Lal Masjid Massacre

minuteman wrote:    Most of the Muslims in pakistan and India are Hanafi muslims. But their Hanafi Deobandi teachers do not teach them the proper things. According to the Imam Abu hanifah, it is forbidden to rise against a government which is established. That is an important principle if any one wants to follow. ..............................

I think you are misinterpretting. Hanafi can't have a principle which is against the teaching of Quran. If it is so, how can u be a muslim violating any part / teaching of Quran?

As'salamualaikum,

I was surprised to read few members supporting there dear president.

First of all Lal masjid was creating state within state; They were trying to impose their own "taliban-Islam" on majority by the barrel of Gun. It all started when Gov issued the notice of demolition; because the mosque was built on stolen land public property.

Hope u have gone thru the history of lal masjid by now. If not u , there 's little enough at sign readers post. I  respect you ak_m_f   but in this case it was very sad to  know your opinions. Pakistan was separated with the aim to established a muslim state. Is this the islam that Pakistan now has? 

Lal masjid went to shops and threatened Video stores;
Then they kidnapped police men that were around mosque and disarmed them.

And let me , let know the readers that these videos had bollywood and hollywoood cassettes and blue flims as well. Oh is n't bad that lal masjid went to that shop and threatened. We shud have continued that bussiness na .  I would term better - Pakitani islam does allow that. Is n't it?

Does islam allow such things as to view those bollywood films wherein naked woman dance and u enjoy. I s it not our duty to threaten them when the govt is mute. But the fact which i know is that these people gave sometime of about 3 months and asked them to change there business. But still they  did not change so they had to smash them. Whats wrong in doing that when the westernised govt took no action against such vulgarities.

And  minuteman - don't u remember the hadith jaha'n imaan ke darjaat bataye gaye hai. Unn me se ek hai , burayi ko haat se roko. Aur sabse kamtar imaan ka darjah hai, jaise ki aapne ne apne post me zikr kiya -" No. Fighting is not required at all.". Sirf  dil mein bura jano. The least one of imaan. But those people were in the first stage of imaan and so they physically revolted after being giving them some time to change.

Am sorry that i was harsh but its sad that we today being a muslim. charge against our own. Become readymade muftis and state that so and so is wrong. Shud there be no stop in a muslim state for exposings and sex trades and such vulgars. Its not a non-muslim country that such things be encouraged. Shall we allow our sisters to go to those massage centres or trade them. In the name of modernisation, we are trying to modernise islam. Where as there is no  scope to change quran according to our own moods and values. Its the time to hold strictly to Quran and hadith. Now u call them fundamentalist, or fanatics or terrorists.