THE BIBLE FORETELLS MUHAMMAD�S WORK?
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Topic: THE BIBLE FORETELLS MUHAMMAD�S WORK?
Posted By: Shibboleth
Subject: THE BIBLE FORETELLS MUHAMMAD�S WORK?
Date Posted: 06 August 2009 at 4:52pm
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Among
other arguments that Muslim scribes use to prove the inspiration of the Quran
is that Muhammad and his work were foretold in the Bible. According to a
footnote on Sura 46:10, Ali, (n.4783) �in the Quran and its Prophet
[is found] a true confirmation of the previous scriptures . . . Islam
[being] a fulfillment of the revelation of Moses himself! (See Deut. XVIII,
18-19)� But
how could that be? At Mount Sinai Jehovah told Moses: �I will raise them up a
prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee; and I will put my words in
his mouth, and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it
shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he
shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.��Deut. 18:15-19, AS. You do believe in the Tevrat, or
Hebrew Scriptures, correct?
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Posted By: Friendship
Date Posted: 08 August 2009 at 3:20pm
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Assalamu alikum. Shibboleth posted: Certainly it cannot be justly argued that Muhammad, who was a descendant of Ishmael, was of Moses� brothers. Nor did Muhammad speak in the name of Jehovah God, as did Moses. Response: Muhammad was a cousin to the them. Muhammad Rasulullah told the Children of Israel all what they could remember and those they have forgotten about their Prophets, like the story of Joseph, Zul-qarnain, the Cave sleepers. Please read the history of the holy Apostle and his encounter with the Children of Israel in Madina. They never denied what they heard from the holy Apostle but only that they refused to follow his practice. Let our brothers the Children of Israel please confirm this story:-< ="Content-" content="text/; charset=utf-8">< name="ProgId" content="Word.">< name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 12">< name="Originator" content="Microsoft Word 12"><> The following conversations that took place between Huyayy bin Akhţāb
(the father of Safiya, the Jewish wife of the Holy Apostle) and her uncle Ashraf
bin Akhţāb was reported by her: Ashraf (Uncle): Is he really the same Prophet about whom
there occurred prophesies in our books? Huyayy (Father):
By God, (Allāh) he is the same. Uncle: Are you sure of it? Father:
Yes. Uncle: Then what is your intention? Father:
I will oppose him as long as I live and will not let his mission succeed. Friendship. |
Posted By: Akhe Abdullah
Date Posted: 08 August 2009 at 4:45pm
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Shibboleth wrote:Posted By: Shibboleth
Date Posted: 08 August 2009 at 9:16pm
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Please, please, please show me at least ONE verse that the prophets in the Torah, the Psalms and the Gospel even used the name Allah? In the Koran God is �Allah,� for in Arabic the word Allah means �the God.� The Bible gives us his name, saying �Jehovah our God is one Jehovah.� The Gospel of Mark 12:29. Could God�s name be �Allah�? No. As a good dictionary will show you, �Allah� is a shortened form of the Arabic term meaning �the god.� Obviously, this is not a name just as Lord and God is not a name. The term Allāh is derived from a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contraction - contraction of the Arabic definite article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al- - al- "the" and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CA%BEil%C4%81h - ʼilāh "deity, god" to al-lāh meaning "the [sole] deity, God" Please show me if you can where the "name" Allah first appeared. I on the other hand can show you the Name of JEHOVAH God or the Tetragrammaton (Hebrew form of Gods name) way before Abraham was even born. I will wait for your response. |
Posted By: Akhe Abdullah
Date Posted: 09 August 2009 at 1:54pm
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Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 09 August 2009 at 10:06pm
Hey Shibboleth: What are you doing in this section? This is for INTRAfaith, didn't you see? There happens to be a thread in INTERFAITH section currently on this subject go there..................................................... ------------- Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction. |
Posted By: Shibboleth
Date Posted: 09 August 2009 at 10:43pm
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"Who says the Prophets(As)in the Torah or Psalms used the name Allah?(No one said this)" ALSO YOU SAID "Just saying the name Jehovah is not something that we Muslims say please please understand that." Now we are getting somewhere!!!! At Mount
Sinai Jehovah told Moses: �I will raise them up a prophet from among their
brethren, like unto thee; and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall
speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that
whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I
will require it of him.��Deut. 18:15-19 (TORAH)This was not referring to none other then Jesus Christ, Muhammad as Muslims say did not speak in God's name. Threw out the Gospel Jesus spoke in God's name just as ALL the other prophets did. Therefore it is IMPOSSIBLE for Muhammad to be the "Chosen One" No wonder the Qur'an speaks of Jesus but Muslims don't know why. It speaks of the miraculous birth but for what purpose? The Answer can only be found in the Torah, Psalms and the Gospel. Why because the Qur'an or Muhammad was not from the Great God Jehovah. That's why there is much debate of Muhammad genealogy (not Jesus). No miracles because he did not have Jehovah God's backing. (not Jesus) In more than fifty verses in the Qur�an, it is recorded that Jesus was born without a father, performed miracles, even resurrected the dead. That was the point of this whole discussion. One Ḥadīth says that Christ is the only one that Satan did not touch: �When any human being is born, Satan touches him at both sides of the body with his two fingers, except Jesus, the son of Mary, whom Satan tried to touch but failed.��The Book of the Beginning of Creation from Ṣaḥīḥ Al-Bukhārī. WHY WAS JESUS SUCH AN IMPORTANT FIGURE IN THE QUR'AN? He was more the "just" a prophet, he was the son of GOD. �The similitude of Jesus before God is as that of Adam.� (Sura 3:59 Muslims even deny that Jesus died to support their own beliefs. But here is what the Qur'an says ♦ God caused Christ to die, raised
him to life, and then lifted him up to Him.�Āl �Imrān [3]:55, NJD;
Maryam [19]:33, NJD. Anyone could claim to be sent of God. Moses and Christ proved it by the performance of many miracles, but where were Muhammad�s miracles? He confessed in the Quran to having none.�See Suras 2:118; 10:38; 11:13; 6:109, Ali. Peace |
Posted By: Akhe Abdullah
Date Posted: 11 August 2009 at 4:45pm
| you still prove nothing take Sign*Readers advice a move along.You still stuck on the same thread and topic.Jesus(As) did nothing himself(concerning miracles)niether did Moses(As).let's focus on that. |