcraft. Now Sibat is on death row, sentenced to be beheaded.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hQ_jb3NeJqD5cjGvkNxW5Jlje9AwD9EVD3I03

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Looks like he didnt commit the crime Wink 
 

So its wrong when the West pre-emptively and unjustly arrest and prison Muslims who have explicitly stated certain things, which I wont go into, everyone moans like a girl, but when the holly Saudis Arrest a Muslim it is ok? Clap

Anyway your above post shows it was just a Attention seeking formula from a state that arrests and imprisons jinns Confused 


Edited by SteppeNomad - 21 April 2010 at 11:27am
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"Looks like he didnt commit the crime" Wink 
 

Well, intent here is a crime, and prevention of carrying out the act is the responsibility of law enforcement.  Criminal conspiracy; an agreement between two or more persons to break the law at some time in the future, and in some cases, with at least one overt act in furtherance of that agreement.  "Sibat, in the kingdom on a pilgrimage, said he'd be happy to help."

 
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April 21, 2010

Saudis Not to Behead Lebanese Psychic"

AlhumdulIllha, for the moderates and those who have a clear reasoning, whose efforts may have helped save his life. No doubt a great deal of damage has been done to his family, thanks to the Saudis and their blind supporters!

When you try to reason using verses of the Qur�an and hadith which clearly do not sanction the kind of punishment that the heavy handed GUARDIANS OF ISLAM were going to mete out to this man and have ruined him and his family mentally, physically and financially, I wonder who deserves a greater punishment. Unfortunately, lateral thinking is completely lacking amongst the so called pious Muslims who prefer to let others do the thinking for them and for whom everything is black and white.

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Will they not then ponder on the Qur'an? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity.

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Do they not ponder over the Word (of Allah), or has anything (new) come to them that did not come to their fathers of old?

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�No doubt a great deal of damage has been done to his family, thanks to the Saudis and their blind supporters!�

Yeah, and what responsibility does Mr. Sibat bear? Or does �clear reasoning� suggest otherwise?  
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