Those who follow the Apostle, the unlettered Prophet, Whom they find mentioned in their own Scriptures, in the Torah and the Gospel... (Holy Qu'ran: VII - 157; Translation: Yusif Ali)

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BIBLE PROPHECIES ABOUT THE ADVENT OF MUHAMMAD

Abraham is widely regarded as the Patriarch of monotheism and the common father of the Jews, Christians and Muslims. Through His second son, Isaac, came all Israelite prophets including such towering figures as Jacob, Joseph, Moses, David, Solomon and Jesus. May peace and blessings be upon them all. The advent of these great prophets was in partial fulfillment of God's promises to bless the nations of earth through the descendents of Abraham (Genesis12:2-3).Such fulfillment is wholeheartedly accepted by Muslims whose faith considers the belief in and respect of all prophets an article of faith.

BLESSINGS OF ISHMAEL AND ISAAC

Was the first born son of Abraham (Ishmael) and his descendants included in God's covenant and promise? A few verses from the Bible may help shed some light on this question;

1) Genesis 12:2-3 speaks of God's promise to Abraham and his descendants before any child was born to him.

2) Genesis 17:4 reiterates God's promise after the birth of Ishmael and before the birth of Isaac.

3) In Genesis, ch. 21. Isaac is specifically blessed but Ishmael was also specifically blessed and promised by God to become "a great nation" especially in Genesis 21:13, 18.

4) According to Deuteronomy 21:15-17 the traditional rights and privileges of the first born son are not to be affected by the social status of his mother (being a "free" woman such as Sarah, Isaac's mother, or a "Bondwoman" such as Hagar, Ishmael's mother). This is only consistent with the moral and humanitarian principles of all revealed faiths.

5) The full legitimacy of Ishmael as Abraham's son and "seed" and the full legitimacy of his mother, Hagar, as Abraham's wife are clearly stated in Genesis 21:13 and 16:3. After Jesus, the last Israelite messenger and prophet, it was time that God's promise to bless Ishmael and his descendants be fulfilled. Less than 600years after Jesus, came the last messenger of God, Muhammad, from the progeny of Abraham through Ishmael. God's blessing of both of the main branches of Abraham's family tree was now fullfilled. But are there additional corroborating evidence that the Bible did in fact foretell the advent of prophet Muhammad?

MUHAMMAD:
The Prophet Like Unto Moses

Long time after Abraham, God's promise to send the long-awaited Messenger was repeated this time in Moses' words.
In Deuteronomy 18:18, Moses spoke of the prophet to be sent by God who is:

1) From among the Israelite's "brethren", a reference to their Ishmaelite cousins as Ishmael was the other son of Abraham who was explicitly promised to become a "great nation".

2) A prophet like unto Moses. There were hardly any two prophets ,who were so much alike as Moses and Muhammad. Both were given comprehensive law code of life, both encountered their enemies and were victors in miraculous ways, both were accepted as prophets/statesmen and both migrated following conspiracies to assassinate them. Analogies between Moses and Jesus overlooks not only the above similarities but other crucial ones as well (e.g. the natural birth, family life and death of Moses and Muhammad but not of Jesus, who was regarded by His followers as the Son of God and not exclusively a messenger of God, as Moses and Muhammad were and as Muslim belief Jesus was).

Deuteronomy 33:1-2 combines references to Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. It speaks of God (i.e. God's revelation) coming from Sinai, rising from Seir (probably the village of Sa'ir near Jerusalem) and shining forth from Paran. According to Genesis 21:21, the wilderness of Paran was the place where Ishmael settled (i.e. Arabia, specifically Mecca).

Indeed the King James version of the Bible mentions the pilgrims passing through the valley of Ba'ca (another name of Mecca) in Psalms 84:4-6.

Isaiah 42:1-13 speaks of the beloved of God. His elect and messenger who will bring down a law to be awaited in the isles and who "shall not fail nor be discouraged till he have set judgement on earth." Verse 11, connects that awaited one with the descendants of Ke'dar. Who is Ke'dar? According to Genesis 25:13, Ke'dar was the second son of Ishmael, the ancestor of prophet Muhammad.

MUHAMMAD'S MIGRATION FROM MECCA TO MEDINA:
PROPHECIED IN THE BIBLE?

Habakkuk 3:3 speaks of God (God's help) coming from Te'man (an Oasis North of Medina according to J. Hasting's Dictionary of the Bible), and the holy one (coming) from Paran. That holy one who under persecution migrated from Paran (Mecca) to be received enthusiastically in Medina was none but prophet Muhammad.
Indeed the incident of the migration of the prophet and his persecuted followers is vividly described in Isaiah 21:13-17. That section foretold as well about the battle of Badr in which the few ill-armed faithful miraculously defeated the "mighty" men of Ke'dar, who sought to destroy Islam and intimidate their own folks who turned -to Islam.

THE QUR'AN (KORAN) FORETOLD IN THE BIBLE?

For twenty-three years, God's words (the Qur'an) were truely put into Muhammad's mouth. He was not the "author" of the Qur'an. The Qur'an was dictated to him by Angel Gabriel who asked Muhammad to simply repeat the words of the Qur'an as he heard them. These words were then committed to memory and to writing by those who hear them during Muhammad's life time and under his supervision.

Was it a coincidence that the prophet "like unto Moses" from the "brethren" of the Israelites (i.e. from the lshmaelites) was also described as one in whose mouth God will put his words and that he will speak in the name of God, (Deuteronomy 18:18-20). Was it also a coincidence the "Paraclete" that Jesus foretold to come after Him was described as one who "shall not speak of himself, but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak (John 16:13)

Was it another coincidence that Isaiah ties between the messenger connected with Ke'dar and a new song (a scripture in a new language) to be sang unto the Lord (Isaiah 42:10-11). More explicitly, prophesies Isaiah "For with stammering lips, and another tongue, will he speak to this people" (Isaiah 28:11). This latter verse correctly describes the "stammering lips" of Prophet Muhammad reflecting the state of tension and concentration he went through at the time of revelation. Another related point is that the Qur'an was revealed in piece-meals over a span of twenty three years. It is interesting to compare this with Isaiah 28:10 whichspeaks of the same thing.

THAT PROPHET- PARACLETE- MUHAMMAD

Up to the time of Jesus (peace be upon him), the Israelites were still awaiting for that prophet like unto Moses prophecied in Deuteronomy 18:18. When John the Baptist came, they asked him if he was Christ and he said "no". They asked him if he was Elias and he said "no". Then, in apparent reference to Deuteronomy 18:18, they asked him "Art thou that Prophet" and he answered, "no". (John 1: 1 9-2 1).

In the Gospel according to John (Chapters 14, 15, 16) Jesus spoke of the "Paraclete" or comforter who will come after him, who will be sent by Father as another Paraclete, who will teach new things which the contemporaries of Jesus could not bear. While the Paraclete is described as the spirit of truth, (whose meaning resemble Muhammad's famous title Al-Amin, the trustworthy), he is identified in one verse as the Holy Ghost (John 14:26). Such a designation is however inconsistent with the profile of that Paraclete. In the words of the Dictionary of the Bible, (Ed. J. Mackenzie) "These items, it must be admitted do not give an entirely coherent picture."

Indeed history tells us that many early Christians understood the Paraclete to be a man and not a spirit. This might explain the followings who responded to some who claimed, without meeting the criteria stipulated by Jesus, to be the awaited "Paraciete".

