Sudan - Meriam Yehya Ibrahim Ishag
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Topic: Sudan - Meriam Yehya Ibrahim Ishag
Posted By: Caringheart
Subject: Sudan - Meriam Yehya Ibrahim Ishag
Date Posted: 19 May 2014 at 11:03pm
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Sentenced to hang for apostasy. I would like to hear what muslims here say about this. Is it right for this woman to be killed... for her children to be deprived of their mother... for a legitimate, dedicated, devoted, husband and father, to be deprived of his wife and his children? She
is Sudanese, and is only following the religion she was raised in. Her
mother is a Christian, her father a Muslim, but was absent for most of
her life. Father walked out, so why should his religion of choice, or birth, play any part, exert any right or claim over this adult child? This woman is a physician, someone who contributes good to the community. Her husband is a physician... also contributes good to the community. Does it make sense for her to be killed for such reasons? Is this islam? If it is not islam as you know it and support it, then what must be done to change things? Do you support such actions? Does it make sense to support such actions? Shukran and salaam. ------------- Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
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Posted By: Abu Loren
Date Posted: 20 May 2014 at 2:36am
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The world has gone MAD!
I just wish that these people would look into her background without condemning her as acting as judge, jury and executioner. Even if she was a practicing Muslim woman there is no evidence in the Qur'an or the Sunnah that a person who leaves Islam should be killed. They rely on a 'weak' Hadith which is not enough to take the life of another human being. |
Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 20 May 2014 at 11:17am
Greetings Abu Loren, Glad to know that you feel as I do. asalaam, CH ------------- Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
Abu Loren wrote:Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 31 May 2014 at 11:46am
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�Apostasy,� by its very definition, is inherently contradictory to �freedom of beliefs.� Treason is another matter... a separate matter, and should be separate from religion and religious choice. Unbelievably, Sudan states, �This case remains a legal issue and not a religious or a political one.� A conviction and sentence under Shariah Law for �apostasy� is nothing but religious. Faced with this reality, Sudan spins a web of lies and deception to cover its diabolical deed. The official government statement notes, �It is important to emphasize that freedom of choice is the cornerstone of both Islam and Christianity.� Yet, for Meriam�s �choice� to marry a Christian man, she is to be tortured with 100 lashes. For her �choice� to be a Christian, she is to be hung. The statement goes on to proclaim that �Sudanese Judges are qualified and dignified.� There is nothing dignified about imprisoning two innocent babies while their mother is shackled in the cell with them. There is nothing dignified about killing a woman for embracing her faith. �It is unwise and dangerous to politicize the issue at hand to spur religious tension between the two peaceful faiths with similar foundations,� Sudan asserts. What?! The very fact that it is a judicial pronouncement makes it a source of religious tension. There is nothing �peaceful� about hanging a woman for her faith. It is Sudan and not the world that spurred �religious tension� by imposing a death sentence based on religious beliefs. One thing is for certain: Sudan is listening to the public outcry. It is doing anything in its power, spreading any deception it can, to silence the world. Sudan must release Meriam and her two American children. More than 275,000 people have raised their voice to demand their freedom. Join by signing the petition at http://www.BeHeardProject.com - BeHeardProject.com . The world is watching. A woman�s life hangs in the balance. * text in blue is my thoughts, my reactions, my words. ------------- Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 31 May 2014 at 11:50am
Greetings Abu Loren, Will you sign the petition to save her life for the sake of her children, and her husband, who I understand is in a wheelchair due to having MS? Her husband and her children need her, as the community also needs its physicians. asalaam, Caringheart ------------- Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 31 May 2014 at 12:24pm
| http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27651483 |
Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 31 May 2014 at 12:29pm
Thank you abuayisha.  I had not seen this latest. Very good and encouraging to know.asalaam, Caringheart ------------- Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 02 June 2014 at 10:27am
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Not unexpected, so disappointing, but no surprise... http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/02/sudan-retracts-claim-meriam-ibrahim-freed - http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/02/sudan-retracts-claim-meriam-ibrahim-freed There have been breaking developments in Meriam Ibrahim's death penalty case over the weekend. First, a senior Sudanese official stated that Sudan was set "to free" Meriam. Now, Sudan is retracting that statement, saying instead that it will wait for a court to rule on her appeal. There is no doubt Sudan is trying to stop the growing wave of international pressure. As her attorneys in Sudan said, "It's a statement to silence the international media. This is what the government does." We must not be silenced. Participate in redoubling efforts around the globe. If we let up, Meriam will be executed and a husband and children, will be left without a wife and mother, and children with only a disabled father to care for them. Don't be silenced. Be heard. http://click.email.aclj.org/?qs=9ab99eff7417a8fffc257d530dc9cd8d3f790261fb48385fde90ce51493fb0bbf006c1df4299e01d - Demand Meriam's Freedom. Sign the Petition Today. asalaam, I pray you will take a stand against injustice.Caringheart ------------- Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 23 June 2014 at 3:23pm
God does, and is, answering prayer. Have been praying for her, her husband, and her children daily. Today I saw this news. Let's hope this time it sticks and continue in prayer that she is safe once released."Praise the Lord - Meriam Yehya Ibrahim is FREE!!!Now if only we could see similar results for Pastor Saeed, imprisoned in Iran for years now, for his faith. ------------- Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 24 June 2014 at 12:27pm
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Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 24 June 2014 at 12:56pm
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..free again
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27998881 |
Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 24 June 2014 at 1:27pm
Oh my gosh, it's just crazy, isn't it? ------------- Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 24 June 2014 at 2:42pm
| the proverbial 'it ain't over till it's over'. |
Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 25 June 2014 at 12:27pm
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Now, she's being charged with fraud in her papers for trying to leave the country? I have to ask myself, why would Sudan care? Why not just let her leave? Sounds to me like, as was put forth, all charges from the beginning are trumped charges... but for what? Why? I say... the country of Sudan seems schizophrenic... mentally sick. Seems to me they want to keep her there until she can be killed. ------------- Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 25 June 2014 at 1:54pm
| I would assume the fraud charge can be quickly cleared up with payment of a fine... |
Posted By: MANALAGARADBA
Date Posted: 28 June 2014 at 5:17pm
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On the authority of Ibn Mas'ood (may Allah be pleased with him) who said : The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said:
It is not permissible to spill the blood of a Muslim except in three [instances] : the married person who commits adultery, a life for a life, and the one who forsakes his religion and separates from the community. Related by Bukhari & Muslim. |
Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 30 June 2014 at 6:15pm
Greetings MANALAGARADBA, ... and there's nothing in this to make you question whether this is the Word of the Creator, or the justice of a loving Creator? Did you read through the whole thread? asalaam. ------------- Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 20 October 2014 at 11:34pm
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Thankfully mercy prevailed and Miriam Ibrihim was freed. Now we turn to Pakistan where: A Christian mom has been sentenced to death in Pakistan for her faith.To me this is oppression of the worst kind.... to tell people what they must believe... to say they may not think for themselves or have opinions of their own... that they must be careful in everything they might say because you never know who is listening. How does a mother teach her child her faith if she can not speak? If everything she says is to be censored? Who could live like that? Can a muslim imagine living in a nation where they must be careful never to mention Muhammad? It would be the same kind of tyranny. What if every country were to have laws that say you can never question the leader... would this be acceptable, to take away the right to free-thinking? This would be oppression in favor of tyranny. To insist no one question, or express thoughts of their own, is to pave the way for tyrants. Prayers are needed for the mercy of God for Asia Bibi, her children, and her family. ------------- Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 06 November 2014 at 11:13pm
------------- Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |