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2000+ Years of Jewish Aims for World Dom.

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Topic: 2000+ Years of Jewish Aims for World Dom.

Posted By: Bismarck
Subject: 2000+ Years of Jewish Aims for World Dom.
Date Posted: 09 July 2007 at 11:40pm

But now, what did the most elevate them in undertaking this war, was an
ambiguous oracle that was also found in their sacred writings, how,"
about that time, one from their country should become governor of the
habitable earth."

Josephus, Jewish War, 6.5.4

Prodigies had occurred, which this nation, prone to superstition, but
hating all religious rites, did not deem it lawful to expiate by offering and
sacrifice. There had been seen hosts joining battle in the skies, the fiery
gleam of arms, the temple illuminated by a sudden radiance from the
clouds. The doors of the inner shrine were suddenly thrown open, and a
voice of more than mortal tone was heard to cry that the Gods were
departing. At the same instant there was a mighty stir as of departure.
Some few put a fearful meaning on these events, but in most there was a
firm persuasion, that in the ancient records of their priests was contained
a prediction of how at this very time the East was to grow powerful, and
rulers, coming from Judaea, were to acquire universal empire... the
common people, with the usual blindness of ambition, had interpreted
these mighty destinies of themselves, and could not be brought even by
disasters to believe the truth.

Tacitus, Histories 5.13

There had spread over all the Orient an old and established belief, that it
was fated at that time for men coming from Judaea to rule the world. This
prediction... the people of Judaea took to themselves; accordingly they
revolted and after killing their governor, they routed the consular ruler of
Syria as well, when he came to the rescue, and took one of his eagles.

Suetonius, Life of Vespasian 4.5

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Posted By: Tom123
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 4:50am

Bismarck wrote:

But now, what did the most elevate them in undertaking this war, was an
ambiguous oracle that was also found in their sacred writings, how,"
about that time, one from their country should become governor of the
habitable earth."

Josephus, Jewish War, 6.5.4

Prodigies had occurred, which this nation, prone to superstition, but
hating all religious rites, did not deem it lawful to expiate by offering and
sacrifice. There had been seen hosts joining battle in the skies, the fiery
gleam of arms, the temple illuminated by a sudden radiance from the
clouds. The doors of the inner shrine were suddenly thrown open, and a
voice of more than mortal tone was heard to cry that the Gods were
departing. At the same instant there was a mighty stir as of departure.
Some few put a fearful meaning on these events, but in most there was a
firm persuasion, that in the ancient records of their priests was contained
a prediction of how at this very time the East was to grow powerful, and
rulers, coming from Judaea, were to acquire universal empire... the
common people, with the usual blindness of ambition, had interpreted
these mighty destinies of themselves, and could not be brought even by
disasters to believe the truth.

Tacitus, Histories 5.13

There had spread over all the Orient an old and established belief, that it
was fated at that time for men coming from Judaea to rule the world. This
prediction... the people of Judaea took to themselves; accordingly they
revolted and after killing their governor, they routed the consular ruler of
Syria as well, when he came to the rescue, and took one of his eagles.

Suetonius, Life of Vespasian 4.5

   This is a sickening and racist post. You are using certain writings and historical examples to demonize a whole peoples. That is exactly what some in the West are doing to Muslims.

   I will pray for you that God opens your eyes.

   Cristo Vive!
   - Tomasz

Posted By: peacemaker
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 10:37am

Bismarck:

Consider this a warning. Please comply with guidlelines.

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Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
Qur'an 55:13