I won't give this subject a 'Bismillah' because such statements shouldn't be made using God's name especially when there is frustration involved. It is apparent to me that any postings here which criticizes the elite class in our Ummah is avoided thus the closing of my topic.
There are obvious problems in our society which should be addressed however to address those problems through the tunnel of criticism risk being silenced. As did many philosophers such as Averroes who was casted out by his own brethren in Islam for having a rational view and so have other Muslims before him.
I don't see this as a type of dialetical matyrdom, but I do see the actions of some moderators disturbing. What is more disturbing is that you brother Rami (yes I'm singling you out since you single us so-called CONVERTS out) would make a lasting remarks as "The audacity of some converts."
First and foremost the post that I originally made I admit was rushed because I wanted to briefly post some food for thought however when my day was done I planned to come back on IC and follow up with more postings that backed up my position. Brother you made mention in your PM that such subjects were discussed before. How Hypocritical are you all! Obviously the discussion and bashing of the U.S is never old and tiresome yet discussing the mutilation of women is all of a sudden tiresome? Oh wait you mean the discussion of converts is tiresome and old and was discussed before?
Regardless what subject is considered tiresome you have no right to close the topic especially if I haven't violated anything. Yet you can make such ignorant and remarkably shocking comments as saying "the audacity of some converts." You claim that I'm fairly new to Islam. I have been a so-called convert for 6 years now since 2000 however as the Hadith say, we are all born Muslim. All humans. Therefore the sense of one reverting back to their primordial faith one is thus not new spiritually to the faith(Islam).
Your lack of reason in closing the discussion without a counter argument, is a weakness on your part. Your lack of any counter dialectical argumenet shows the true problem of our society. People like you and those that think like you deserve to be personally criticized. Again I have no problem with you disagreeing with what I say and counter arguing what I say, I call that a healthy argument, but the problem I do have with you is making lasting statements such as that.
You may not see a problem with that but I do, but then again you and those who think like you and some Jews that think like your class have this innate belief of a "right to Islam" in the sense that you are of an elite class and thus chosen in the sense. You may not personally think like that but your words reflect a type of action that I've seen in a lot of Muslims. Especially migrant ones.
Brother if I can make a suggestion to you from now on treat me like an atheistic non-muslim, as you have talked to me anyway. From your last comment I sincerely have no respect for you as you have disrespected me the highest that any Muslim has. I can sincerely with my heart declare that you are no brother to me and since you were not man enough to PM me on the reasons why my topic was closed and show me respect in that manner I too will not show you respect in that manner.
Also, how do you know any of us is not a scholar? Or perhaps a potential scholar? By what we say? Unlike you brother I'm not a slave to a Sheykh or some pitiful sect like Shias and Sunnis or do I kiss buildings because my Fiqh says so. I am a Muslim who bows to Allah the Artisan of our universe. I assume my comments here would be silenced since most of the moderators here cannot take constructive criticism with the exception of two people: Sister Khadija and Sister Nausheen I hold these two exempt from my fury.......
Brother Rami I don't know if you're older than me but perhaps you are but I suggest finding yourself spiritually and know that you can't just talk to any man like that.. Especially a Muslim brother such as myself because I see no distinction in any of us save our deeds. I feel in this thread I have every right to be upset, not because of the closing of my comment but because of your last comment. Regardless how long I've been in Islam that is not important. You should be man enough to tell me privately that what I said is generally disagreeable and back your comments up with some statistics!
Since you cannot be man enough to do either, or show me that respect how can I respond to you in a respectful manner? I pray to Allah for the wisdom you solely deserve because you, mister, are thinking like these extremist who I am trained to fight against..........I suggest you find yourself spiritually brother.....
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