What is luck
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Topic: What is luck
Posted By: NABA
Subject: What is luck
Date Posted: 23 March 2013 at 9:29am
| Assalamalecum WA rehmatullahi WA barakhatahu.there is a great misconception about luck.so many people depend only on so called luck and never do hard work,instead they believe in those frauds that claim to c future.but Allah clearly mentions in Surah Al Ra'ad ch 13 v 11 Allah will not change the situations of those who do not want to change themselves.Allah mentions the importance of hard work,in Surah Al Ankaboot ch 29 v 69-if U strive in way of Allah,Allah will open pathway for U.so believe in Allah and do hard work,as our beloved Prophet Muhammad S.A.W(pbuh) said believe in Allah but also tie ur camel.Allahfiz |
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Posted By: Nemart
Date Posted: 24 March 2013 at 8:18am
| Dont know exactly what luck is. But sometimes it plays an impotant role in life |
Posted By: NABA
Date Posted: 24 March 2013 at 9:58am
| No,there is nothing like luck,its Allah who is behind everything,as mentioned in Surah Al Imran ch 3 v 54-Allah is the best planner,in Surah Al Imran ch 3 v 160-if Allah is with u nobody can foresake you and if Allah foresakes u there is who that will save u. |
Posted By: W.S.
Date Posted: 25 March 2013 at 11:55am
And who are these people? What frauds are you talking about?
What about people who don't believe in God and change their situations through hard work, with the help of friends etc.? An atheist can work himself up in a company, win the lottery or quit doing drugs.
Working hard is seen as worth aiming at in most of the world, isn't it?
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NABA wrote:Posted By: NABA
Date Posted: 26 March 2013 at 9:32am
| these frauds are those who claim to predict future by watching your hands or through signs etc.as far as an athiest is concern look the real reward we will get in the hereafter,there are so many people who who do wrong things and lead a peaceful life and also die peacefully,it doesn't mean that their luck was good,Allah will give them their result in hereafter because as mentioned in Surah An Nisa ch 4 v 40-Allah is never unjust even in the least degree.and when U do hard work U may not get result in this world but U will get reward in hereafter,because it is mentioned in Surah Al Asra ch 103 v 1-3-Allah says man is in state of loss except those who follow four things-having faith,doing good deeds,resorting people to truth(Dawaah),resorting people to hard work and patience.the fourth thing can b done only by setting example I.e doing hard work yourself and b patient.Allahfiz |
Posted By: W.S.
Date Posted: 27 March 2013 at 8:16am
So this common is India? I didn't know.
That's what a believing Muslim thinks, yes. What "wrong things" are you referring to?
Then why do so much misery befall so many innocent people around the world?
NABA, what do you think of non-Muslims in general? Do you know any?
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Posted By: NABA
Date Posted: 28 March 2013 at 7:20am
| yes in India it is very common for eg they say if u change ur birthday from 13 to 14th then u will b successful etc,there are infinite examples.wrong things such as robbery,cheating,rape,unfair rules by government for eg selection in institutes on the basis of caste system which is forbidden in Islam.Surah An Nisa ch 4 v 40,refers that Allah will not b unjust on judgement day,because those innocent people who are suffering are serving a test as mentioned in Surah Al Mulk ch 67 v 2-Allah has created life and death to test us.this life is a test for hereafter.i didn't understand ur last question related to this topic. |
Posted By: W.S.
Date Posted: 28 March 2013 at 9:35am
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I somehow got the impression that you were referring to non-Muslims when you wrote that so many peolpe do this and that. Maybe you were referring to other Muslims? There are good people and there are bad people of all faiths. As much as I dislike the caste system, I read that over 80 % of the Indian population is Hindu.
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Posted By: NABA
Date Posted: 30 March 2013 at 11:27pm
| no I m not referring to non Muslims.what is 786?.so many Muslims consider 786 as lucky,but there is no verse regarding this number in Qur'an and hadith.i hate caste system because in surah Al Imran ch 3 v 103-Allah says that he had provide a rope(Qur'an) and we have to hold it together.in Surah Al Anam ch 6 v 159-Allah is addressing to prophet Muhammad S.A.W to cut off terms with those who make castes,Allah will punish them in hereafter.these verses signifies not to make castes. |
Posted By: W.S.
Date Posted: 31 March 2013 at 3:02am
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If some people consider that number lucky I don't see any harm in it. Maybe they don't want to be religious robots who are unable to think outside of the box. And if the Quran advocated the caste system, then I suppose you'd love it (?).
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Posted By: NABA
Date Posted: 04 April 2013 at 12:43am
| every unbeliever will enter hell.this is mentioned in Surah Al Qaf ch 50 v 24,my job here in this forum is to convey message of Qur'an.u say religious robot I say them as believer.moreover don't think about if and buts,because it is mentioned in surah Al nahl ch 16 v 61,If Allah would want he could have punish us even for small sins we do,this shows how merciful he is,so don't talk about if in relation to Qur'an.in this forum I implement the following verse-Surah Al Ghaashiyah ch 88 v 21-22-that our job is to convey the message Its Allah who will bring the change in the people. |
Posted By: W.S.
