CHRISTIANS:FORGIVE EVERYBODY THEIR SINS |
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Caringheart
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Ah, well, greetings Mahdi, This scripture was specifically Jesus speaking to His 12 Apostles. It was to them that he gave the power to forgive sins. I wondered why you would be asking 'Christians' to forgive sins. There is no scripture(that I am aware of) that says that all those who receive the Holy Spirit will have the authority to forgive sins. This was only spoken by Jesus to His Apostles. We do however, all have the power to forgive those who trespass against our own selves, which is what Jesus encourages us to do. "...and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us..." - the prayer Jesus taught His disciples to say. Salaam, Caringheart |
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Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
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Mahdi The Seeke
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Webber
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You know how some people always end their sentences with a higher pitch like asking a question? Goofy, I know, but ... Actually I think this is the man that knows everything and once we finish wallowing our conjecture he'll set us all back on the straight path. Can't wait, :)
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I'm a Gentile.
Numb. 6:24-26 |
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Caringheart
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Is there a question here?
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Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
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Mahdi The Seeke
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why not take Jesus for his word instead of relying on your own personal opinion , conjecture and derived beliefs? |
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Mahdi The Seeke
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the plain and obvious thing here is that you deliberately chose to ignore what the verse says and assigned your own unrelated belief to the verse. that you said 'The obvious and plain meaning here is not that Christians have the power to forgive sins' shows you understand the meaning. what you said after shows you are either in denial, delusional or both. |
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nirvana
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you can make it mean whatever you want. |
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Webber
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I wouldn't say that means all Christians. Some may think so...
Jesus breathed on His disciples and they received the Holy Spirit, who, in turn must have the same authority as Jesus did to forgive sins. Jesus, being the judge on judgement day would be able to forgive sins at any time. I'm sure the Holy Spirit knew the criteria as well. Let's not talk trinity, but we're obviously not talking Gabriel either. Forgiveness is a big thing for Christians. The disciples asked Jesus, how many times should we forgive sin, 7 times? Jesus answer was 70 X 7, in other words...don't keep track. Not being a disciple at the time, I believe my responsibilities take me tis far. If you have sinned against me, I can forgive you and ask for forgiveness for you, but I cannot put repentance in your heart, and don't have the knowledge to know if it happened or not. I can pray The Lord will send you an angel bearing concience. I can pray any good thing for you. With all that good intension and good will, I cannot see into your heart to see a change, therefore I cannot say your sins are forgiven, only that I've done my best. There is nothing, nothing biblical/spiritually good about praying for a curse. |
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