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Topic: Stop giving kids soda
Posted By: Jenni
Subject: Stop giving kids soda
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 5:12pm
I just want to appeal to all parents, aunts, uncles ect. out there to stop giving kids soda, or cola. It doesn't matter if its Mecca cola or coke its all the same. Its bad for your teeth and the suger and high fructose corn syrup in it contributes to obesity and diabetes. Parents need to say no to kids and offer them water, milk, 100% juice(not more that one cup a day) or homemade drinks like sparkling water with orange slices. I am tired of going to frieds houses and having them offer my kids soda. And when you come to my house for a party, there will be no soda served!!!

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You cant be a good muslim if you are not decent and have a cold heart. Be a decent and kind person and care for women and children and the elderly.



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Posted By: lamp
Date Posted: 12 August 2005 at 12:59pm

That is true. I think once you are addicted to cokes stuff then it gets very hard to leave it.. personally i tried many times switching from coke cans to milk or to juices but after a day or two again go back to my coke cans atleast 4-5 daily.. hardly touch milk anynmore.. and surely i could feel and see its effects on my health but i guess its too late by now to leave this addiction.. hope others take care of that from an early stage and keep escially children away from it as much as possible. 



Posted By: Knowledge01
Date Posted: 12 August 2005 at 2:47pm

Originally posted by Jenni Jenni wrote:

I just want to appeal to all parents, aunts, uncles ect. out there to stop giving kids soda, or cola. It doesn't matter if its Mecca cola or coke its all the same. Its bad for your teeth and the suger and high fructose corn syrup in it contributes to obesity and diabetes. Parents need to say no to kids and offer them water, milk, 100% juice(not more that one cup a day) or homemade drinks like sparkling water with orange slices. I am tired of going to frieds houses and having them offer my kids soda. And when you come to my house for a party, there will be no soda served!!!

 

I agree.  Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) has provided us with so many natural beverages and foods that we really should not even have to drink artificial drinks, especially ones that are bad for us as soda defintly is.  Water is the very best thing to drink, whether its from Zamzam or your regrigerator doesn't matter.  If you raise your kids on drinking water and good things, they will probably never even want to drink soda.

Alhamdulillah for all the natural things Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) has provided us with.



Posted By: Nausheen
Date Posted: 12 August 2005 at 4:22pm

Auzubillahi minash shaitan ir rajeem,

Bismillah ir rahman ir rahim,

Lime soda, Sprite or other fruit juices that are carbonated are not as bad as coca cola and pepsi. Lamp, may be you should try weaning yourself with the help of these.

 One of the harms of cola is that it contains phosphorus, which in excess is very bad for the bones. It can effect both growing kids and adults.

Talking of health hazards in foods, monosodium glutamate is also very bad for bones. It is a salt and may be used in very small quantities, never-the-less, causes adiction to the products it is used in.  Parents and guardians shld take care shopping for their little ones, their health is our duty.

Maa salaama,

Nausheen



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Posted By: Jenni
Date Posted: 12 August 2005 at 6:23pm
Good tips ladies, I have found that flavored herbal tea, like celestial seasonings orange spice or any other fruit flavor brewed then chilled in the fridge is very good. Kids love it and you can add lemon or orange slices and a little honey if you want  a little sweetness. Only 1 teaspoon per cup wont hurt compared to 14 teaspoons of suger in soda. My concern with soda for kids is the phosphorus but also the caffine and the high fructose corn syrup which contributes to obesity in children. Children do not need caffine in thier diet and allready eat way too much suger, they don't need it in thier drinks. I agree monosodium glutimate is very bad and at least by reading labels you can aviod it at home. You never know when you are eating out, but at least I can control what I give my family.  Peace all

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You cant be a good muslim if you are not decent and have a cold heart. Be a decent and kind person and care for women and children and the elderly.


Posted By: lamp
Date Posted: 13 August 2005 at 1:37am

Sister Nausheen .. i wish it was that easy i did try in past though but its very hard once you are so much addicted to cokes stuff.. you keep coming back to it. 

If anyone knows monsodium glutomate and MSG is the same thing that sister nausheen has mentioned?



Posted By: lamp
Date Posted: 24 August 2005 at 11:08am
Eye Damage from MSG

Controversy surrounding food additive MSG (monosodium glutamate-a common flavor enhancer) was re-ignited when a Japanese researcher suggested that consuming too much of the ingredient could make you go blind.

Researchers at Hirosaki University in Japan have found that rats fed diets high in MSG suffer vision loss and have thinner retinas than those in the control group. Glutamate, a group of chemicals that includes MSG, is an amino acid that acts as a neurotransmitter. It has already been shown to cause nerve damage in experiments where it is injected directly into the eye.