It was Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) who was the Paraclete, Comforter, helper, admonisher sent by God after Jesus. He testified of Jesus, taught new things which could not be borne at Jesus' time, he spoke what he heard (revelation), he dwells with the believers (through his well-preserved teachings). Such teachings will remain forever because he was the last messenger of God, the only Universal Messenger to unite the whole of humanity under God and on the path of PRESERVED truth. He told of many things to come which "came to pass" in the minutest detail meeting, the criterion given by Moses to distinguish between the true prophet and the false prophets (Deuteronomy 18:22). He did reprove the world of sin, of righteousness and of judgement (John 16:8-11)

WAS THE SHIFT OF RELIGIOUS LEADERSHIP PROPHECIED?

Following the rejection of the last Israelite prophet, Jesus, it was about time that God's promise to make Ishmael a great nation be fulfilled (Genesis 21:13, 18)

In Matthew 21:19-21, Jesus spoke of the fruitless fig tree (A Biblical symbol of prophetic heritage) to be cleared after being given a last chance of three years (the duration of Jesus' ministry) to give fruit. In a later verse in the same chapter, Jesus said: "Therefore, say I unto you, The Kingdom of God shall be taken away from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruit thereof" (Matthew 21:43). That nation of Ishmael's descendants (the rejected stone in Matthew 21:42) which was victorious against all super-powers of its time as prophecied by Jesus: "And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken, but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder" (Matthew 21:44).

OUT OF CONTEXT COINCIDENCE?

Is it possible that the numerous prophecies cited here are all individually and combined out of context misinterpretations? Is the opposite true, that such infrequently studied verses fit together consistently and clearly point to the advent of the man who changed the course of human history, Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Is it reasonable to conclude that all these prophecies, appearing in different books of the Bible and spoken by various prophets at different times were all coincidence? If this is so here is another strange "coincidence"!

One of the signs of the prophet to come from Paran (Mecca) is that he will come with "ten thousands of saints" (Deuteronomy 33:2 KJV). That was the number of faithful who accompanied Prophet Muhammad to Paran (Mecca) in his victorious, bloodless return to his birthplace to destroy the remaining symbols of idolatry in the Ka'bah.

Says God as quoted by Moses:
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. (Deuteronomy 18:19)

Dear Readers:
May the light of truth shine in your heart and mind. May it lead you to peace and certitude in this life and eternal bliss in hereafter.

AMEEN

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PROPHET MUHAMMAD (pbuh) IN THE BIBLE
by Dr. Zakir Naik
 

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the Old Testament:

The Qur�an mentions in Surah Al-Araf chapter 7 verse 157:

"Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures) in the law and the Gospel".
 

1.    MUHAMMAD (PBUH) PROPHESISED IN THE BOOK OF DEUTERONOMY:
 
Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18:

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and     he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

The Christians say that this prophecy refers to Jesus (pbuh) because Jesus (pbuh) was like Moses (pbuh). Moses   (pbuh) was a Jew, as well as Jesus (pbuh) was a Jew. Moses (pbuh) was a Prophet and Jesus (pbuh) was also a Prophet.

If these two are the only criteria for this prophecy to be fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible who came after
Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist, etc. (pbut) will  
fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as well as prophets.

However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is like Moses (pbuh):

i)    Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus (pbuh) was born miraculously without any male intervention.

[Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an 3:42-47]

ii)    Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not marry nor had children.

iii)    Both died natural deaths. Jesus (pbuh) has been raised up alive. (4:157-158)
 
Muhammad (pbuh) is from among the brethren of Moses (pbuh). Arabs are brethren of Jews. Abraham (pbuh) had two sons: Ishmail and Isaac (pbut). The Arabs are the descendants of Ishmail (pbuh) and the Jews are the descendants of Isaac (pbuh).

Words in the mouth:

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was unlettered and whatever revelations he received from Almighty God he repeated them verbatim.

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

[Deuteronomy 18:18]

v)    Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in their lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by his
people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He came unto his own, but his own received him not."

iv)    Both brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not bring   any new laws. (Mathew 5:17-18).

2.    It is Mentioned in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 18:19
 
"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will     require it of him."
 

3.    Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:
 
It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12:

"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."

When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned".

4.    Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in the old testament:
 
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:

"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem."

"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters
of Jerusalem."

In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad     
(pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad     (pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet present.

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New Testament:

Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:

"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he came to them with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "

All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold good for the Christians.
 

1.    John chapter 14 verse 16:
  "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."

2.    Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
 
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which 
proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."

3.    Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
 
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not
come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".

"Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or "the praised one" is almost the translation of the
Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English      translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter.  
Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the
Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a mercy for all creatures.

Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise
that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the
Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and    again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

DID ISAIAH AND JESUS PROPHESY THE COMING OF MUHAMMAD? 

JESUS WAS A PROPHET AND  ALSO A PARACLETE SAYS THE BIBLE..

       A Christian who has studied the Bible would be proud to admit that the prophecy made by prophet Moses for the coming of "a Prophet like me" (Deut. 18:15) undoubtedly refers to the coming of Jesus Christ. Jesus himself had acknowledged this to be the fact when he said to the enquiring Jews; "Moses wrote of me." (John 5:46). The learned Christians have no problem in admitting the fact that Jesus was "a prophet like his predecessor Moses". Those who deny Jesus was a "Messenger like Moses" are either ignorant of their own Scripture or living in false pride. 

      In his First Epistle quoted below, apostle John records in explicit language that Jesus Christ the righteous was "a Paraclete".

"My little children, I am writing these things to you that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have a Paraclete with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous." 1 John. 2:1
      Apostle John has also recorded in his Gospel, see the text below, that this righteous Jesus Christ (the Paraclete), will pray to  God after his departure, and God will give us "another Paraclete". 
"And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Paraclete, that he may abide with you into the age (to come)."  John 14:16
       The Bible scholars and the evangelic Christians who, after reading these two explicit verses enter into a debate with the Muslim Scholars and INSIST that the PARACLETE is (was) the HOLY SPIRIT, and is (was) NOT the MALE FIGURE that could see, hear and speak like a man; are simply advocating and contesting that the Apostle who had lived with Jesus (is) was TOTALLY MISTAKEN. He made an ERROR in identifying the PARACLETE to be Jesus. In other words, Muslims should REJECT the EPISTLE of John and ACCEPT their opinions to be the UNQUESTIONABLE TRUTH. Would it not be a better idea that they all should send a petition to the editors of the New Testament and see that this erroneous verse 1 Jn. 2:1 is expunged from the Bible!
Note:
   We often read the above verse 14:16 ending; "for ever". The fact of the matter is; "into the age" is the literal translation of the original Greek phrase; 'eis ton aiona'.

    In the next verse 14:17, John also records, this "another Paraclete" is the "Spirit of Truth" (NOT the Holy Spirit).

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A MALE SALVIFIC FIGURE LIKE JESUS 

The passage quoted below from the world renowned and distinguished Anchor Bible confirms that the original concept among the noted Christian scholars and populace, for the Paraclete was for a male salvific figure, but that concept was later confused with the "Holy Spirit".

"The word parakletos is peculiar in the NT to the Johnannine literature. In 1 John ii 1 Jesus is a parakletos (not a title), serving as a heavenly intercessor with the Father. ...Christian tradition has identified this figure (Paraclete) as the Holy Spirit, but scholars like Spitta, Delafosse, Windisch, Sasse, Bultmann and Betz have doubted whether this identification is true to the original picture and have suggested that the Paraclete was once an independent salvific figure, later confused with the Holy Spirit."  (page 1135).
Criticism and Response: A well known Christian critic, Jochen Katz, has been complaining on his web site "Answering Islam" that I have ignored his remarks; that my introductory note to the above quoted passage from the Anchor Bible gives a false impression that it's author is in agreement with the quoted passage. Since his accusations were based upon a false statement, I did not feel it necessary to respond. Unfortunately, he has made my silence an "Issue of my Integrity".
To mislead his readers, the critic had in one of his remarks,  intentionally deleted the opening words from the above passage. 
I have re-printed below the deleted words in Red Types;

     "The passage quoted below from the world renowned 
      and distinguished Anchor Bible confirms".

What I had mentioned was that the quoted passage confirms what has been suggested, based upon the suggestions made in the past by the individuals mentioned in the quoted passage. There was no mention of the "author" of the quoted book, to begin with. 

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THE NEGATION OF "HOLY SPIRIT"

     The concept that the Paraclete (comforter, advocate) is the "Holy Spirit" is unequivocally negated by the following verse:

"But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if  I do not go away, the Paraclete shall not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you."        John 16:7
    This verse clearly indicates that the coming of the Paraclete was subject to the departure of Jesus. His departure from this world  was a *pre-condition* for the arrival of the Paraclete.
     We know that the "Holy Spirit" was already present during and before the ministry of Jesus. The Holy Spirit was in existence since the day of the Creation and was hovering upon the surface of the earth (Gen. 1:2).  It was also present with the prophets of the Old Testament. The "Holy Spirit" was present "like a dove" at River Jordan when Christ was being Baptized. (Mt. 3:16). Since there is and was only ONE "Holy Spirit", Jesus would be totally mistaken in saying that the HOLY SPIRIT would NOT come not UNLESS he departs. Did not Jesus see the dove that alighted upon him?  OR, Jesus did NOT know that the "dove" was the Holy Spirit? Jesus was a RIGHTEOUS  Paraclete. When he said; Another Paraclete will come only after my departure, he meant that this Paraclete is not yet here, but will be born after I depart. 

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"HE" NOT "IT"

"When the Paraclete comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of Truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness of me."        John 15:26
This verse further clears the confusion, if there is any. Here the Paraclete is called the "Spirit of Truth" and not the "Holy Spirit". These are two separate terms and two independent entities. The first entity takes the pronoun "he" being a male figure. Whereas, the second one takes the pronoun "it". The Greek word 'pneu'ma' (spirit), is of neutral gender and takes the pronoun "it". Whereas, in almost all the verses referring to Paraclete quoted below, the pronoun used is "he".
"But the Paraclete, the Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." John 14:26
Notes:
1. In the older MS, Codex Syriacus discovered in 1812 on Mount Sinai by Mrs. Agnes S. Lewis (and Mrs. Bensley), the text of John 14:26 reads; "Paraclete, the Spirit"; and not "Paraclete, the Holy Spirit". "The Spirit" is a reference to "the Spirit of Truth" as in 15:26. 
2. In 1 John 4:6, the terms "the spirit of truth" and "the spirit of error" are used for the human beings.

3. History records that prophet Muhammad was known for his Truth and Honesty, long before he received the Divine Revelations.

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WHAT WILL "HE" DO?
Jesus Christ did indicate that the Paraclete will do certain things in his time. Let us examine if  "he", Prophet Muhammad, did those things.
1.  "But when he, the Spirit of Truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own initiative, but whatever he hears, he will speak..." Jn. 16:13
Note: The Qur'an is a compilation of the "Divine Revelations" that were received by Prophet Muhammad, over a period of 23 years, through the arch angel Gabriel. The Prophet used to recite whatever he used to hear. His companions used to write down whatever he recited. The Qur'an does not contain the writings or teachings of Prophet Muhammad, as often mentioned by some misinformed authors.

2.  "He shall glorify me."  John 16:14
Note: The Qur'an glorifies the birth of Jesus through Virgin Mary. It confirms; Jesus was a Messiah, a Messenger  of God, the Spirit from God, the Word of God and the Righteous Prophet.

3.  "He shall take mine and shall disclose it to you." John. 16:14
Note: Prophet Muhammad did declare himself a Messenger/Prophet of God like Abraham, Moses and Jesus.

4. "He will teach you all things."  John 14:26
Note: The Qur'an teaches a way of life. It guides mankind, how to live a pious life socially, politically and spiritually.

5. "He will bring to your remembrance all that I said to you."       John. 14:26
Note: The Qur'an speaks about the teachings of Jesus and even quotes him.

6. "He will bear witness of me" John 15:26
Note: The Qur'an attests the miracles performed by Jesus the Messiah. It also mentions one astonishing miracle performed by Jesus that the Gospel writers have not recorded (V:110). The Qur'an  acknowledges that these miracles and signs were performed with the leave of Allah, by His righteous Servant and Messiah Jesus. The same  is also attested in the Book of Acts 2:22; 3:13 (NASB).

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A PROPHET IN THE LAND OF KEDAR
Prophet Isaiah is considered to be one of the major prophets of the Old Testament. In the Book of Isaiah there are several prophecies about the coming of the Messiah. In chapter 42, Isaiah begins with a prophecy for the coming of prophet Jesus. After verse number nine, God declares through Isaiah, the "new things" that are to "spring forth" in the
Land of Kedar. 

In the Bible there is only one personality called Kedar. He was the grandson of prophet Abraham, through his son Ishmael (see Gen. 25:13). Kedar's descendants had settled in Paran (Syno-Arabian dessert). In the Rabbinic literature Arabia is called the "Land of Kedar". Prophet Muhammad was a descendant of Kedar.

God declares through Prophet Isaiah;

"Behold, the former things are come to pass, and the new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them. `Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise from the end of the earth'. Let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voices, the villages that Kedar doth inhabit: let the inhabitants of the rock sing, let them shout from the top of the mountains. Let them give glory unto the Lord, and declare His praise in the inlands."  Isaiah Chapter 42, Verses 9-12.
God did reveal in the Land of Kedar, through prophet Muhammad - a direct descendant of  Kedar, a "New Song" - The Qur'an (Koran). This happens to be the only Scripture to be revealed in the language of the Kedarites. The verses of the Qur'an are recited like a poem. Nearly 1.2 billion Muslims, residing all over the world, recite this "new song" and Glorify Allah, in their daily prayers, five times in a day. The initial Revelation came to prophet Muhammad in a cave of Mount Hira near the city of Mecca. There are several mountains near Mecca. During the annual Islamic Pilgrimage called "Hajj", Muslims from all over the world, assemble in Mecca and shout Glory to the Lord from the top of Mount Arafat. The pilgrims continuously give Glory to Allah on their ways, to and from Mecca.

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THE LORD SHALL GO AS "A MIGHTY MAN OF WAR"

"The Lord shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies."    Isaiah 42:13
In the Old Testament, the God often speaks "I" will do this, or "I" have done this; whereas, He has chosen human beings to do these jobs on His behalf. (e.g. Deut. 32:39ff and 2 Samuel 12:12).
Note:  Critic Jochen Katz has ignored the above  paragraph while making his remarks.

Prophet Muhammad did go forth as "a mighty man of war" against the Pagan Arabs, the enemies of  The Lord. He did stir up jealousy among the most influential and dominating Pagan tribe in Arabia. With a war cry and roar of  "Allahu Akbar" ("The God is the Greatest"), the Prophet of Islam did prevail upon the enemies of Lord - the idolaters. No doubt, the Islam was spread with a "war cry", but that was not a cry of a man seeking the personal power. It was a cry of the Lord, who no longer wanted to hold HIS PEACE against HIS ENEMIES. After the victory, Allah bestowed HIS FAVOR upon mankind and gave the Message of  "TRUE PEACE" - The Islam. Once a person whole heartedly submit himself or herself to Allah (become a Muslim), the "True Peace" from Allah is bound to enter his or her body, mind and soul. The relationship of that individual with Allah is now direct, having no Church or Papal Authority acting as a vicar or an intermediary.

"I have long time holden my peace; I have been still, and refrained myself, now will I cry like a travailing woman; I will destroy and devour at once."  Verse 14.
The prophets that came before Muhammad had all tried with peaceful missions. But, the concept of sharing God's Glory continued to surface again and again, in one way or other. It was with the war cry, through the descendants of Kedar (Arabs), these sinful practices were destroyed and devoured, inside and outside of Arabia. The spread of Islam was swift, wide spread and at once.

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ISLAM TURNS THE DARKNESS INTO LIGHT

"And I will bring the blind by a way they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known; I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things I will do unto them, and not forsake them." Isaiah Chapter 42, Verse 16.
It is an undeniable fact that before the advent of Islam, the pagan Arabs were like the blinds. Their religious and social concepts were crooked. The revelation of this "new song" brought them out of that darkness. Earlier, God had not sent any prophet to these people. By sending Muhammad, God fulfilled His above promise and also the following promise to Abraham;
"And *also* of the son of the bondwoman I will make a nation, because he is thy seed."      Genesis 21:13.
Please note the word "also" in above promise. The nations of  Judaism and Christianity came out from the descendants of Abraham and Sarah. The nation of Islam came out from the descendants of Abraham and Hagar. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are three children of Abraham by God's Covenants with Abraham.
"They shall be turned back, they shall be greatly ashamed, that trust in graven images; they say to the molten images, 'Ye are our gods.'"  Isaiah 42 Verse 17.
History records that Prophet Muhammad did put the pagan idolaters to great shame when he demolished before them, their 365 idols that were installed in Ka'bah (Mecca), the most respected place of pilgrimage in the whole of Arabia.  Today, Ka'bah is the Grand Mosque of Islam. Muslims from all over the world face towards Ka'bah while reciting their daily ritual prayers.

PROPHECIES  FOR 10,000  SAINTS & THEIR  LEADER

THE ORACLE WHICH HABAKKUK SAW..

Prophet Habakkuk was a royal scribe and a Levitical temple musician in Judah (the southern kingdom). He was deeply disturbed to see the law being ignored, perverted justice being delivered and the righteous being surrounded by the wicked. (Habakkuk 1:4). The prophet could not understand why the JUST GOD was not punishing the wicked, so he desperately cried out: 

How long, O Lord, shall I cry,
And Thou wilt not hear? 
I cry out unto Thee of violence,
And Thou wilt not save.
Why dost Thou show me iniquity,
And beholdest mischief?...  (Habakkuk 1:2-3).

3. "Holy One from mount Paran" is a reference to prophet 
       Muhammad (s.a.s.), as we shall soon discover from the
       related texts from the other Books of the Bible. 
   "Paran" is a biblical name for the part of Arabia where prophet
     Muhammad was born. When prophet Ishmael and his mother
     were driven out by Sarah; they settled in the "Wilderness 
     of Paran" (Genesis 21:21). Prophet Ishmael happens to be 
     the progenitor of prophet Muhammad. 
     "mount Paran" is a reference to the mountain near Mekkah, 
     where theprophet received his first Revelation. 

4.  "Selah" is musical note for an interlude 
     to recite His Praise.

5.  The prophetic "past tense" of the Vision refers to the
     events that are to happen in the "future".

The sun and moon stand still in their habitation;
At the light of Thine arrows as they go,
At the shining of Thy glittering spear.
Thou marchest through the earth in indignation,
Thou threshest the nations in anger.
Thou are come forth for the deliverance of Thine anointed;
Thou woundest the head out of the house of the wicked,
Uncovering the foundation even unto the neck.
~Selah~      (Habakkuk 3:11-13)

In the Old Testament, the God often speaks "I" will do this, or "I" have done this; whereas, He has chosen human beings to do these jobs on His behalf. (e.g. Deut. 32:39ff and 2 Samuel 12:12). 

Criticism: The critic Jochen Katz writes under the heading 'Ten Thousand Frauds';
"One of the strangest errors is that Mr. Meherally correctly quotes Deuteronomy 33:2 and Jude 14, but fails to see that both passages speak of "ten thousands" not "ten thousand". The words are in the plural, both in Hebrew (Deuteronomy) and in Greek (Jude). 

Response: The Hebrew word used in Deut 33:2 "rbabah", pronounced: reb-aw-baw' is translated under Strong's Number: 7233-HSN as a myriad (whether definite or indefinite): KJV--many, million, X multiply, ten thousand.  The Greek word used in Jude 14 is Strong's Number: 3461-GSN Transliterated:  "murias",    Pronounced: moo-ree'-; a ten-thousand; by extension, a "myriad" or indefinite number: KJV�ten thousand. 
Please notice: In both the instances "myriad" means "ten thousand" 
as per Strong's Concordance to the Bible. 
One may also consult an English Dictionary for further verification.
Besides, the correct plural term would be "tens of thousands", which is not to be found in any of the quoted passages of the Bible.

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The links of the above prophecy for Paran regarding; crushing the head of the wicked house, connects with the prophecies recorded below and the one that has been mentioned in the earlier article. In case you have not read the article 'PROPHECY # 1', please click HERE and read under the heading; 'A PROPHET IN THE LAND OF KEDAR', 
the details of a prophecy by prophet Isaiah on the subject of; 
"utterly putting to shame those who trust in idols, who say to the 
molten images, "You are our gods."

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10,000 SAINTS WITH GOD'S LAW

Nearly twenty centuries before the birth of prophet Muhammad and a short while before his own death, prophet Moses speaking on the subject of the Holy One from mount Paran, said to his people:

And he said, The Lord came from Sinai, 
and rose up from Seir unto them; 
he shined forth from mount Paran,
and he came with ten thousands of saints: 
from his right hand {went} a fiery law for them.
Yea, he loved the people; 
all his saints {are} in Thy hand: 
and they sat down at Thy feet;
{every one} shall receive of Thy words.
                            (KJV) Deut 33:2
Notes:
1. "Sinai" The holy mountain where upon Moses spoke with God.
2. "Seir" The mountainous region between the Dead Sea and the Gulf
    of Aqaba, where Moses spoke with God. See Deut. 2:1.

3. "ten thousandsof saints" Please read the next section.

4. "a fiery law" The only "Law" from the Almighty God that has come
   to Paran (Arabia) in its history, which judges between the wicked and
   benevolent, the evil and good, the immoral and moral, 
   the corrupt and   virtuous, is "the Criterion" (Ar. al-Furqan), 
   a synonym for the'Holy Qur'an'.

5. "Thy words" The Holy Qur'an is the collection of "God's Words"
    revealed to the prophet.

6. "(KJV)" I have reproduced the text from the King James Version
     because it very precisely speaks of the "ten thousands of saint".

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'A BIOGRAPHY OF THE PROPHET'

Karen Armstrong was a Roman Catholic nun for seven years. Since 1982 she has been a TV broadcaster and a writer. Her prestigious work and the best seller, 'History of God' has earned her an envious reputation. In her most recent publication, 'Muhammad, A Biography Of The Prophet', she writes:

   At the end of 628 A.D., the Meccans broke the Treaty of Hudaybiyah....
   On 10 Ramadan, January 630, Muhammad set out at the head of the largest army every to leave Madina. Nearly all the men in the umma had volunteered and along the road their Bedouin allies joined the expedition bringing the number up to 10,000 men. 

1.   The eminent French Orientalist Maxime Rodinson, in his book
'Mohammed' writes on page 259: 

At last he (Muhammad) set out with what was usual in Arabia
at that time, and immense army: ten thousand men.

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EPISTLE BY CHRIST'S  HALF BROTHER

   Jude, the author of the second last book of the New Testament called 'The Epistle of Jude' was brother of James and hence he was a half brother of Jesus Christ. Jude was not a prophet. He is not the author of the prophecy which we are about to read. He reminds his people of the prophecy made by Enoch, the seventh generation from Adam, who in a figurative term "walked with God". (God took him up see Gen. 5:24).

