Afghans want peace...
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Topic: Afghans want peace...
Posted By: honeto
Subject: Afghans want peace...
Date Posted: 29 November 2012 at 1:28pm
Afghans are sick of war, of occupation first by the Soviets, and now by the Nato lead foreign forces. This occupation has only increased misery to the lives of the people in that part of the world.
23 years of foreign occupation with the use of world's most destructive weapons have its toll on the people and land of Afghanistan. Why the world is complacent in this act of violence,that has took the lives of two to three million people, in particular those who declare themselves civilized. Why are they absent or quiet, as if they do not exist.
It is time that they come out of closet of fear, and raise their voices for the basic rights of Afghan people, the right to live.
Here is an Afghan's appeal to all:
%20 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT4oj1oPZ1M
Hasan
------------- The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 29 November 2012 at 5:13pm
I don't know that it is right to call it occupation. No one is trying to take the country away from the people. I think I can understand the desire of the people to no longer be living in wartime conditions... with soldiers with weapons roaming everywhere... but we must remember that this military is not just an outside military. The outsiders will be leaving. It is an outside military only there long enough to help the government to take control of its own land. I would say that it will still feel like occupation if soldiers continue to patrol even after the outsiders leave. Isn't that how it was under the taliban rule? So it really has little to do with outsiders being there or not but with its own government.
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Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 29 November 2012 at 8:36pm
"Because Barack Obama has run a generally hawkish foreign policy, his Republican opponents don't have a lot of daylight to exploit on that issue. But if they weren't so preoccupied with sounding tough, they could go after Obama's foolish decision to escalate the war in Afghanistan back in 2009, which remains his biggest foreign policy blunder to date."
http://walt.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/03/12/on_the_afghan_killings - http://walt.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/03/12/on_the_afghan_killings
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Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 30 November 2012 at 7:09am
It is grossly unfair to compare the NATO intervention with the Soviet occupation. Islamist terrorists based in Afghanistan murdered almost 3000 innocent people in the US.
------------- A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt
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Posted By: whitelion553
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 2:21am
Dear matt ,You must
know that muslems aren�t terrorists .we don�t accept that Taliban be muslem .because
our religion never says to us that we kill guiltless people .killing is Haram and our religion dont let us to kill guiltless and clean people.we are hate from
killing and murder and want peace .this terroristic group only want to show that muslems aren�t good .we are hate
from Taliban and all of enemies of Islam .Taliban is only a hyena .hyena to our
dear prophet to our dear religion, to all muslems and to Allah .they kill
muslems , too. Taliban is a hateful group that only wants to kill and there is not
any difference for him that kill muslems
or non-muslems. This mischief makings are
very dirty group .my friend never say that muslems or any other religion are
terrorists because this is not relate to their religion .its reason is their
mind and spirit .all of humans know that every one that can kill guiltless
people easily is a mental sick and worse than cruel animals because don�t use
from their brain ,they don�t have ability for distinguish bad works .an animal
is more emotion from this group. they don�t
want to accept the realities and justice
and cant see beauties of this world. They like to see that every thing is dark .we believe that they must be ashamed
from their villainy .all of humans were sad when hear the news of 11 September .may be one of the dead people be our friend
or our relative .we don�t want to see a die of a bird how we can kill the
humans??? now ,is it true we kill muslems in Islamic or non-Islamic countries
from this group? is it fair? every one and every country needs to peace and calm.
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Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 6:26am
I never said that all Muslims are terrorists. Out of the 1.5 billion there are about 100,000 militant Islamists and terrorists worldwide and about 150 million non-militant Islamists (they are not violent themselves, but approve of violence if asked). Which leaves 1.35 billion peaceful Muslims.
------------- A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt
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Posted By: whitelion553
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 9:37pm
When you
speak about muslems ,you must be cautious .because all of us are unite ,brother and
equal .
One for All &All for One
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Posted By: whitelion553
Date Posted: 06 December 2012 at 8:09am
Supreme Leader�s Inaugural Speech at the 16th Non-Aligned
Summit 30/08/2012
All praise belongs to Allah, the Lord of the Two Worlds, and may peace and
blessings be upon the greatest and trustworthy Messenger and on his pure
progeny, his select companions, and all the prophets and divine envoys.
The UN Security Council has an illogical, unjust and completely undemocratic
structure and mechanism. This is a flagrant form of dictatorship, which is
antiquated and obsolete and whose expiry date has passed. It is through abusing
this improper mechanism that America and its accomplices have managed to
disguise their bullying as noble concepts and impose it on the world. They
protect the interests of the West in the name of �human rights�. They interfere
militarily in other countries in the name of �democracy�. They target
defenseless people in villages and cities with their bombs and weapons in the
name of �combating terrorism�. From their perspective, humanity is divided into
first-, second- and third-class citizens. Human life is considered cheap in
Asia, Africa and Latin America, and expensive in America and Western Europe.
The security of America and Europe is considered important, while the security
of the rest of humanity is considered unimportant. Torture and assassination
are permissible and completely ignored if they are carried out by America, the
Zionists and their puppets. It does not trouble their conscience that they have
secret prisons in various places on different continents, in which defenseless
prisoners who have no legal representation and have not been tried in a court
of law are treated in the most hideous and detestable way. Good and evil are
defined in a completely one-sided and selective way. They impose their
interests on the nations of the world in the name of �international law�. They
impose their domineering and illegal demands in the name of �international
community�. Using their exclusive and organized media network, they disguise
their lies as the truth, their falsehood as true, and their oppression as
efforts to promote justice. In contrast, they brand as lies every true
statement that exposes their deceit and label every legitimate demand as
roguish.
this flawed and harmful situation cannot continue. Everybody has become tired
of this faulty international structure. The 99 percent movement of the American
people against the centers of wealth and power in America and the widespread
protests of the people in Western Europe against the economic policies of their
governments show that the people are losing their patience with this situation.
It is necessary to remedy this irrational situation. Firm, logical and
comprehensive bonds between member states of the Non-Aligned Movement can play
an important role in finding a remedy.
The Islamic Republic's successful experience in resistance against the bullying
and comprehensive pressures by America and its accomplices has firmly convinced
it that the resistance of a unified and firmly determined nation can overcome
all enmities and hostilities and open a glorious path to its lofty goals. The
comprehensive advances made by our country in the last two decades are facts
for all to see, as repeatedly attested by official international observers. All
this has happened under sanctions, economic pressures and propaganda campaigns
by networks affiliated with America and Zionism. The sanctions, which were
regarded as paralyzing by nonsensical commentators, not only did not and will
not paralyze us, but have made our steps steadier, elevated our resolve and
strengthened our confidence in the correctness of our analyses and the inborn
capacities of our nation. We have with our own eyes repeatedly witnessed divine
assistance in these challenges
international
peace and security are among the critical issues of today�s world and the
elimination of catastrophic weapons of mass destruction is an urgent necessity
and a universal demand. In today�s world, security is a shared need where there
is no room for discrimination. Those who stockpile their anti-human weapons in
their arsenals do not have the right to declare themselves as standard-bearers
of global security. Undoubtedly, this will not bring about security for
themselves either. It is most unfortunate to see that countries possessing the
largest nuclear arsenals have no serious and genuine intention of removing
these deadly weapons from their military doctrines and they still consider such
weapons as an instrument that dispels threats and as an important standard that
defines their political and international position. This conception needs to be
completely rejected and condemned.
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Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 06 December 2012 at 7:47pm
whitelion553 wrote:
When you
speak about muslems ,you must be cautious .because all of us are unite ,brother and
equal .
One for All &All for One
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Re: Unity An interesting note from earlier research that I came across today.
"Islam's history and nature is far too complex to be treated in a brief study. The very term Islam' is equivocal - its sects far exceed in variety and number the almost uncountable sects of Protestant Christianity. To speak indiscriminately of 'Muslims' as if all Muslims believed the same thing, or as if Islam and the Qur'an meant the same thing to all of them, is misleading." (http://jloughnan.tripod.com/3f_islam.htm)
An observation of my own; People can often be united when given a common enemy, but I do not see this as God's way. I see this as the devil's way.
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Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 06 December 2012 at 7:52pm
whitelion553 wrote:
international
peace and security are among the critical issues of today�s world and the
elimination of catastrophic weapons of mass destruction is an urgent necessity
and a universal demand.
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If you agree with the above statement then it is necessary to include Syria, with its stockpiles of chemical weapons.
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Posted By: whitelion553
Date Posted: 07 December 2012 at 7:11pm
When
we speak about an excellent nation or
religion or one person ,we must respect to them (ok) All of the humans are equal(it is fact)but they make their future from their acts and their behaviorsCaringheart
,you must search about ways
then
decide that which way is belong to Allah and which one is belong to devil (ok)
now
,your answer
I
believe that chemical weapons are hateful war
crime .this shameful crime is against humanity and it will caused bad
effects in the future generation ,too .our children wont forgive us if we use
from this weapons .we must reply to them and Allah. it is a threat for all
humans .it is a good reason for west countries such as America that attack to
other countries .it is their lie for invade to other countries .they did this sham
program for Afghanistan and Iraq too .their plea was annihilate terrorism but they invade to this countries
and did many terrors and crimes there wildly .they were terrorist and wanted to
kill the terrorists (it is very interesting)but we saw that they killed
guiltless people of there. And perished
their security and calm.
Right
of good living is belong to all people .white or black, man or woman, muslem or
non-muslem , poor or rich .all of them are equal .using of chemical weapons is
illicit for all nations (America and Israel must be act to this law
,too).effects of this weapons is very harmful and painful .its damages last
until moment of die. Dear friend ,we saw its effects and knew about them . we
are inform .we are very sad from seeing our dears conditions for Saddam `s
chemical weapons against nation of Iran (our dears defend from their nation,
their country, their believes, their children and family .they have many rights
upon us).we were very alone that time and no-country helped to our dear
country. But they support army of Iraq .we see this tragedy in Surya ,now. Iranians
were victims of this weapons .they were very guiltless and respectable nation. this caused that Iran became a strong
country (strong and independent) .thanks
Allah.
Chemical
patients cant breath easily .they usually breath by oxygen capsules. (some of them must
breath by capsule all of days)It depends to degree of their illness .they cant
use from fresh air like us or they cant go to walking by a capsule near them.
Living is more difficult for them and their respectful family. Their family
tolerant this condition and aren�t tired. this patients suffer from many
different illnesses in whole of
their bodies but tolerant it for their family and friends
and prefer to be silent .but all of doctors know its pain and their tolerance
is wonderful for them .they gave their health for their dear country .they are
patient that we be health, happy and live in security.
Dear
friend nation and government of Surya
are very respectful ,they are our dear brothers and sisters and we have reliance
to all of them. Their real nation
are very kind if some terrorists from other countries let to them .I believe
that this western and some Arabic countries
must reply to Allah for their crimes in our dear friend country (Surya).
These countries want to create
difference among Islamic countries. This countries must be ashamed from their
bad works and apologize from their nations .Surya never used from chemical
weapons but I can say certainly that Israel did this crime (OVER AND
OVER).reason of this wild programs is one thing ,this jealous countries are in
trouble (political ,economical, social and cultural problems )and for this they
want to divert their nations from their problems and strikes . remember this : 99%
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