MSG, a sodium salt of the amino acid glutamic acid and a form of glutamate, is used as a flavor enhancer in a variety of foods prepared in restaurants and by food processors. While technically MSG is only one of several forms of free glutamate used in foods, consumers frequently use the term MSG to mean all free glutamate.

Its use has become controversial in the past 30 years because of reports of adverse reactions in people who have eaten foods that contain MSG. According to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), research on the role of glutamate in the nervous system has also raised questions about the chemical's safety.

According to lead researcher Hiroshi Ohguro, his is the first study to show that eye damage can be caused by eating food that contains MSG. A report in the New Scientist this week explains that in the study, rats were fed three different diets for six months, containing either high or moderate amounts of MSG, or none. In rats on the high-MSG diet, some retinal nerve layers thinned by as much as 75 percent, and tests that measured retinal response to light showed they could not see as well. Rats on the moderate MSG diet also had damage, to a lesser extent.

The researchers found high concentrations of MSG in the vitreous fluid, which bathes the retina. MSG binds to receptors on retinal cells, destroying them and causing secondary reactions that reduce the ability of the remaining cells to relay electrical signals.

Ohguro acknowledged that large amounts of MSG were used-20 percent of the total diet in the highest group. "Lesser amounts should be OK," he said, "but the precise borderline amount is still unknown."

He said the findings might explain why in eastern Asia, there is a high rate of normal-tension glaucoma, a form of the eye disease that leads to blindness without the usual increase in pressure inside the eyeball. The higher rate, however, could also be due to genetics.

The New Scientist report continues that Peng Tee Khaw, a glaucoma specialist at Moorfields Eye Hospital in London, said the amounts of MSG in the highest diet are "a lot, lot higher than you'd eat. But if you're a sodium glutamate junky, then you could potentially run into problems with your retina."

And while the amount of glutamate in the rats' diets was extremely high, lower dietary intakes could produce the same effects over several decades.

With such persuasive evidence it is clear that food processors must brace themselves for another wave of anti-MSG activity from global consumer associations. In a bid to reassure these same campaigners, food scientists must continue to investigate the impact of MSG, and free glutamates, on human health, as well as looking into alternatives.

One step toward finding alternatives was reported by FoodNavigator.com in April of this year. New research into the use of human taste and smell receptors in functional assays to screen for novel receptor activators and blockers was reported. Senomyx, the U.S. company that carried out the research, is hoping that their research will lead them to discover alternatives to MSG, as well as enhancers of sweet and umami (the taste conveyed by several substances naturally occurring in foods, including glutamate) tastes.


Comment : DR. MERCOLA

Most are aware that MSG is something that is wise to avoid due to its negative health effects. Most are not aware that MSG is added to most infant formulas. Soy formulas in particular are loaded with MSG.

This table displays some hidden sources of MSG:

These ingredients ALWAYS contain MSG:

Glutamate Glutamic acid Monosodium glutamate
Textured protein Hydrolyzed protein Monopotassium glutamate
Calcium caseinate Sodium caseinate Gelatin
Yeast extract Yeast food Autolyzed yeast

These ingredients OFTEN contain MSG or create MSG during processing:

Flavors & Flavorings Seasonings Natural flavors and flavorings
Natural pork flavoring Natural beef flavoring Natural chicken flavoring
Soy sauce Soy protein isolate Soy protein
Bouillon Stock Broth
Malt extract Malt flavoring Barley malt
Whey protein Carrageenan Maltodextrin
Pectin Enzymes Protease
Corn starch Citric acid Powdered milk
anything Protein fortified anything Enzyme modified anything Ultra-pasteurized

Some unexpected sources of MSG:

Salad dressings Frozen meals Packaged and restaurant soups
Cheese Reduced fat milk Chewing gum
Ice cream Cookies Vitamin enriched foods
Beverages Candy Cigarettes
Medications I.V. Materials Supplements, particularly minerals


Posted By: Saif Al-deen
Date Posted: 24 August 2005 at 11:12am

Asalamu Alaikum,

Buy a juicer and make apple, carrot, cantaloupe and other natural juices that are excellent for your health and naturally sweet. They run about $100.00 but it's well worth the money. Soda is funky.

Wasalam,

Liam



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Allahu Alim...


Posted By: yann237
Date Posted: 25 August 2005 at 5:07pm

If you still have two or three bottles of Cola, don't throw'em away... Here's some uses for Coca-Cola...

1. In many states (in the USA) the highway patrol carries two gallons of Coke in the trunk to remove blood from the highway after a car accident.