In verses 14-15-16 of his Epistle, Jude reproduces the words of the Enoch's Prophecy, which reads: 

"See, the Lord is coming with 
ten thousands of his holy ones, 
to execute judgment upon all, 
and to convict everyone of all the deeds of ungodliness
that they have committed in such an ungodly way,
and of all the harsh things that ungodly sinners 
have spoken against him." 
These are grumblers and malcontents;
they indulge their own lusts;
they are bombastic in speech,
flattering people to their own advantage.  (NRSV)
Anyone who has read the biography of prophet Muhammad and the acts committed by the Pagan Arabs of Paran, prior to the advent of Islam, would see the above prophecy being fulfilled with the 'Mekkan Expedition' by the prophet, reviewed earlier.
 

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"ALLEGORICAL PROPHECIES"

King Solomon, the author, was a believer of "One God". At the temple inauguration, he stood on a bronze platform and; 

knelt on his knees in the presence of all the assembly of Israel and spread out his hands towards heaven, and said; 
"O Lord, the God of Israel, there is no God like Thee 
in heaven or on earth, keeping covenant 
and showing loving kindness to thy servants 
who walk before Thee with all their heart.... "
                     2 Chronicles 6:13-14 and 1 Kings 8:22-23.

    For the centuries, the Bible readers and scholars have debated; what could be the reason for this erotic "human love" song to be included in the Holy Scripture? Does it have a figurative, allegorical or a deep prophetic value that is not so easy to understand?

    Kamal Salibi, professor of history at the American University of Beirut has done an in-depth study of the Hebrew Scripture. In his book, 'The Bible came from Arabia' he describes he different views held by different groups for the 'Song of Songs'. He writes on page 180:

Jews have traditionally interpreted the boldly erotic material included in the 'Song of Songs' as a series of allegories which demonstrate God's love for Israel. Christians regard the same passages as allegorical prophecies relating to Christ's love for the Church. To the Arab ear, however, the lyrics included in the 'Song of Songs' have a far less ethereal ring: they mean exactly what they say, being early examples of a genre of erotica still very much alive today.

 Strong's Number: 2530-HSN
 Transliterated:  chamad
 Pronounced:      khaw-mad'
 Note: The Phonetic Sound of the Transliteration "ch" ("kh") is
           similar to "ch" in German "ach".

 2530-HSN is a primitive root; to delight in: KJV--beauty, 
         greatly beloved, covet, delectable thing, (X great) delight, 
        desire, goodly, lust, (be) pleasant (thing), precious (thing).

Strong's Number: 4261-HSN
Transliterated:  machmad
Pronounced:      makh-mawd;
from 2530 HSN;
delightful; hence a delight. i.e object of affection or desire:-
beloved, desire, goodly, lovely, pleasnat (thing).

Strong's Number: 4262-HSN
Transliterated:  machmud
Pronounced:      makh-mood';
from 2530 HSN;
desired; hence, a valuable: KJV--pleasant thing.

   These are not the literal prophecies. As seen earlier, they are metaphorical, symbolic allegorical prophecies. Jews claim the allegories demonstrate God's love for Israel. Christians regard the same passages asrelating to Christ's love for his Bride, the Church. A Muslim's claim that the prophecies speak of prophet Muhammad (the root word of which is "Ahmad") is on much more solid ground than the other two, for the understated significant reasons:

1. The phrase; "Pre-eminent above ten thousand" has ample support for "prophet Muhammad of Arabia" in the several other Books of the Old Testament, as seen earlier. The terms "Israel" and "Church" lack that kind of support.

2. The Phonetic Sound of the critical response giving away the identity of the Beloved, starting with the words; "Yea, he is..." discloses the 
proper name of the prophet -HSN-4261. Israel or Church's identity does not come close.

3. The substitution of the prophet's proper name "Muhammad" with its literal meanings, viz.; "the praised one" or "the glorified" remain in complete harmony with the text of the above prophecy. The texts would read ; "Yea, he is altogether praised" or "Yea, he is altogether glorified". The Biography of prophet Muhammad could easily endorse
that the prophet was indeed; "altogether praised" and "altogether glorified", in and around his mother land, before he departed from the world. Today, 1.3 billion Muslims, living all over the world, Praise and Glorify their prophet and pray before Allah to send His Peace upon their Beloved prophet.

Important Note:A question is sometimes asked; The Qur'an speaks of  Jesus having said to Jews about the coming of a messenger of God, after him, whose name shall be Ahmad (Q. 61:6), why is that speech not recorded in the New Testament? The answer to this is; It is an undisputed fact that the texts of the four available Gospels have been revised and re-revised several times, in the past and the present. Several texts have been injected and expunged. The Gospel of Mark was the first to have been written. About 93%  of its material is repeated in Matthew and Luke, often using the same words. Mark was not one of the 12 disciples of Jesus nor a witness to everything. It is generally accepted by the church historians that Mark derived the accounts of the sayings and acts of Jesus from Peter. And, the Gospel of Peter - the original source document, which was in use until the second century has been expunged. Under these circumstances to claim that all that Jesus spoke has been preserved till this day, could not qualify as a true statement of facts.

Muhammad In The Old Testament

• http://islamicweb.com/bible/good1.htm - Prefatory Remarks, Allah And His Attributes "And The Ahmed Of All Nations Will Come." - Haggai, ii.7.
• http://islamicweb.com/bible/good2.htm - The Question Of The Birthright And The Covenant
• http://islamicweb.com/bible/good3.htm - The Mystery Of The "Mispa"
• http://islamicweb.com/bible/good4.htm - Prophet Muhammad Is The "Shiloh"
• http://islamicweb.com/bible/good5.htm - Prophet Muhammad And The Emperor Constantine
• http://islamicweb.com/bible/good6.htm - Prophet Muhammad Is The Son-Of-Man
• http://islamicweb.com/bible/good7.htm - King David Calls Him: "My Lord"
• http://islamicweb.com/bible/good8.htm - The Lord And The Prophet Of The Covenant
• http://islamicweb.com/bible/good9.htm - Genuine Prophets Preach Only Islam
• http://islamicweb.com/bible/good10.htm - Islam Is The Kingdom Of God On Earth

Prophet Muhammad In The New Testament

• http://islamicweb.com/bible/good11.htm - Islam And Ahmadiyat Announced By Angels
• http://islamicweb.com/bible/good12.htm - "Eudokia" Means "Ahmadiyeh" [Luke ii. 14]
• http://islamicweb.com/bible/good13.htm - John The Baptist Announces A Powerful Prophet
• http://islamicweb.com/bible/good14.htm - The Prophet Foretold By The Baptist Was Certainly Prophet Muhammad - John The Baptist Foretold Prophet Muhammad
• http://islamicweb.com/bible/good15.htm - The Baptism Of John And Jesus Only A Type Of Religious Marking "Sibghatullah"
• http://islamicweb.com/bible/good16.htm - The "Sibghatullah," Or The Baptism With The Holy Spirit And With Fire
• http://islamicweb.com/bible/good17.htm - The "Paraclete" Is Not The Holy Spirit
• http://islamicweb.com/bible/good18.htm - "Periqlytos" Means "Ahmad"
• http://islamicweb.com/bible/good19.htm - "The Son Of Man," Who Is He?
• http://islamicweb.com/bible/good20.htm - By The Apocalyptical "Son Of Man," Prophet Muhammad Is Intended
• http://islamicweb.com/bible/good21.htm - The Son Of Man According To The Jewish Apocalypses
• http://islamicweb.com/bible/good22.htm - The Prophet Of Arabia As Spoken Of In The Bible "The Burden Upon Arabia" - Isaiah xxi. 13.

Mansoor_ali wrote:  To member_profile.asp?PF=61385&FID=10 - JOUBERAR  There is no ways that no ways that Muhammad could have be the one that is foretold in the bible it can only be Jesus.  Article By http://islamicweb.com/?folder=bible - Former Roman Catholic Bishop of the Uniate Chaldean   Muhammad In The Old Testament http://islamicweb.com/bible/good1.htm - Prefatory Remarks, Allah And His Attributes "And The Ahmed Of All Nations Will Come." - Haggai, ii.7. http://islamicweb.com/bible/good2.htm - The Question Of The Birthright And The Covenant http://islamicweb.com/bible/good3.htm - The Mystery Of The "Mispa" http://islamicweb.com/bible/good4.htm - Prophet Muhammad Is The "Shiloh" http://islamicweb.com/bible/good5.htm - Prophet Muhammad And The Emperor Constantine http://islamicweb.com/bible/good6.htm - Prophet Muhammad Is The Son-Of-Man http://islamicweb.com/bible/good7.htm - King David Calls Him: "My Lord" http://islamicweb.com/bible/good8.htm - The Lord And The Prophet Of The Covenant http://islamicweb.com/bible/good9.htm - Genuine Prophets Preach Only Islam http://islamicweb.com/bible/good10.htm - Islam Is The Kingdom Of God On Earth Prophet Muhammad In The New Testament http://islamicweb.com/bible/good11.htm - Islam And Ahmadiyat Announced By Angels http://islamicweb.com/bible/good12.htm - "Eudokia" Means "Ahmadiyeh" [Luke ii. 14] http://islamicweb.com/bible/good13.htm - John The Baptist Announces A Powerful Prophet http://islamicweb.com/bible/good14.htm - The Prophet Foretold By The Baptist Was Certainly Prophet Muhammad - John The Baptist Foretold Prophet Muhammad http://islamicweb.com/bible/good15.htm - The Baptism Of John And Jesus Only A Type Of Religious Marking "Sibghatullah" http://islamicweb.com/bible/good16.htm - The "Sibghatullah," Or The Baptism With The Holy Spirit And With Fire http://islamicweb.com/bible/good17.htm - The "Paraclete" Is Not The Holy Spirit http://islamicweb.com/bible/good18.htm - "Periqlytos" Means "Ahmad" http://islamicweb.com/bible/good19.htm - "The Son Of Man," Who Is He? http://islamicweb.com/bible/good20.htm - By The Apocalyptical "Son Of Man," Prophet Muhammad Is Intended http://islamicweb.com/bible/good21.htm - The Son Of Man According To The Jewish Apocalypses http://islamicweb.com/bible/good22.htm - The Prophet Of Arabia As Spoken Of In The Bible "The Burden Upon Arabia" - Isaiah xxi. 13.

The Prophets Of Satan

Jouberar,

you wrote beside other things:

JOUBERAR wrote: The Prophets Of Satan In Matthew 24, Jesus promised that, in the last days, there would be many false prophets that would rise up and deceive many people. When Christians hear the term "false prophet" we usually think in terms of preachers or teachers who present false and damnable doctrines to the body of Christ. While this is a valid interpretation of this term, I believe that there are other mouthpieces of Satan who make no claim to Christianity, yet have an effect on those in the Church who are not prudent enough to avoid being exposed to their prophetic utterances. This effect can be either direct or indirect, as we shall see.   WHO IS THAT PROPHETS OF SATAN BECAUSE SATAN DOES NOT LAY CLAIM ON CHRISTIANITY  SATAN REJECT CHRISTIANITY IN SUCH A WAY YOU WON'T NOTICE IT.

To start off, Jesus says that many will come IN MY NAME claiming I AM THE CHRIST. The prophet Muhammad never claimed he was the Christ, that title was never given to him in the Quran, the term Christ is only given to Jesus in the Quran. Secondly, Muhammad never came in Jesus' name; Muhammad came for Allah's cause, not Jesus'. So therefore as we already see, the prophet Muhammad does not match the description given by Jesus.

The next description Jesus gives is that the false prophet will perform several great signs and wonders. The prophet Muhammad does not fit this description neither. In fact one of the main arguments Christians bring up against Muhammad, is that he did not perform great miracles and signs like the former prophets. In fact the unbelievers also accused Muhammad of this:

But (now), when the Truth has come to them from Ourselves, they say, "Why are not (Signs) sent to him, like those which were sent to Moses?" Do they not then reject (the Signs) which were formerly sent to Moses? They say: "Two kinds of sorcery, each assisting the other!" And they say: "For us, we reject all (such things)!" S. 28:48

Nay; rather it is signs, clear signs in the breasts of those who have been given knowledge; and none denies Our signs but the evildoers. They say, 'Why have signs not been sent down upon him from his Lord?' Say: 'The signs are only with God, and I am only a plain warner. What, is it not SUFFICIENT FOR THEM that We have sent down upon thee the Book that is recited to them? Surely in that is a mercy, and a reminder to a people who believe. S. 29:49-51 A.J. Arberry

So as you can see, the pagans accused the prophet Muhammad of not performing great miracles and signs. As I also mentioned, Christians themselves always bring this argument up, so hence a Christian cannot honestly take both sides of the arguments, Christian's must make their mind up. Did Muhammad perform great signs and wonders or did he not? If he did not, then he does not fit the description of a false prophet. This just shows the double standards Christians use in their arguments.

However so, I am not saying the Blessed prophet Muhammad did not perform miracles and so on. He most certainly did, go read the hadiths to read them for yourself. The Quran is also a miracle and a sign. However so what I am saying is that the prophet Muhammad did not go around everyday performing miracles, and doing great wonders, this is what the Dajjal (anti-Christ) will do. So either way, the prophet Muhammad does not match that description.

Also finally, the prophet Muhammad did not try to persuade the people to believe him by major miracles and signs. This is not how he went about things, so again he does not fit the description.

So as we see, those verses which Christians often bring up do not refer to Muhammad, the prophet Muhammad does not fit the description.

 { from 610-633 in mekkah and madina }

Nazarene wrote: JOUBERAR wrote: Nazarene wrote:   { tell me when and where were Muhammad a perfectionist in bringing take note! the "word" of "God" to the people.}    assalam alaikum  { from 610-633 in mekkah and madina } who said muhammad was a perfectionist? he was a  human being like you and i.   why did god wait so long?:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFmKZb7I8hg - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFmKZb7I8hg       John 15:26 (New International Version)  26"When the Counselor{ Gabrial } comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth { Muhammad } who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me. { muhammad testifies of jesus' hollyness and the truth of his message } John 16:5-14 (New International Version)     5"Now I am going to him who sent me, yet none of you asks me, 'Where are you going?' 6Because I have said these things, you are filled with grief. 7But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor { Gabrial } will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. 8When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt { the Qu'ran does this to the unbelievers and those who incurd his wrath also those who've gone asrtay! what some would call HARD TEACHINGS! }in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment: 9in regard to sin, because men do not believe in me; 10in regard to righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer; 11and in regard to judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.  12"I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. 13But when he, the Spirit of truth { Muhammad }, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, { Muhammad recited what Gabrial spoke.}and he will tell you what is yet to come. 14He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it known to you. { the message or the word of life } 8When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt { the Qu'ran does this vividly to the unbelievers and those who incurd his wrath also those who've gone astray! what some would call HARD TEACHINGS!         i never understood why " some people " say when they read the qu'ran it was full of hate. i've never found  "hate" within the qu'ran myself . it bewildered me till now.       it's not that there is hate in the qu'ran . it's because of the guilt they feel in their own hearts  when they read it. as we all know the heardest thing to face is that which is within ourselves. " some people "can't handle it so THEY lash out against that which brings them to themselves.breaking the mirror so to speak . love leland   The spirit of truth is a spirit and Muhammad is definitly not a spirit and how can you ad words into a bible text that muslims already claim is corrupt but if you put Muhammad's name there it is correct how do you know that spirit of truth relates to Muhammad you haven't discover it out of your own.  salam please read into the old testement more. some prophets were refered to as "spirit of truth" or "spoke with the spirit of truth" or the " spirit of truth was in him" {paraphrased}. read carefully so you don't read over or passed things.   as for muslims thinking the bible is corruped is true. but that doesn't mean that truth does not exsist with it . it's just hard to find.   leland

"Many things yet I have to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. But when HE, THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, has come, HE WILL TEACH YOU ALL THE TRUTH. For He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He will hear He will speak, and THE THINGS THAT ARE TO COME HE WILL DECLARE TO YOU."
John 16:12-13

There are three spirits, anyone one of which could be the one who is prompting a person.
1. There is first the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth, and His prompting is from GOD.
2. Then there is the human spirit which manufactures the prompts through the imagination and other human traits.
3. Finally, there is the evil spirit and its prompting is straight from Satan.

