fanaofallah wrote: We do not understand the value of time as the past generations did, imam Shafi said: �this world is but a moment so we should make it a moment of obedience� imam ghazali said: "this world ls like a friend to you it wants to give you everything, all the wealth, fame, name, it wants to even stay with you but then suddenly it leaves you there in the dark, deep, black hole, - this is when we die!!! "if you put your head in the lion and it eats your head then it your fault so before our time runs out and we go to the other realm we must change our conditions through doing tazkiyah tul nafs " Subhanallah what an analogy of this world! We should seek forgiveness from Allah (Swt) before our time runs out. This was adapted from http://www.zawiyah.org/ - www.zawiyah.org for more information e-mail [email protected].

 Es_Selam'un Aleykum ve Rahmetullahi ve Berakatuh,

 Brother welcome to islamicity rationals board,i wish you will love ur stay,insh'Allah...Wa Salaam...

Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullah,

Welcome to the boards, alhamdulillah. Ideas like yours are wanting on this forum, so I hope you stay and share some of your time with us, insha allah.

fanaofallah wrote: "if you put your head in the lion and it eats your head then it your fault so before our time runs out and we go to the other realm we must change our conditions through doing tazkiyah tul nafs "

Once I asked a brother how do we go about to do tazkiya (in a systematic and precise manner), and he said, sis, this is very complicated dont ask me .... that was the end it. I cannot trust just anybody to guide me on this road, thus am gropping on my own so far.

I want to ask you one question. Those who draw our attention towards tazkiya and tahara, are they also willing to show concrete directions, or these are just passing suggestions.

Jazak allah khair,

Maa salaama,

Nausheen

yes sister i follow a tarqeeah named tareeqah muhammadiyah, this tariq is unique in teh sence that teh wayfarer himself/herself knows that they are getting close to allah each day please read the following article to know the inportance of tazkiyah and to understand a little about the tareeqah

:sl:

  the importance of tazkiyah tul-nafs can not be stressed enough times, people keep going on about the importance of knowledge, but what seems to have happened know is that people have left tazkiyah tun nafs, which is basically purifying the heart from the spiritual diseases, for example: Jealousy, arrogance etc... They are right in some aspect but tazkiyah is also needed.

We can some what see the importance of this in the situation of Satan (iblis). when he was put to the test before Adam (a.s) as we know the story, who can claim that he/she will or has more knowledge than satan except the prophets, he not only had knowledge but he had it with certainty, meaning that he saw with his own eyes the paradise, hell, the angels, the prophets and moreover he saw Allah (swt)

not only that but he even spoke to Allah (swt), but having all this knowledge did not help him one bit, for instance when he was put to the test before Adam (a.s) and told to bow he did not, therefore he became expelled and cursed forever. There his evil spiritual heart disease came out and it manifested. this then as we know caused him to fall, know one may ask that if he had all this knowledge then how come he still fell, the answer is that he did not do tazkiyah on himself and therefore even though having all this knowledge he still fell, for the very reason that he could not implement his knowledge properly, he just was implementing it outwardly and not inwardly and therefore when he was put to the test he failed drastically.

Allah (swt) himself stresses the importance of Tazkiyah tun nafs in sura shams: to the nearest meaning that

"Successful is the one who has purified himself"

The heirs of the prophet (sallahualihiwasalam) are the Awliyah (the people who have purified themselves) who have purified themselves inwardly and outwardly, by following the Sunnah of the Prophet (sallahualihiwasalam) inwardly e.g. by not hating another Muslim brother which the prophet (sallahualihiwasalam) was like inwardly, And by following the Sunnah outwardly. like our past generations for example: Syedina Abdul Azeez Dabbagh (r.a) who lived and died in Fez, morocco (Maghrib), imam Ghazali, shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani etc... not the normal scholars who just have knowledge but do not implement what they have learnt one bit, this is why most of our normal Ulema are not properly representing the teaching which they have learnt or the past generations who acted by what they knew the reason is because they have not purified themselves, this is why we often see scholars getting into disputes etc...

