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    Richard and Salahuddin had cordial/polite relations . . .true, but they werent exactly 'buddies' :p . Thats because both were intelligent men, that realised that a truce b/w the two parties would be more fruitful than warfare. Also, because both of them respected the other as a respectable/equal adversary . . . they appreciated the other's qualities. But I think both had such a strong faith in thier ideological purpose, that they could never have been buddies :) 

 I agree. "Like buddies" isnt the suitable description for the Saladin-Richard relationship. "Chivalrous", I guess. But I dont think it would have been so if Saladin did not have the upper hand.

 Though there is a lot of good about Salahuddin out there, by nonmuslim historians, some have still slandered him or shown him in a negative light. They will even go so far as to take his very obvious good-deeds, and taint them!

For example, I'm sure you've heard of the famous horse incident b/w Sallahuddin and Richard, when he offered one of his stallions to Richard, whos horse died during battle ; I was recently reading a book 'Romance and Legend of Chivalry' by A.R.Hope Moncrieff - and in it he mentions authors that depict the incident in a tainted way: 

"Saladin...., fiegning a desire for fair play, sends his adversary a marvellous charger, a gift not of generous courtesy but of pagan cunning, for this horse is foal to the Sultan's own steed, of diabolical breed, trained to lie down as soon as it hears its mother's neigh, thus putting its rider at the mercy of his foe. But through the night Richard is visited by an angel, who discloses the Moslem guile, which the Christian hero can baffle by stopping that horse's ears with wax; so ofcourse Saladin was duly set to flight for all his treachery...'  

later in the rhyme, the author mentions that Richard took on 25 of the Saracens in battle, and defeated them, this so appalled the Saracens that they decide to go for a truce. 

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Saladin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Male Joined: 04 September 2007 Location: Sri Lanka Status: Offline Points: 575	Post Options Post Reply Quote Saladin Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 August 2008 at 5:03am
	Richard and Salahuddin had cordial/polite relations . . .true, but they werent exactly 'buddies' :p . Thats because both were intelligent men, that realised that a truce b/w the two parties would be more fruitful than warfare. Also, because both of them respected the other as a respectable/equal adversary . . . they appreciated the other's qualities. But I think both had such a strong faith in thier ideological purpose, that they could never have been buddies :) I agree. "Like buddies" isnt the suitable description for the Saladin-Richard relationship. "Chivalrous", I guess. But I dont think it would have been so if Saladin did not have the upper hand. Though there is a lot of good about Salahuddin out there, by nonmuslim historians, some have still slandered him or shown him in a negative light. They will even go so far as to take his very obvious good-deeds, and taint them! For example, I'm sure you've heard of the famous horse incident b/w Sallahuddin and Richard, when he offered one of his stallions to Richard, whos horse died during battle ; I was recently reading a book 'Romance and Legend of Chivalry' by A.R.Hope Moncrieff - and in it he mentions authors that depict the incident in a tainted way: "Saladin...., fiegning a desire for fair play, sends his adversary a marvellous charger, a gift not of generous courtesy but of pagan cunning, for this horse is foal to the Sultan's own steed, of diabolical breed, trained to lie down as soon as it hears its mother's neigh, thus putting its rider at the mercy of his foe. But through the night Richard is visited by an angel, who discloses the Moslem guile, which the Christian hero can baffle by stopping that horse's ears with wax; so ofcourse Saladin was duly set to flight for all his treachery...' later in the rhyme, the author mentions that Richard took on 25 of the Saracens in battle, and defeated them, this so appalled the Saracens that they decide to go for a truce.
	'Trust everyone but not the devil in them'

Saladin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Male Joined: 04 September 2007 Location: Sri Lanka Status: Offline Points: 575	Post Options Post Reply Quote Saladin Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 August 2008 at 9:01am
	As a kid this guy was my favorite... SINDBAD!
	'Trust everyone but not the devil in them'

Chrysalis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 November 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2033	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chrysalis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 August 2008 at 9:29am
	Another of my favourite muslim personalities is Malcolm X . . . For such a long time, when I was a kid, I used to think he was a non-muslim activist ! Cz his name didnt sound typically muslim, imagine my surprise when I found out he was muslim, I was thrilled to find that out (the fresh prince of bel-air used to have a poster of him on his wall, in the series :p) . . . I'm so glad he reverted to orthodox Islam later in his years. Edited by Chrysalis - 20 August 2008 at 9:35am
	"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."

Saladin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Male Joined: 04 September 2007 Location: Sri Lanka Status: Offline Points: 575	Post Options Post Reply Quote Saladin Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 August 2008 at 9:21am
	One of my favorites too and I came to know about him from the movie.
	'Trust everyone but not the devil in them'

seekshidayath Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Female Islam Joined: 26 March 2006 Location: India Status: Offline Points: 3357	Post Options Post Reply Quote seekshidayath Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 October 2008 at 3:00am
	As'Salamu Alaikum How cud i miss this thread ! My favorite personality after Saluddin Ayyubi is Zainab-al-Ghazali She needs no introduction
	Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."

Chrysalis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 November 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2033	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chrysalis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 November 2008 at 12:01am
	Tell us something about Zainab -al-Ghazali, Seeks . . . and what is it particularly that appeals to you . . . I am a little confused as to who this personality is, so many Zainabs in Islamic History !
	"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."

seekshidayath Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Female Islam Joined: 26 March 2006 Location: India Status: Offline Points: 3357	Post Options Post Reply Quote seekshidayath Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 November 2008 at 2:30am
	Zainab al- Ghazali ! I wish every muslimah gets inspired by her. Even you sis Chrysallis. I wish you you to kindly read the english version of her book "Return of the Pharoah". You possess that energy and potential. Situations around you demand an other Zainab. What inspired me ! Well, she was a devoted die-hard voice of the Muslim Brotherhood and the soul of the Muslim Sisters. She was a pre-eminent Islamic activist and spell binding preacher who lived a life for Islam. She was subjected to the most inhuman and cruel torture and to unspeakable extremes of opression. She was beaten up , flogged, kicked and tied up. Her approach towards trials and fortitude, her energy and zeal for Islam, inspires me. You can read more of her here http://www.islamicthinkers.com/index/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=273&Itemid=26 And please do read her book "Return of the Pharoah It might be apt to repeat her prayer here, which she once made in Prison, raising her hands, she invoked Allah and said : "O Allah ! If you are not angry with me I do not care {for my predacament}, but Your grace is more befitting to me. I seek refuge in the light of Your Face {in the light of} that which has enlightened the darkness {around} and on Whom the matters of this life and the Hereafter have settled, that Your Curse does not befall me. To You is our obedience until You are pleased and there is no might or strength except with You."
	Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."

Chrysalis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 November 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2033	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chrysalis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 November 2008 at 8:46am
	Wow ! I just read that link u provided Seeks! Before you mentioned, I did not know that this lady even existed! Subhanallah. . . I wish to know more about her life and actions, for so far, I have just heard negative things about the Ikhwaan . . . . but again, there are always two sides to a story. I am surely going to try and lay my hands on that book. Jazakallah for the reccomendation. . . its shocking how muslims could persecute another muslim. reminded me of the way I felt post-9/11 . . .
	"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."