"And we are witnesses to these things, and SO IS THE HOLY SPIRIT, WHOM GOD HAS GIVEN TO ALL WHO OBEY HIM."
Acts 5:32
All who obey Him are prompted by the Holy Spirit. The disobedient are prompted by one of the other spirits.
"Obey your prelates and be subject to them. For they watch as being to render an account of your souls: that they may do this with joy and not with grief. For this is not expedient for you."
Hebrews 13:17
This is a command from GOD.
Was http://home.inreach.com/bstanley/luther.htm - Martin Luther and the other http://home.inreach.com/bstanley/reform.htm - reformers obedient to their superiors?
Did they obey GOD's command in this verse? No? Then which of the other two spirits was guiding them? 

We obey GOD by keeping His Commandments and His Word whether by word or by letter. In the first Commandment, GOD tells us that He must be first in our lives.
What is most important in our lives is the god of our lives. Do we put GOD first, or do we put money, or power, or worldly things, or the flesh first? If GOD is first in your lives, it is a good sign that the Holy Spirit is prompting you.

Mansoor_ali wrote:  Here is 516-page refutation of the false apostle Paul:   http://l.b5z.net/i/u/6053592/i/Pauline_Corruption_of_Biblical_Analysis.pdf - http://l.b5z.net/i/u/6053592/i/Pauline_Corruption_of_Biblical_Analysis.pdf 2: Jude's Epistle - More Evidence of rift between Jerusalem  and Paul http://l.b5z.net/i/u/6053592/i/Jude_s_Epistle__More_Evidence_of_Rift_Between_Jerusalem_and_Paul__.pdf - http://l.b5z.net/i/u/6053592/i/Jude_s_Epistle__More_Evidence_of_Rift_Between_ http://l.b5z.net/i/u/6053592/i/Jude_s_Epistle__More_Evidence_of_Rift_Between_Jerusalem_and_Paul__.pdf - Jerusalem_and_Paul__.pdf 3: Was Paul or James' Church the more successful evangelists ? http://l.b5z.net/i/u/6053592/i/Was_Paul_or_James__Church_the_more_succesfull_Evangelist.pdf - http://l.b5z.net/i/u/6053592/i/Was_Paul_or_James__Church_the_more_succesfull_Evangelist.pdf 4: Jesus or Paul ? - Lecture by a former Christian Priest http://islamic-answers.com/jesus_or_paul_____audio_lecture_ - http://islamic-answers.com/jesus_or_paul_____audio_lecture_ For more info check: http://islamic-answers.com/christianity - http://islamic-answers.com/christianity

Paul's Delusions: In 1 Corinthians 7:40, he claimed that he "thinks" that he has the Holy Spirit in him!

The sections of this article are:

1-  Paul's claim in 1 Corinthians 7:40.
2-  The serious issue.
3-  Conclusion.

1-  Paul's claim in 1 Corinthians 7:40:

During my debate with Dr. James White, I raised many points that left him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nkfdRpsB_4 - dead silent and spinning around himself (See especially minutes 15:00 and 19:20 in the video).  He even went as far as calling me a liar (again, see the minute-positions that I gave).  One of those points that I silenced him on was quoting http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%207:40;&version=31; - 1 Corinthians 7:40 , where Paul stated that he "thinks" he has the Spirit of GOD Almighty in him.  My point was this:

1-  For Paul to say that he "thinks" he has the Holy Spirit, he obviously wasn't even sure 100% that he had It.

2-  I gave the example by pointing my finger in the direction of where my wife was sitting and said: "For instance, I don't say I THINK I am seeing my wife.  No!  I see my wife!  She's sitting over there.  You have to speak with authority and confidence, especially when you declare yourself to be a Prophet who was sent from GOD Almighty." 

If I were to say that I think I see my wife, and she's only some 10-20 feet away, then this would tell you that my eye sight is poor and I would need eyeglasses.  Same thing with Paul.  If he wasn't even sure whether or not GOD Almighty's Spirit was in him, then we have a problem.

This was one of the points that I silenced James White on during my debate with him.  His sorry-reply was that I brought everything "except for the kitchen's sink."  Reading between the lines:  Meaning that I (James white) have no response to this point!

It is also worth mentioning that James White, who happily posted all of his debates with http://answering-christianity.com/dumpster_section.htm - incompetent clowns like Nadir Ahmed , has only posted his 20-minute "rebuttal" to me, which actually when you listen through it, you'll see that he was cornered and silenced on many many points, and that he was only whining.

Furthermore, and as I mentioned above, James White called me a liar for quoting Paul saying that he "thinks" he has the Holy Spirit.  Well, I'll let the English translations speak on this.  Let us look at what Paul said:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%207:40;&version=31; - 1 Corinthians 7:40 (New International Version)
40 In my judgment, she is happier if she stays as she is�and I think that I too have the Spirit of God.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%207:40;&version=49; - 1 Corinthians 7:40 (New American Standard Bible)
40 But in my opinion she is happier if she remains as she is; and I think that I also have the Spirit of God.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%207:40;&version=45; - 1 Corinthians 7:40 (Amplified Bible)
40 But in my opinion [a widow] is happier (more blessed and to be envied) if she does not remarry. And also I think I have the Spirit of God.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%207:40;&version=51; - 1 Corinthians 7:40 (New Living Translation)
40 But in my opinion it would be better for her to stay single, and I think I am giving you counsel from God�s Spirit when I say this.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%207:40;&version=9; - 1 Corinthians 7:40 (King James Version)
40 But she is happier if she so abide, after my judgment: and I think also that I have the Spirit of God.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%207:40;&version=47; - 1 Corinthians 7:40 (English Standard Version)
40 Yet in my judgment she is happier if she remains as she is. And I think that I too have the Spirit of God.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%207:40;&version=50; - 1 Corinthians 7:40 (New King James Version)
40 But she is happier if she remains as she is, according to my judgment�and I think I also have the Spirit of God.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%207:40;&version=48; - 1 Corinthians 7:40 (21st Century King James Version)
40 But she is happier if she so remain, in my judgment; and I think also that I have the Spirit of God.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%207:40;&version=8; - 1 Corinthians 7:40 (American Standard Version)
40 But she is happier if she abide as she is, after my judgment: and I think that I also have the Spirit of God.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%207:40;&version=15; - 1 Corinthians 7:40 (Young's Literal Translation)
40 and she is happier if she may so remain -- according to my judgment; and I think I also have the Spirit of God.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%207:40;&version=16; - 1 Corinthians 7:40 (Darby Translation)
40 But she is happier if she so remain, according to my judgment; but I think that *I* also have God's Spirit.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%207:40;&version=77; - 1 Corinthians 7:40 (Holman Christian Standard Bible)
40 But she is happier if she remains as she is, in my opinion. And I think that I also have the Spirit of God.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%207:40;&version=76; - 1 Corinthians 7:40 (New International Reader's Version)
40 In my opinion, she is happier if she stays single. And I also think that I am led by the Spirit of God in saying that.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%207:40;&version=64; - 1 Corinthians 7:40 (New International Version - UK)
40 In my judgment, she is happier if she stays as she is� and I think that I too have the Spirit of God.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%207:40;&version=72; - 1 Corinthians 7:40 (Today's New International Version)
40 In my judgment, she is happier if she stays as she is�and I think that I too have the Spirit of God.

