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Topic: looking for viewpoints
Posted By: Caringheart
Subject: looking for viewpoints
Date Posted: 04 October 2012 at 10:12pm
I've just watched Searching for The Roots of 9/11, from the Discovery Channel, with middle east expert and Pulitzer-prize winning journalist Thomas L. Friedman.  It was made in 2004, so quite interesting to see how things have developed since.
I would love if anyone could watch and would love to hear their feedback about it.  (It's less than an hour long)
My favorite part was the closing statement made by the Egyptian playwright, Ali Salem, at the end and the wonderful way he smiled as he spoke.
Second favorite was seeing the people in worship in the Mosque in Egypt (before the political activists came in).



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Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 05 October 2012 at 6:49am
http://mondoweiss.net/2011/11/golden-oldies-tom-friedman-telling-an-arab-society-to-suck-on-this.html - http://mondoweiss.net/2011/11/golden-oldies-tom-friedman-telling-an-arab-society-to-suck-on-this.html


Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 05 October 2012 at 10:29am
Abuayisha,
Forgive me, but that link hardly sounds worth looking at. Disapprove
 
In the video I watched he was very good about allowing the people of Qatar, Bahrain, and Egypt to express exactly how it was they were feeling towards America.


Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 05 October 2012 at 11:18am

https://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/07/25-4 - https://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/07/25-4



Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 05 October 2012 at 11:37am
Originally posted by abuayisha abuayisha wrote:

https://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/07/25-4 - https://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/07/25-4

 
Greetings Abuayisha,
I took a look at this link...
but I am asking people to go back in time and take a look at what the people in Qatar, Bahrain, and Egypt had to contribute to the discussion.  This is what the video I shared is about... the viewpoints of the people living in the mid-east.
Salaam,
Caringheart Smile


Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 05 October 2012 at 12:11pm
http://dissidentvoice.org/2011/12/mcjournalism-the-unbearable-lightness-of-thomas-friedman/ -


Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 05 October 2012 at 12:24pm
So do you discredit productions made by the Discovery channel too?  *scratches head
 
 
Please just watch the video before making judgements.  It is less than an hour of time.   I welcome all views and input from anyone who has actually watched instead of pre-judging.


Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 05 October 2012 at 2:44pm
http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/other-shows/videos/assignment-discovery-spain-islam.htm -


Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 05 October 2012 at 4:59pm
Ah, yes, I've watched a few programs on Islam in Spain.  One I believe was called the Moors of Spain.  Don't know if either program I watched was Discovery channel or not.

Do you approve, or not approve, of the one that you are sharing at the link above?


Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 08 October 2012 at 9:50pm
Ok, so tonight I watched Charlie Rose, as I often do.  He was interviewing Thomas L. Friedman.  Did anyone happen to catch this?  If not I would also like to suggest it.  I do not understand the arguments just because of the name of this man.  Had I not mentioned his name would anyone have watched the video I asked about in order to share their viewpoints?  I find Thomas L. Friedman to be quite fair minded, rational, and well versed... in fact he is pretty much pro-mid-eastern.
If you disagree please watch what I've asked and tell me why you disagree.  I'd really like to know.
Thanks.


Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 13 October 2012 at 3:56pm
If anyone has watched, or will watch, The Road to 9/11, also put out by PBS,   
Tell me what you agree or disagree with.
Thanks.


Posted By: Ron Webb
Date Posted: 13 October 2012 at 4:23pm
Caringheart, I would like to watch the program, but where do I find it?  Is it viewable online? Can you provide a link?

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Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect.


Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 13 October 2012 at 9:16pm
Originally posted by Ron Webb Ron Webb wrote:

Caringheart, I would like to watch the program, but where do I find it?  Is it viewable online? Can you provide a link?


Hi Ron,

I got it through Netflix... Any chance you have Netflix?  If not I imagine it would be available through any video store or even library... Well, I guess that depends on where you live.  I don't know if it might be available some other way online.  My computer is no good with streaming media... too old.  You could check PBS.org.  Smile


Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 14 October 2012 at 7:05am

Biased

This documentary has many subtle and not-so-subtle biases that really hinder its overall quality and usefulness as a teaching tool. It is presented almost completely from a pro-Western, pro-Israel perspective, with no mention of the events in Iran in 1954, the Suez in 1956, or the plight of the Palestinian people since 1948 (except to place the blame solely on Arab regimes), among other problems. It does however tightly cover quite a bit of the 20th century Middle East political experience, and features various prominent commentators like Bernard Lewis, Fareed Zakaria, and Thomas Friedman, and the production quality is of high value. You just have to learn to ignore the ominous, quasi-satanic music playing in the background when Nasser is mentioned, and the inspiring trumpet blasts of freedom and human decency when the story moves on to Israel. So long as this isn't the only source you consult in your efforts to understand the "road to 9/11" then it is worthwhile in spite of its flaws.

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A3BJ2OSSFS1HKE/ref=cm_cr_pr_pdp - - Douglas M. Penhallegon "History Teacher"  (Pittsburgh, PA)



Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 14 October 2012 at 7:04pm
I am interested only in personal opinions.


For every negative review I am sure I could provide a positive review if that is what I was looking for.

I did not notice any
"ominous, quasi-satanic music playing in the background when Nasser is mentioned,"
or any
"inspiring trumpet blasts of freedom and human decency when the story moves on to Israel."

I will watch again but would have to say if it was not noticed the first time then it obviously is/was of little effect. 

I formed little to no opinion of Nasser but only considered it informative regarding events that took place in Egypt.



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