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Posted By: Tony7
Subject: Lost
Date Posted: 15 March 2018 at 2:08am

Hi all! I am or was a Muslim but slowly and slowly feel like losing my faith. Why? How come Allah will send some people to heaven just cause of kalimah but a Jew or a Christian or atheist who spent their entire life in suffering to help others will go to hell?
Doesn't make sense

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Posted By: asep garut
Date Posted: 19 March 2018 at 5:13pm

Tony7 wrote:

Hi all! I am or was a Muslim but slowly and slowly feel like losing my faith. Why? How come Allah will send some people to heaven just cause of kalimah but a Jew or a Christian or atheist who spent their entire life in suffering to help others will go to hell?
Doesn't make sense

Hi Tony7,

All humans who worship the one God (Tauheed) and truly follow the teachings of God's Apostles, then they will enter heaven (Qur'an 21:92), because all the Apostles worship and submit only to Allah. (Islam means surrender to Allah). So this makes sense.

Posted By: Rabiatudarma
Date Posted: 20 March 2018 at 6:58am

Because as we know Islam is the true Religion, Alhamdulillah so those that followed the true teachings without associating Allah With anyone else will go to heaven and will be rewarded abundantly.likewise for those that worship other than Allah SWT will be punished nd will go to hell. Allah Is Al karim(The generous one). Jazakallahu khayran

Posted By: Tim the plumber
Date Posted: 21 March 2018 at 1:35am

Rabiatudarma wrote:

Because as we know Islam is the true Religion, Alhamdulillah so those that followed the true teachings without associating Allah With anyone else will go to heaven and will be rewarded abundantly.likewise for those that worship other than Allah SWT will be punished nd will go to hell. Allah Is Al karim(The generous one). Jazakallahu khayran

Does not sound generous to me.

Sounds like somebody/thing that is very needey of attention.

Posted By: asep garut
Date Posted: 21 March 2018 at 4:01pm

Tim the plumber wrote:

Does not sound generous to me.

Sounds like somebody/thing that is very needey of attention.

That is not like what you mean, but it is actually God's word for anyone who wants to get salvation in the hereafter.

Posted By: Tim the plumber
Date Posted: 22 March 2018 at 1:53am

asep garut wrote:

Tim the plumber wrote:

Does not sound generous to me.

Sounds like somebody/thing that is very needey of attention.

That is not like what you mean, but it is actually God's word for anyone who wants to get salvation in the hereafter.

Yes, and my point that this God thing sounds very needey. Not balanced. Not fair etc.

Posted By: asep garut
Date Posted: 26 March 2018 at 4:26pm

Tim the plumber,
What or who do you mean "Not balanced. Not fair etc."

Posted By: Tim the plumber
Date Posted: 26 March 2018 at 11:57pm

asep garut wrote:

Tim the plumber,
What or who do you mean "Not balanced. Not fair etc."

My assesment of the personality you describe.

I would not be impressed with a person who demanded I unquestionably loved them without good reason other than the promise of a reward for me. Promises are easy. I respect those who have demonstrated their good character with deeds not just empty hype.

Posted By: NABA
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 6:54am

Good question tony7 I explain you in this way suppose you have your parents who are old and they cough frequently but you don't listen to them nor respect them but you do charity,you do work that benefit mankind but you don't serve your parents who raised you,who took care of you,your mother carry you for 9 months but you disrespect her in fact you deny their Parenthood,in most cases parents will curse you and if possible may even kill you,but Allah is way above all,he created you,he took care of you when you were nothing,he was responsible for you to come to this world safely,he is responsible for your existence,so how a person can reject Allah who had given innumerable blessings, that's why those who worship other than Allah or those who deny him,hell is final abode for them.

Posted By: Tim the plumber
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 2:41pm

NABA wrote:

Good question tony7 I explain you in this way suppose you have your parents who are old and they cough frequently but you don't listen to them nor respect them but you do charity,you do work that benefit mankind but you don't serve your parents who raised you,who took care of you,your mother carry you for 9 months but you disrespect her in fact you deny their Parenthood,in most cases parents will curse you and if possible may even kill you,but Allah is way above all,he created you,he took care of you when you were nothing,he was responsible for you to come to this world safely,he is responsible for your existence,so how a person can reject Allah who had given innumerable blessings, that's why those who worship other than Allah or those who deny him,hell is final abode for them.

If I substitute some other god in that for Allah, say, er... Wodin, what evidence do you have that your version is more credible than the Norse gods?

I agree that the Norse (Viking) gods were made up drivel but how to you support your particular god being superiour?

Posted By: asep garut
Date Posted: 29 March 2018 at 5:43pm

Tim the plumber wrote:

asep garut wrote:

Tim the plumber,
What or who do you mean "Not balanced. Not fair etc."

You are right, God also commands us to do something good toward others, because He is the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.

I don't demand anyone to follow my will because it is forbidden by Allah, but I am only ordered by Him to convey His command with good and wisdom without any impression of being forced.

I do not think that I am the best or the most righteous person because when a person has such thoughts he has forgotten that he has a lot of weaknesses, and behind it all there is the Most Knowing about who I am, even all human beings.

I am very aware that, actually I am from where, what should I do in this world, and where I am going to end.