The people who have purified themselves (the Awliyah) are the ones of whom Allah (swt) praises them in front of angels and tells them look such and such a person is my obedient slave.

People keep on going to conferences after conferences but they do not change one bit they stay exactly the same as they had before they went to the talk. And once the talk has been finished then they straight away go home put the TV on and completely forget about the talk or seminar they had just been to, and the lessons they had learnt,

Because talks after talks will not change a person unless he takes manifest actions to do it to change himself. Allah (swt) will not pick up a person and change him although it has happened in the past but it was very rarely probably 1 in a billion. As Allah (swt) says in the glorious Quran to the nearest meaning that �if you take one step towards me then i would take to steps towards you...". From this we can see that Allah (swt) is ready all the time to forgive and to take us close to him but the slackness is in us. As Allah (swt) says that he wants us to take those initial steps towards him and then the remaining journey will be easy inshallah because then ALLAH (SWT) special mercy and forgiveness will come and help that person. These (talks after talks which people seem to go to every time and not change even one bit) are only fulfilling the desires of the nafs, and then once it has been fulfilled then they simply forget.

 :) hope you are not put off after reading all this. if you want more information on tazkiyah nafs and how to purify oneself from it then please go to the following web site www.zawiyah.org - www.zawiyah.org or call on 0161 351 1957 - 07790 550 360. To begin the course of self purification. insha Allah this then will be the initial steps to which Allah (swt) says to us, because then the person will be taking action into to changing his/her condition and not only saying i wish i could change and not doing nothing about it.

Jazzak Allah for reading it and May Allah (swt) reward us for our efforts which we put in to promote and to spread the deen - Amin! or e-mail [email protected]

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fanaofallah wrote: yes sister i follow a tarqeeah named tareeqah muhammadiyah, this tariq is unique in teh sence that teh wayfarer himself/herself knows that they are getting close to allah each day please read the following article to know the importance of tazkiyah and to understand a little about the tareeqah :sl:   the importance of tazkiyah tul-nafs can not be stressed enough times, people keep going on about the importance of knowledge, but what seems to have happened know is that people have left tazkiyah tun nafs, which is basically purifying the heart from the spiritual diseases, for example: Jealousy, arrogance etc... They are right in some aspect but tazkiyah is also needed. We can some what see the importance of this in the situation of Satan (iblis). when he was put to the test before Adam (a.s) as we know the story, who can claim that he/she will or has more knowledge than satan except the prophets, he not only had knowledge but he had it with certainty, meaning that he saw with his own eyes the paradise, hell, the angels, the prophets and moreover he saw Allah (swt) not only that but he even spoke to Allah (swt), but having all this knowledge did not help him one bit, for instance when he was put to the test before Adam (a.s) and told to bow he did not, therefore he became expelled and cursed forever. There his evil spiritual heart disease came out and it manifested. this then as we know caused him to fall, know one may ask that if he had all this knowledge then how come he still fell, the answer is that he did not do tazkiyah on himself and therefore even though having all this knowledge he still fell, for the very reason that he could not implement his knowledge properly, he just was implementing it outwardly and not inwardly and therefore when he was put to the test he failed drastically. Allah (swt) himself stresses the importance of Tazkiyah tun nafs in sura shams: to the nearest meaning that "Successful is the one who has purified himself" The heirs of the prophet (sallahualihiwasalam) are the Awliyah (the people who have purified themselves) who have purified themselves inwardly and outwardly, by following the Sunnah of the Prophet (sallahualihiwasalam) inwardly e.g. by not hating another Muslim brother which the prophet (sallahualihiwasalam) was like inwardly, And by following the Sunnah outwardly. like our past generations for example: Syedina Abdul Azeez Dabbagh (r.a) who lived and died in Fez, morocco (Maghrib), imam Ghazali, shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani etc... not the normal scholars who just have knowledge but do not implement what they have learnt one bit, this is why most of our normal Ulema are not properly representing the teaching which they have learnt or the past generations who acted by what they knew the reason is because they have not purified themselves, this is why we often see scholars getting into disputes etc... The people who have purified themselves (the Awliyah) are the ones of whom Allah (swt) praises them in front of angels and tells them look such and such a person is my obedient slave. People keep on going to conferences after conferences but they do not change one bit they stay exactly the same as they had before they went to the talk. And once the talk has been finished then they straight away go home put the TV on and completely forget about the talk or seminar they had just been to, and the lessons they had learnt, Because talks after talks will not change a person unless he takes manifest actions to do it to change himself. Allah (swt) will not pick up a person and change him although it has happened in the past but it was very rarely probably 1 in a billion. As Allah (swt) says in the glorious Quran to the nearest meaning that �if you take one step towards me then i would take to steps towards you...". From this we can see that Allah (swt) is ready all the time to forgive and to take us close to him but the slackness is in us. As Allah (swt) says that he wants us to take those initial steps towards him and then the remaining journey will be easy inshallah because then ALLAH (SWT) special mercy and forgiveness will come and help that person. These (talks after talks which people seem to go to every time and not change even one bit) are only fulfilling the desires of the nafs, and then once it has been fulfilled then they simply forget.  :) hope you are not put off after reading all this. if you want more information on tazkiyah nafs and how to purify oneself from it then please go to the following web site www.zawiyah.org - www.zawiyah.org or call on 0161 351 1957 - 07790 550 360. To begin the course of self purification. insha Allah this then will be the initial steps to which Allah (swt) says to us, because then the person will be taking action into to changing his/her condition and not only saying i wish i could change and not doing nothing about it. Jazzak Allah for reading it and May Allah (swt) reward us for our efforts which we put in to promote and to spread the deen - Amin! or e-mail [email protected]

 Es_Selam'un Aleykum, 

 Brother,please give us more rational answers;can we eat tazkiyah?,is it touchable?,is it full apportionable or does it have taste? or color?...brother,please don't be irrational...you are so emotional...

Auzubillahi minash shaitan ir rajeem,

Bismillah ir rahman ir rahim,

Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullah,

Suleyman wrote:  Es_Selam'un Aleykum,   Brother,please give us more rational answers;can we eat tazkiyah?,is it touchable?,is it full apportionable or does it have taste? or color?...brother,please don't be irrational...you are so emotional...

Fanaofallah, I regret the above comment. Please ignore it if you can. As for the information on the tariqah, brother, it is not what I enquired. Nor do I ask u about the definition of Tazkiya. My question was very straight, may be you do not know the answer, which is fine.

I hope you will enjoy your stay here, insha allah.

Maa salaama,

Nausheen

Nausheen wrote: Auzubillahi minash shaitan ir rajeem, Bismillah ir rahman ir rahim, Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullah, Suleyman wrote:  Es_Selam'un Aleykum,   Brother,please give us more rational answers;can we eat tazkiyah?,is it touchable?,is it full apportionable or does it have taste? or color?...brother,please don't be irrational...you are so emotional... Fanaofallah, I regret the above comment. Please ignore it if you can. Nausheen

Es_Selam'un Aleykum ve Rahmetullahi ve Berakatuh Sister! Nausheen,

It was just an joke;an imitation,he understood but you did not as you do well at the last times...sometimes we use words from their reverse meanings for telling their real meanings! as there can be seen in so many examples passing in the holy Qur'an;who reads?...

 I was trying to not loosing a sister(closing my eyes to her faults to her friends!);but i think the time come to loosing a brother...you botched all of my good opinions on u;...thank u very much;no need to replying your message...Wa Salaam...

Assalaamu Alaikum

Fanaofallah

Alhamdulilah, I appreciate your post (& reply to Sister Nausheen�s Q).

I have followed your link, & will read (contemplate) further. I agree with the need for �tazkiyah tun nafs�, & I (as a revert) am in the process of truly perceiving what is required (hence I am glad you have graced us with your company). I also feel that this aspect of practice is superior to � knowledge.

Fanaofallah, I like the statement  �Allah (swt) is ready all the time to forgive and to take us close to him but the slackness is in us.� You are so right�.. a time comes when a test emerges, if a person fails that (particular) test, and relapses in his/her religion, the persons pride is (more often than not) to blame.

I also think Allah (SWT) lets us slip up in small ways sometimes, so that we may learn, strengthen, & improve ourselves.

Fanoafallah stated: �not the normal scholars who just have knowledge but do not implement what they have learnt one bit, this is why most of our normal Ulema are not properly representing the teaching which they have learnt or the past generations who acted by what they knew the reason is because they have not purified themselves, this is why we often see scholars getting into disputes etc...�

I sometimes contemplate why we just all don�t shut up and leave it to the (classical) scholars, however (you must agree) it is not always easy to gain access (to scholars, & alike), to ask questions about perceiving what you have read/heard. Hence I appreciate been able to discuss such matters, even if it is not with someone at the level of a scholar. 

I look forward to you starting a topic of discussion in the forum (proper). Insha Allah

nadir   

Assalaamo Alaikum

This morning I thought I should meet some Muslims who have introduced themselves in this topic "Introduction: Who am I ?"

I find a battle raging here.

Brother Fanaofallah, pls kindly explain the meaning of your pen name. I learnt Qur�anic Arabic, grammar and construction of words from root, construction of sentences etc. I have not been to your site the angle "Zawiah.com" � I will inshaaAllah do that, but your mail does speak much about your ideas.

There is a group of Muslims who respect, then follow, then glorify then deify - helpers ( Awlia). Qur�an sometimes praises those who helped in propagation of Islam as awlia & at most other iit says that no �helper� can intervene between man and his God as far as judgement of his deeds are concerned. So this is some thing like a two egded sword. It cuts both ways.

Then there are Sufiis. The way of the heart. Nothing is defined.

And we also have the main stream Islam � as presented in Qur�an � a balance between fancy ( words words & words) and concrete actions with good intent judged for that time and place.

Brother Suleiman � you wanted to ask this ( can we eat Tazkiah ?). Brother, you got angry with sister Nausheen. Come back to NTP ( normal temperature & pressure), in Science and Technology we refer it to an atmospheric pressure at sea level - One Bar - and a temp of 15 deg Celcius � isn�t it cool ? Sister should not have said to disregard your comment or for that matter anyone else�s comment. We have to say what we believe. I had an earlier clash that lasted exactly one evening. Because she is a good person, overall.

Tazkiatunnafs. I will just give quick meaning.

Tazkiah means purification

Nafs as we know is self, a person, his body/soul, mind, ideas, ego etc.

Purification as we know is to get rid of undesired elements, dirt, filth, evil. As a result we will be left ( or would have acquired) the desirable qualities � traits, clean.

After we cut through the jugglery of words, we come to one simple question. Do�s & Dont�s. Thus far we have no problem. Every one agrees. Then comes what is good quality ? (and its opposite will be bad ).

In my reckoning:

Honesty, Fairness, equality ( this counters your selfishness), Humility, ( this counters your ego), kindness, forgiveness, charity ( this is Godliness). Apply these principles and one can not go wrong � in fact there is no clash with any upright man in this world no matter what label of religion he wears. We do this in submission to Allah and that is why we are submitters ( Muslims).

Try the ritualistic acts of the Prophet or Khulfai Raashidiin ( Those in the past who were rightly guided), or Imams or Walis, or the "Ulema" of centuries after the Prophet � you are a repeater. Repeating actions without a clue of what, why & wherefore ? Monkeys do it by nature. Their ( Prophet & Khalifa � khulfa, pl) acts for that time & place were "perfect". The principles & underlined intention is unassailable. This is not by "belief" but by reading and analyzing in context of "time & place".

This is what I think my brothers & sister. I could be mistaken. But I have to use the tool (intellect) Allah has given and chastised so often in The Qur�an to use it.

May Allah show us light.

Mukhlis

(PS. Anyone who wishes to discuss this further, pls start a new topic)

Mukhlis wrote: Assalaamo Alaikum Brother Suleiman � you wanted to ask this ( can we eat Tazkiah ?). Brother, you got angry with sister Nausheen. Come back to NTP ( normal temperature & pressure), in Science and Technology we refer it to an atmospheric pressure at sea level - One Bar - and a temp of 15 deg Celcius � isn�t it cool ? Sister should not have said to disregard your comment or for that matter anyone else�s comment. We have to say what we believe. I had an earlier clash that lasted exactly one evening. Because she is a good person, overall.

 Aleykum Selam ve Rahmetullahi ve Berakatuh,

 Brother,the words i have said were including figurative meanings,it was just an different type of message to a user! who was accusing me as an irrational and so theoretical without knowing anything about me...in brother Suleyman's heart there is no place to a dark point(grudge) to anyone;i have no chance of being upset with anyone,may be my weakness;the only problem is about my english level who does not reflect me to the board and i don't want to be reflected or being understood from after that point who was knowing me well(?) and sold to one or three words without knowing anything about me;if someone! is valuing me in these conditions then all i can say is they are chewing my rights and breaking my heart,i love everyone and will insh'Allah survive;all i need is to be valued by Allah,this is enough;i promised myself giving to no one a full worth! if he/she has no power to carry and will waste my good intentions putting me in an position as an stupid...some of my words can't be understood from everyone because my experiences on the holy Qur'an is different than the others...i wish i could be an regular muslim;...Wa Salaam...

Assalam-alaikum

May Allah guide us all to the right path, Ameen! AlhamdulIllah I read the Quran and the hadith mainly from Sahih Muslim and Sahih Bukhari (the most authentic sources) and Allah has made Islam for us easy to follow. I do not understand these new terms "tazkiya" etc. I have not come across this term or RasulAllah doing/teaching "tazkiya". Can someone who knows this enlighten me through authentic sources only. The following hadith may be of benefit to readers:

Volume 1, Book 2, Number 44:

Volume 1, Book 3, Number 100:

assalamualicum brother or sister if you can kindly go to the site http://www.zawiyah.org - www.zawiyah.org and then use the contacts button to ask this question which you have asked here, inshaallah you will be given full lenghty answer from evidences from the quran and the sunnah (hadith) as to what the term 'tazikyah' means and why is it so imortant not only that what the past scholors of islam said about it like the likes of imam ghazali (r.a). as it will notbe approiate to give you the answer here because i am shot of time.

jazzak allah

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 Assalam alaykom wa rahmat Allah,

 Edriss is glad meeting you brothers and sisters here :).

 I was on Islam.org main website and I clicked on a topic to find myself here. when I opened this topic, I find out that I must correct something the brother said if Allah wants.

 tazkiat in arabic doesn't mean purification! tazkiat comes from the arabic verb zakkaa from where comes the zakat that we all suppose to do as a muslims. the meaning of the verb is growing and raising things! the verb who comes from Rebaa is similar in the arabic language to this verb zakkaa. but in Fekh, Rebaa gonna discribe a negative way of raising your money and zakaat gonna discribe a positive way of doing it(do not ask me how? cause it will take us hours of explaination on how this things work following Allah's rules). and this sign of Quran may help, I will write it as it is in arabic and later give a brief translation.

 Allah said after Aoudu Bellah Mina ashaytan arrajeem "yamhaku Allah Arrebaa, wa you_rbee Assadakat"   in english the meaning close to this "Allah destroy the Rebaa and raise the charities"

 as you may already understood, you_rbee assadakat is raise the charities which also means zakat because zakat is a charity who must be done if you meet the requirements of it.

 brother fanaXXXXXX, may Allah bless your heart? your username is false and you should change it. the right expression is fana_o_Allah which is a shotcut to this expression "I'm" fana_O_Allah. fana means passing from existance to the not existance. we all humanbeing gonna pass from existance to not existance when we die. but Allah doesn't die and he is Assamad(read the third surah before the last one of the Quran). you copied the expression without understanding it well and you use it completly wrong in your usernam. fana of XXXX  means you accord the fana to Allah, completly wrong. change it to it's original way fana_O_Allah or fanaoAllah? may Allah forgives you and forgives us whenever we do this kind of mistakes?Ameen

 another thing my brother if you don't mind! you should not ask people to go to that website that you like and discuss there! that's called you betray the trust of Islam.org in you for giving you the right to come to this discussion board. let's me put it clear for you here so you won't missunderstand me? YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE COMMERCIAL TO YOUR WEBSITE BUT NOT TO TELL PEOPLE TO LEAVE DISCUSSING HERE AND GO DISCUSS THERE? from the discipline of Islam and the raising of the soul, you have to try to not harm directly or indirectly someone who gave you a favore(like Islam.org is just giving us favor to be here).

 you can go to that website and ask later come back tell us here! and we will always be thankful to you and your effort.

 I put in your attention here: I'm not related to Islam.org by anyway. I just saw some wrong things done in reading this topic and I put an effort to try to correct it. May Allah helps us to understand our mistakes and correct them? the Prophet said salla Allah alaihe wa sallam "you all, do mistakes and the best of those who do mistakes, those who repent"

Assalam Alaikom

NO BROTHER THE ARABIC TERMONOLOGIE IS FANA - FIL - LLAH  i have said what it means on one of the replies of what it means and who uses it and why most people do not know what it means.

and another thing tazkiyah is purification as allah (swt) said in sura as shams to the nearest meaning "successful are those who have purified themselves" please read hte article the importance of tazkiyah if you want more proofs from quran and hadiths then let me know

another thing brother i am not trying to misuse the forums inany way all i am trying to do is make people aware that there is a course which is avaliable to do which if done can purifiy people. i am doing this cousre and benefiting from it imenselly and thought i might share it with other brothers and sisters.as the prophet (sallahualihiwasallam) has said in one hadith to the nearest meaning that "when you give something in charity then give something which is dear to you which you love not that which you hate"  the other this site is not mine or anyone's it is the site of the brothers who run this course which is free when i refered people to this site all i wanted to do was to give an oppurtinuty for people to get the answers from the people themselves (from the source), as they wanted to know what is tazkiyah etc... i thought these people who run this course will know more about tazkiyah and purification than other people as they run it and have done research as to what it is. 

but i see that people dont want this sort of 'gifts' and 'solutions'

wasallam

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 fana fee Allah translated to Fana In Allah and not of Allah. tazkiat is not purification and whoever translated that to you as a purification needs help like you my brother. purification is Tahara. I wish you pick up  a dictionary in arabic instead of argueing on my native language? may Allah make us from the people who listen to the talk and follow the best of it? Ameen

 when you ask people to go and ask questions and get answears in an other website, indirectly it means they have to leave the discussion here and go discuss whatever you thing is better in the other website. I don't think you can find somebody who doesn't understand you are trying to bring a traffic to that website on the expensive of this one. that's why the smart people made comercials paid on their websites. you have to be very thanksful for the moderator of this Board. cause he doesn't mind or doesn't even read what you say here.

 when somebody try to help you, think carefully about what he said? do not act lunatic and just back whatever you said because you said it.

 the pride my brother, is the main reason why satan end it where he is now.

 may Allah bless your heart? I did my best to help! I'm not interesting to any argueing... the other website yours or not, it makes no sense to me because there is no way to know from here, what kind of relationship between you and that website.

 salam alaikom

by allah brother i love you for allah only as you are my brother in islam i have no hatred for any brother in islam,brother you seem to have taken things the wrong way! i was not advertising any websites!!!!

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brother i do not hate any one nor have i said any thing which was offensive to brother edriss all i said was read what i wrote for one of the replies which i will again being quoting in this one so brother edriss can read it>

"and you aslo wanted to know why my user name was fana - of - allah well, it means that one is extinct in allah what this means is extinct in the love of allah (swt), these are terminologies which you might not have come across they are used in thasauwuff, here it does not necessarly mean that one is extint in the love only but it means that his love for allah (swt0 is manifested by his action, words, and activities, that he is not lazy in carrying out he commands of allah(swt). i am only trying to become this".

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Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullah

fanaofallah wrote: brother i do not hate any one nor have i said any thing which was offensive to brother edriss all i said was read what i wrote for one of the replies which i will again being quoting in this one so brother edriss can read it> "and you aslo wanted to know why my user name was fana - of - allah well, it means that one is extinct in allah what this means is extinct in the love of allah (swt), these are terminologies which you might not have come across they are used in thasauwuff, here it does not necessarly mean that one is extint in the love only but it means that his love for allah (swt0 is manifested by his action, words, and activities, that he is not lazy in carrying out he commands of allah(swt). i am only trying to become this".

Dear Brother,

Tassawwuf is a very deep science of Islam, which most people do not seek to understand. Unfortunately, there are also many who refute it ,while they have not studied the details. It is a great pleasure to have you here, talking some of the fine points, but if you take a careful look into our "old forums" it has been discussed in lengths - to no avail.

You are correct, allah speaks about purification in surah ash shams. Not just that, many people may have not pondered over this, but allah (swt) in this surah, swears by seven things from  His creation to emphasise on this one point, ie purification of soul.

When allah swears by something, it is not to add to the reality of what He is saying, because whatever He has said in the Quran, is nothing but truth, however, the swear makes the issue more emphatic - To draw a closer attention of the reader to the issue - to indicate the importance of the matter, etc. Elsewhere in the Quran allah may have sworn by one or two things, to illustrate a point, but I dont remember comming across seven swears in a row to illustrate one point, except in surah ash shams. How important it is to purify the soul, if we all would understand, there will be more harmony on earth, insha allah.

1. By the Sun and his (glorious) splendour;

2. By the Moon as she follows him;

3. By the Day as it shows up (the Sun's) glory;

4. By the Night as it conceals it;

5. By the Firmament and its (wonderful) structure;

6. By the Earth and its (wide) expanse:

7. By the Soul, and the proportion and order given to it;

8. And its enlightenment as to its wrong and its right;-

9. Truly he succeeds that purifies it,

10. And he fails that corrupts it!

Nausheen wrote: Auzubillahi minash shaitan ir rajeem, Bismillah ir rahman ir rahim, Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullah   Dear Brother, Tassawwuf is a very deep science of Islam, which most people do not seek to understand. Unfortunately, there are also many who refute it ,while they have not studied the details. It is a great pleasure to have you here, talking some of the fine points, but if you take a careful look into our "old forums" it has been discussed in lengths - to no avail.

Es_Selam'un Aleykum ve Rahmetulahi ve Berakatuh Dear User,

Let's explain the meaning of tasawwuf from the science of shariat,this will be more good for our futures in islam instead of our assumptions,desires and tight perspectives appears in our minds which may cause some serious results inside the road to Allah while facing with the exams,i wish Allah will all protect all of us from falling in misunderstanding the concepts of Islam,falling in worshiping to the idols appears in our minds assuming that nobody knows more than me...no body has the right of reflecting the concepts of Islam wrongly without putting any of his hands under the stone of Islam,If islam lived then could be understood;because some of the doors in Islam needs to be given without eating the heritage as fully explained in Surah al Leyl...

 An example(029.061) from the dark ages proving that Khafirs were also saying Allah and worshiping to the idols in their minds;a believer must know what he believes:must depend on what Allah suggests instead of calling to the assumptions;this rule is also valid for the Khafirs,they can't be Khafir before arriving to the point knowing(insight) what they reject...this ayat proves that we don't know so much about Qur'an,we were knowing that Khafirs were at the cross side of the river;no!...they are also in the relation with Allah...

 Another concept from the holy Qur'an also 029.61 gives us an important key that a Khafir does not worship to Allah;Mushrik both worships to Allah and to the idols at the same time inside his mind,assumptions or in the serious intentions...A khafir can also be a mushrik,so scary...

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YUSUFALI: If indeed thou ask them who has created the heavens and the earth and subjected the sun and the moon (to his Law), they will certainly reply, "Allah". How are they then deluded away (from the truth)?

fanaofallah wrote: brother i do not hate any one nor have i said any thing which was offensive to brother edriss all i said was read what i wrote for one of the replies which i will again being quoting in this one so brother edriss can read it> "and you aslo wanted to know why my user name was fana - of - allah well, it means that one is extinct in allah what this means is extinct in the love of allah (swt), these are terminologies which you might not have come across they are used in thasauwuff, here it does not necessarly mean that one is extint in the love only but it means that his love for allah (swt0 is manifested by his action, words, and activities, that he is not lazy in carrying out he commands of allah(swt). i am only trying to become this".

 Es_Selam'un Aleykum ve Rahmetullahi ve Berakatuh Brother Fan-of-Allah,

 Feel free to write in the board,welcome to islamicity board!,also Dr.Edriss,you welcome too!...

Auzubillahi minash shaitan ir rajeem,

Bismillah ir rahman ir rahim,

Suleyman wrote: Es_Selam'un Aleykum ve Rahmetulahi ve Berakatuh Dear User, Let's explain the meaning of tasawwuf from the science of shariat,

Those who talk about "eating" and "drinking" Tazkiya cannot explain Tassawwuf from any perspective. Therefore thank you, but no thanks. I don't pay attention to such claims which have lost credibilty in terms of being sincere.

Two. My post was in no way directed to you.

Three. I was not using any authority in my comments. Your presumptions and accusations are boldly false.

Four. I have very little to ponder on Maulana Maududi's writings.

fanaofallah wrote: at the end of the day brother and sister we must come to know that purification is an important aspect of islam and we as muslims should not neglect it, moreover we should take steps in trying to purifiy ourselves dont you agree?

 Yes,i am with you,i agree...Jazak Allah Khair...

Nausheen wrote: Auzubillahi minash shaitan ir rajeem, Bismillah ir rahman ir rahim, Suleyman wrote: Es_Selam'un Aleykum ve Rahmetulahi ve Berakatuh Dear User, Let's explain the meaning of tasawwuf from the science of shariat, Those who talk about "eating" and "drinking" Tazkiya cannot explain Tassawwuf from any perspective. Therefore thank you, but no thanks. I don't pay attention to such claims which have lost credibilty in terms of being sincere. Two. My post was in no way directed to you. Three. I was not using any authority in my comments. Your presumptions and accusations are boldly false. Four. I have very little to ponder on Maulana Maududi's writings.

Es_Selam'un Aleykum ve Rahmetullahi ve Berakatuh Dear User,

Dear user,i represent my best regards to you for your refusenik approach on an high issue like this,thank u very much;you will not see any more pressure from me,your potential is clear,work is over...best regards.

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YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Obey Allah and His Messenger, and turn not away from him when ye hear (him speak).

assalamualicum read this:

THINK before your THOUGHTS  become your WORDS
THINK before your WORDS become your DESIRES
THINK before your DESIRES become your ACTIONS
THINK before your ACTIONS become your HABITS
THINK before your HABITS become your DESTINATION
THINK before your DESTINATION BECOMES TOO LATE!!!!

we must change by doing purification and then go to meet allah (swt) otherwise we might end up in the wrong place HELL!

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fanaofallah wrote: assalamualicum read this: THINK before your THOUGHTS  become your WORDS THINK before your WORDS become your DESIRES THINK before your DESIRES become your ACTIONS THINK before your ACTIONS become your HABITS THINK before your HABITS become your DESTINATION THINK before your DESTINATION BECOMES TOO LATE!!!! we must change by doing purification and then go to meet allah (swt) otherwise we might end up in the wrong place HELL! www.zawiyah.org

 Very nice words,Jazak Allah Khair...can i add something?;live your religion unless your life will be your religion...how was it?

fanaofallah wrote: brother suleyman read what i wrote under general disscusion in reply to your request!

 brother,i have read your respond;bu sure of that...wa salaam...

Suleyman wrote:    bu sure of that...wa salaam...

assalamualicum brother what do you mean by this? what does bu mean?

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fanaofallah wrote: Suleyman wrote:    bu sure of that...wa salaam... assalamualicum brother what do you mean by this? what does bu mean?

,Aleykum Selam ve Rahmetullahi ve Berakatuh brother Fan-of-Allah,

 brother,;it means that i made an grammar mistake......bu means be!...i re-write the words:

be sure of that...wa salaam...

assalamualicum brother what do you mean by "be sure of that"

please explain furthur>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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