2. You can put a T-bone steak in a bowl of coke and it will be gone in two days.

3. To clean a toilet: Pour a can of Coca-Cola into the toilet bowl and .......Let the "real thing" sit for one hour, then flush clean. The citric acid in Coke removes stains from vitreous china.

4. To remove rust spots from chrome car bumpers: Rub the bumper with a crumpled-up piece of Reynolds Wrap aluminum foil dipped in Coca-Cola.

5. To clean corrosion from car battery terminals: Pour a can of Coca-Cola over the terminals to bubble away the corrosion.

6. To loosen a rusted bolt: Applying a cloth soaked in Coca-Cola to the rusted bolt for several minutes.

7. To remove grease from clothes: Empty a can of coke into a load of greasy clothes, add detergent, And run through a regular cycle. The Coca-Cola will help loosen grease stains. It will also clean road haze from your windshield.

Funny facts...

1. The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid. Its Ph is 2.8. It will dissolve a nail in about 4 days.

2. To carry Coca-Cola syrup (the concentrate) the commercial truck must use the Hazardous material place cards reserved for Highly corrosive materials.

3. The distributors of coke have been using it to clean the engines of their trucks for about 20 years!

Still Want To Drink Up?????????




Posted By: IslamIsTheBest
Date Posted: 30 November 2005 at 9:44am

Yan237,

Your list is totally untrue, there is a program called "Mythbusters", and your list of Facts was proven to be all false.  Consider the above "facts" to be non-facts, or test them first yourself before you make this claim.



Posted By: herjihad
Date Posted: 30 November 2005 at 10:03am

Bismillah,

Okay.  Jenni, I agree. Yet, there might be some in my house because they sneak it in through the black market.

I hate coffee also.  Not many takers there, I'm sure!  It depletes the bioavailability of vitamins.

When's the party?  Can you send a car because the drive to Cali might be a bit too much for me?

Whether Yann is correct or not, I still think his post is funny.

You expect my kids to eat my food without MSG?  Maybe if they had a coke to wash it down...



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Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.


Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 30 November 2005 at 1:42pm

Anything taken in excesss is bad for you


Posted By: Jenni
Date Posted: 30 November 2005 at 2:25pm
Herjihad, you can come to the party anytime. Although there will be no soda, but lots of other good stuff to drink. I like the Hansens natural sodas at trader joes or whole foods. I also avoid foods with Trans fatty acids, (or shortening), high fructose corn syrup, food colorings, msg, preservatives ect. Although coffee I really love!!!! I think if you stick to the basics kids will get used to it. I get ranch dressing from trader joes(you can make ranch easily if you don't have a natural food store close by.) We dip alot of different veggis in it. They love baby carrots, celery and broccili the most. My older one loves salad with cumbled up tortilla chips on top. Pastas with simple tomatoe sauces, tuna fish sandwiches, peanut butter on toast, grill cheese sandwiches, ect. There are many simple things that kids love and the less you give them the bad stuff the more they will love the good stuff. Although a little bad stuff sometimes is o.k. I am a closet donut lover and have to eat a few every month!!

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You cant be a good muslim if you are not decent and have a cold heart. Be a decent and kind person and care for women and children and the elderly.


Posted By: ummziba
Date Posted: 01 December 2005 at 6:08am

Assalamu alaikum,

I never gave my son any pop until he was about 10 years old, and then, only very rarely.  He only drank milk and fruit juices.

Now, he is 23 and drinks pop all the time .  Sometimes the best intentions don't quite work out.

Though, at least he doesn't drink alcohol or coffee either  .  They grow up so fast.

Peace, ummziba.



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Sticks and stones may break my bones, but your words...they break my soul ~


Posted By: herjihad
Date Posted: 02 December 2005 at 5:47am

Bismillah,

Sister Ummziba, I agree that the best of intentions don't always work out and appreciate your sharing your son's story.

I might make it to a couple of foreign countries again before I get out to Cali, but thanks for the invite! 

I knew a lady in Jordan who was so poor that they often didn't have much to eat.  When people came to visit and saw she didn't have coffee and tea to serve them, they bought that for her.  So she gave her kids a pretty standard drink for kids there:  Coffee milk, or tea, and they had biscuits, like at Starbucks, to dip into it.



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Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.


Posted By: Amina16
Date Posted: 02 December 2005 at 6:02pm
In my family we always drink tropical fruit juice.  Mango is most loved by everyone.  My parents buy sprite or 7up when someone is sick in the family Every morning we(me and my siblings) drink tea with milk or juice.  my parents drink coffee.  My dad used to buy pepse for himself when i was little but he stoped after he saw that my bros seem to be drinking it a lot.  

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"Words have Power" ex: The Quran



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