Date Posted: 04 April 2013 at 4:04am
Where's the mercy in that? If a person doesn't believe it's because God has sealed that person's heart, isn't that so? Maybe you'd like to have faith but just don't.
Which brings me to one of my biggest problems with Islam: the question of certainty. In Islam, as I understand it, you have to be certain, but how can you be certain about something you couldn't possibly know? You can't! Claiming that you are right and everyone else (atheists and people of other religions) are wrong, is nothing but pure arrogance, which in turn is a sin or at least a very objectionable thing in Islam.
I don't see what that has to do with it. It's not a crime to ask questions and to talk.
Yes, that's what we should do! We should ask questions, ponder, talk, discuss. The Quran tells you to think, doesn't it? Islam should not be reduced to an ideology of fear, silence and blind obedience. You may have heard of ijtihad? Islam's own tradition of dissenting, reasoning and reinterpreting. I'm not saying I have the answer as to how this should be done, but I have a feeling that it needs to happen.
Convey all you want! You're as free to refer to chapters and verses as I am to question them.
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Posted By: NABA
Date Posted: 04 April 2013 at 8:42am
| look, Allah has given us free will to worship or not to worship him.U can't say Allah has sealed one's heart,as far as certainty is concerned,if one implements the verses of Qur'an in his life,he will be the most loveable person on earth.for eg it is mentioned in Surah Al Maidah ch 5 v 90-says we should not drink alcohol or intoxicants,if one practice this he will b free from diseases.mentioned in surah Al hujurat ch 49 v 11-12-backbiting is forbidden,if one practice this there will be less chances of quarrel.i m not claiming that I m right others are wrong.moreover I m impressed with ur view that yes U should ask questions.so your views are always welcomed brother. |
Posted By: W.S.
Date Posted: 06 April 2013 at 11:02am
I forget where I read that exactly, I'll have to get back to you on that one. However, I'm pretty sure the Quran says that God guides who he wants and that not everyone receives his guidance.
I'm sure that some people manage to do this.
If only that were true. |
Posted By: nospam001
Date Posted: 06 April 2013 at 3:16pm
------------- God has the right to remain silent. For His advocates, however, each resigned shrug is a missed opportunity to win new converts. |
Posted By: W.S.
Date Posted: 07 April 2013 at 3:02am
Yup! I've been reading posts. Both interesting and entertaining at times. It's frustrating when believers make it sound as if you can choose to believe in God. You either believe or you don't! It's not like you can decide to start believing in God and accept the Quran as the word of God (or whichever religion might be in question), because that would be deluding yourself. Whether one believes in God or not obviously has to do with psychological and social reasons.
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Posted By: nospam001
Date Posted: 07 April 2013 at 4:11pm
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�The Electric Monk was a labour-saving device, like a dishwasher or a video recorder... Electric Monks believed things for you, thus saving you what was becoming an increasingly onerous task, that of believing all the things the world expected you to believe.� ------------- God has the right to remain silent. For His advocates, however, each resigned shrug is a missed opportunity to win new converts. |
Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 21 April 2013 at 3:20am
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Superstition is fairly common among nonbelievers and believers of all religions alike. It's a worldwide phenomenon. The best medicine against it is higher education and endorsing the values of the Age of Enlightenment. Luck is the occurrence of an unlikely event. Suppose you got 2 dice and you roll them once. You win when you throw 6 and 6. So when you do, you are lucky, because the likelihood is only 1/36. ------------- A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt |
Posted By: NABA
Date Posted: 22 April 2013 at 7:49am
| @matt Browne,no that's not luck its Allah who is behind this,as it is said even a leaf can't fall without the permission of Allah. |
Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 24 April 2013 at 6:59am
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Einstein was wrong. Allah does play dice. Otherwise we can't explain quantum mechanics. God built probabilities into his natural laws. ------------- A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt |
Posted By: NABA
Date Posted: 25 April 2013 at 9:35am
| it was Allah who give wisdom,because we all know Einstein was a below average student in fact he was one of the most weak students in his classroom.if he could have believe in his school grades he could have never become what he was,as rightly said Allah is the best planner(Surah Al Imran ch 3 v 54). |
Posted By: W.S.
Date Posted: 26 April 2013 at 1:59am
How do you figure that?
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Posted By: NABA
Date Posted: 26 April 2013 at 9:04am
| because there was a chapter in my English books in which Einstein ridicules about the education system,well the whole world knows that Einstein was below average student. |
Posted By: W.S.
Date Posted: 27 April 2013 at 2:13am
I just don't see what his school grades have to do with what he later accomplished.
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Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 28 April 2013 at 2:14am
Your English book got it all wrong. In Switzerland 6 is the best grade and 4 is still good. Many Americans think that 6 means F and 4 means D. Wrong! Einstein was an above average student. Einstein was a very good student, in fact, both in elementary school and high school. Look at his grade sheet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein#Early_life_and_education - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein#Early_life_and_education ------------- A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt |