Assalamu Alaikum
Angela wrote:
I am already done, have some respect instead of insolently dare to tell me what to do.
All she did was ask nicely, Community.....if you want people to be nice and engage you with respect, you too must give respect back.
That is something earned, not just given. |
Community wrote:
Yes i know, but i had patience with her in the past already and not only in the other thread but a while back, now it was my time to set something straight. |
Community wrote:
I disagree look at what she sees as a basis of telling me that i should take it somewhere else. "this is not a debate about the obligatory nature of wearing a beard. If you would like to discuss that, I beseech you to start another thread."
This was not what i was debating at all, nor did i wish to debate it. I said what i had to say and was done, no need for this irrelevant comment. |
Community wrote:
She basically implies wearing a beard is obligatory and then tells ME to discuss it in another thread? what lunacy is this? |
The above quotes are from Brother Imam�s thread about his dream but I don�t want to add to the derailing of his thread by continuing there. So, here goes.
Brother Community, I am sorry that you feel as if you have had patience with me in the past over issues you had with me that you failed to point out to me. However, I am not a mind reader. I am not opposed to others pointing out my errors especially if they feel I have treated them unjustly. Can you tell me how your remark that I was insolent to you in Brother Imam�s thread was a means to �set something straight�? Things are only set straight when people are willing to be clear about what the problem is. It is obvious by what you said to Sister Angela that you feel I have cause you harm in the past; however, I was not away of that. Are you using the past (one I was not even away of) to justify your aggression towards me now? Is that fair? Or is that just a way to get the heat off you that Sister Angela put on you by pointing our your error?
I think you want to find a means to justify you response to my simple please not to derail Brother Imam�s thread. You go on to say you are right about my rudeness, that I was falsely accusing you of something, and point out that you were not trying to debate the issue of the obligatory nature of wearing a beard. You even go as far as to accuse me of implying that wearing a beard in Islam is obligatory. I�m sorry but I in no way shape or form implied that. Regardless of its �obligatory� status (meaning is or is not and not that it is), the fact is that many Muslims debate that issue and as such, since you brought up the issue of its (a beard�s) status in Islam by stating what you said in the quote below, it was and issue that drew attention away from Brother Imam�s request for help regarding his dream.
Community wrote:
The only time Allah swt mentions the beard in the koran is when Mosa the peace is upon him came back to his people and they have started worshipping the golden calf when he was gone, Haroon alayhi assalaam said to Mosa his brother, "do not take me by the beard" because he saw Mosa was angry at his people for this idolworship and he feared Mosa would hold him responisble, now if the beard is such an epitome of faith then why is the only reference to it in the koran like this?
They wear a beard thinking that is what makes them right but they will come to know. |
Brother Community, I beseech you to not only reconsider you judgment of me regarding the issue I brought forth about Brother Imam�s thread but to speak to me openly if you feel I wronged you in the past. How can I ask for your forgiveness if I don�t even know I did something wrong? I am not perfect. I know I am not always the perfect example of patients and that I am prone to error just as others are. I even appreciated and ask Allah to bless those that point out my errors because I do not want to be in error or to cause anyone, especially my brothers and sister in Islam, harm of any kind. So, if I have done something to harm you in the past I truly am sorry; however, I would like to know what I did so that I can strive to not do it again in the future.
Jazak Allah Khair
Sister Khadija
------------- Say: 'My prayer and my rites, my living and my dying, are for Allah alone, the Lord of all the worlds. (Qur'an, 6:162)
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