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   I don't know if that 'you' is for me or if its for everybody?

 I want to make this last attempt to communicate the reasons for the amendments in the rules.

I understand why you changed them. 

 I am not here to break hearts, judge ppl for how they treat me, or mix my anger for one to take it out on another. When I explained rationally you persisted in not paying any heed to the need, and when I spoke with exasperation, you see it as a threat.

Nausheen, I very much paid heed to the need, don't get me wrong on this, no where I have disgreed about the need of changes in the rules. You have failed to see this.
And you have mixed your anger (if you were angry which I doubt it) for one to take it out on another, you basically said that if I don't stop appealing about the discision on Colin, Fezz you would keep the suspension on longer. If that is not a threat then I don't know what is! You said that to make me quiet but I won't, not when I see it has nothing to do with the board rules or the board itself. You were out of line. And I will make it known that I have never appealed about the discision you made. I respected that, it was already done and nothing to able to be done. There was also another similar case else where you put personal in front of the board and nothing to do with the board rules.

 I am not the only one who shld care about you, you should also return the care with care.

And why do you think I have gone into lenghty details in explaining to you about everythings, why do you think I've taken the time in all this, its because I do care and care about the boards, you have failed to see this but instead see that I am against you and the need to change the rules, If I didn't care I would simply leave! I saw unrealistic goals in some of the rules that won't work in favour of islamicity and talked about it to you. I was never against the need to change the rules.

 This is how we function in a society. Mine was not a threat to scare you away, it is to make you reflect you are being impossible, and this is not fair to me, because I am not impossible with you. I have extended a hand of friendship to most of you.

You do become impossible Nausheen, and I mean no offence but you shut down and won't see things from other perceptives. 
I am not being impossible Nausheen And that statement to me was not for a reflection because I was impossible, it was a threat. If you want to ask me not to do something don't make a threat out of it!

 We need these rules, and we need your cooperation to implement these. If no one is ready to co operate, the whole place can crumble down and we will be going home.

Yes we need these rules and you know that I will implement them as I have done so, but I do see some not working well and I've explained this to you, not because I'm impossible nor wanting to follow them.   

 Why do we need them?.... I noticed some ppl have not followed them when they were not in a written format.

Fine I know we need rules but the revised ones are a little unrealistic and I see it won't work in favour for IC.

 If the nonmuslims are here, and they have found room for themselves on this forum, they shld be proud of themselves, they know how to respect and earn respect within Muslims.

Really!, I do agree with you but...  

 If someone feels unwelcome, because Islamic adab is maintained and expected from the members, then that person is insincere from the very start.  If you do not want us to maintain our decorum, it is very sad. If you do not want us to make it clear that we strive to maintain this decorum, it is still very sad.

I want you to have an islamic decorum but what you asks is a little unrealistic, It's made it unbalanced and separated the two groups, its painly not fair on the non muslims, its not netural, yes this is an islamic board but its not so conservative not when you have both othodox and unorthodox muslims, and having some muslims who are willing to speak out more than other muslims.  

 Secondly, this decorum is foiled on occasions by non-muslims as well as muslims, so the rules are  for both, and not just the non-muslims alone.

The old rules provided this for both non muslims and muslims, the revised ones do not. 

 We are very different from the west ... what ppl may think is okay, is sometimes not okay here.

This is not about the differences of the West!! I can't stress that enough! Not every non muslim is from the west! Not every muslim is othodox or conservative!   

 People may think they have cracked a casual joke, but can I ask you if that joke was okay for you to crack in front of your mother? I dont know if I can ask you and make you realise it was out of line here,  because sadly among muslims, the muslim standards have deteriorated. 

Actually I agree with you here. and also that some muslims their standards have dropped. 
FYI, my relatonship with my mother is quite fine and I speak to her about anything as well as crack jokes, not all cracked causal jokes are bad. And that bit you deleted of mine that I replied to Rehmat about, my mum would be fine with it.  

 We are not a sight of fiqh. We are not qualified scholars or medical doctors here. If there are explicit questions pertaining these matters, your sincerity in seeking the answer will be better served if you take them to an appropriate website.

I very much agree with you here but there is no need to ban matters on sexual matters, and as I said to you before: if this board is for people then shouldn't the people have a say in what they want to discuss in cordial and respectful nature, if muslims want to talk about sexual matters then they should have the right to do so, no matter if islamical societies are conservative. you can't ban the subject as you have done that is not fair on anyone. You can moderator what is being said so it says geninue and educational.

 If ppl under 13 are not allowed, still ppl at 13, 14, 15, and 16 are very young.  I dont want their purity to be marred by some information lying here carelessly, and unattended. We are Muslims, and we consider our children as a trust from Allah.

So you moderate what is being said. 

 Graphic material can make some people sick. I felt sick reading one of the posts here, and what i thought was there could be many who are not strong, just like myself, or may be they are weaker than me. There are many ppl in our society who are patients of clinical depression, plus there are immature minds of children to whom we are making the information freely available. Should we not be caring for them in our writings and sharing of material? 

Yes I agree with you here but there is no need in banning or suspend people, most especially when you don't give warnings and let people explain themselves - in a court of law you get heard before a discision is made about your fate.  