As virtually more than 90% of all English translations quoted Paul saying "I think", then obviously Dr. James White was only playing games and trying to desperately grapple his way out of the corner.  I am confident that even his own Bible says "I think", which would really make it quite ironic.  I will investigate this further, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).

I also want to say that when I personally get my hands on the debate files, I will post them, insha'Allah.

2-  The serious issue:

Now moving on to the more serious issues of Paul, I believe it is a very serious thing.  Paul showed absolutely no confidence and no authority in his claims about receiving Divine Revelations.  When he said "I think I have the Spirit of GOD in me," that statement virtually blew away all of his credibility as a true Prophet, because what kind of a delusional and confused person was he?  And what "spirit" was really inspiring him?  Or was he just having plain delusions? 

Historically, we've heard of many many false Prophets that came and went.  Our most recent one was David Koresh of Waco, Texas - USA, where he and his followers were burnt alive by the FBI, which in return caused for the Oklahoma City bombing by, Timothy McVeigh and his other partner who was never captured, and whom the US government calls "John Doe", to happen for vengeance against the US government.  He also had delusions of him being inspired by GOD Almighty.  So why should Paul be any different? 

Furthermore, since the http://answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm - Bible's own theologians admit that its books and gospels had all been:

1. Written by mysterious men.
2. Written by an unknown number of men.
3. Written in unknown places.
4. Written in unknown dates.

then based on what objective grounds should we even consider Paul's current books to be:

1. All 100% his work.
2. Unaltered by men.
3. All True Divine Revelations from GOD Almighty.

I don't see that being a valid case at all.  Paul clearly demonstrated his uncertainty and doubts about whether he even had the Spirit of GOD Almighty in him.

3-  Conclusion:

The Bible again and again is proven to be corrupt and false.  Paul was also proven again and again to be a false prophet.  I personally think that since liquor back then was quite harmful to the body, because it was heavily concentrated and full of bacteria and microbes, that it might've effected his head and caused him to start hearing voices and fool and mislead many with him.

Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty.  I strongly recommend you visit the following links:

1. http://answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links - The Overwhelming Scientific Miracles in the Holy Quran.
    
2. http://answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm - Isaiah 53 further prove that Jesus never got crucified, which further confirms Islam.
    
3. http://answering-christianity.com/islam.htm - What is Islam?
    
4. http://answering-christianity.com/blessed_jesus.htm - What is the status of Jews, Christians and other non-Muslims in Islam?

May Allah Almighty Lead you and your families to Islam.  Ameen.

 Textual evidence for Paul�s non-inspiration

by Ibn Anwar

 Christians would have it that their liege lord Paul of Tarsus was ever inspired and received direct revelation from Jesus Christ himself. This concept stems from the following verses(and many others):

�For I make known to you, brethren, as touching the Gospel which was preached by me, that it is not after man. For neither did I receive it from man, nor was I taught it, but through revelation of Jesus Christ.� (Galatians 1:11-12)

�If any man thinks himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him take knowledge of the things which I write unto you, that they are the commandment of the Lord.�(1 Corinthians 14:37)

And of course, the famous 2 Timothy 3:16:

�All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.�

In the verses from Galatians and 1 Corinthians we see that Paul claims that he received revelation from Jesus Christ and that whatever he writes(teaches) are the commandment of the Lord. Then, in 2 Timothy 3:16 we read a most infamous verse which claims that �ALL SCRIPTURE is given by inspiration of God��. In other words, the whole Bible including the teachings and words of Paul of Tarsus are inspired by God according to the said verse. Let us see if this is true. In order to do this we shall take a close look at 2 verses attributed to Paul in his epistles.

Titus 1:12-14

�Even one of their own prophets has said,�Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons.� This testimony is true. Therefore, rebuke them sharply so that they will be sound in faith and pay no attention to Jewish myths or to the commands of those who reject the truth.�

The person being quoted by Paul in the above passage is Epimenides according to numerous reputable Christian Bible commentaries.

�III In reference to their people or hearers, who are described from ancient testimony given of them. 1. Here is the witness(v. 12): One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, that is, one of the Cretans, not of the Jews, Epimenides a Greek poet, likely to know and unlikely to slander them.� [1] (emphasis added)

�Even one of their own prophets has said,�Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons.�(1:12). The Greek is better rendered,�Even one of them, their own prophet.� Here �prophet� is used in the sense of a religious leader or reformer. The reference is to Epimenides, the fifth-century B.C. poet honored by the people of Crete. The contemptuous evaluation of the Cretans is reflected in pagan writings and even in the Greek language itself, where the word kretizo,�to Crete-ize,� came to mean �to lie� or �to cheat�.� [2] (emphasis added)

�(m) Epimenides, who was considered a prophet amongst them. See Laertius, and Cicero in his first book of divination.� [3] (emphasis added)

�A prophet of their own. A Cretan sage, seer and teacher, Epimenides by name, who lived about 500 B.C.
The Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. The hard testimony of his countrymen is quoted from a poem now lost.� [4] (empasis added)

�1:12, Cretans�gluttons: quoted from Epimenides, a Cretan poet of the sixth century B.C.� [5] (emphasis added)

�In 1:12, Paul quotes the Greek poet Epimenides, who wrote �Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.� [6] (emphasis added)

�He quotes Epimenides, one of their own poetic spokesmen who lived around 600 B.C.� [7] 

�12. One - Epimenides of Phaestus, or Gnossus, in Crete�� [8] 

�12. Invective against opponents supported by a hexameter from the Cretan poet Epimenides (ca. 600 BCE)� [9]

Some of you might ask, �so what exactly is the problem?�. Well, it�s quite simple and straight forward really. The person quoted is Epimenides. He says that,�Cretans are ALWAYS liars�. The Greek word for always here is ἀεὶ(aei) which means �ever and always�(without exception). So, the problem is that this testimony is by Epimenides who is HIMSELF a CRETAN! And Paul affirms the testimony without hesitation as he put it:

�This testimony is true. Therefore, rebuke them sharply so that they will be sound in faith��

If Epimenides is a Cretan and the testimony in question says �Cretans are ALWAYS liars� which Paul affirms then how can the testimony be true in the first place? If Epimenides is a Cretan and they always lie then how is his testimony here true? Do you understand what always means? Any reasonable person will no doubt agree with me that there�s a big logical problem here. Indeed, it is a huge stumbling block.

I had an hour long discussion on this with a Christian apologist and the defense which he mustered was quite interesting however false it was. Instead of dealing with the logical problem of the passage he tried to spun an entirely different interpretation of the text. He claimed that Paul was not affirming what the quotation says, but rather the quotation itself i.e. he�s saying that the quotation is authentic(actually said by someone). The problem with this explanation is that it just does not correlate with the text which itself is quite clear:

�Even one of their own prophets has said,�Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons.� This testimony is true. Therefore, rebuke them sharply so that they will be sound in faith��

Paul believes that the testimony which he is reporting is true so he says THEREFORE or as the NASB translates it �FOR THIS REASON� REBUKE THEM SHARPLY. What�s the reason? What�s to rebuke? To rebuke is to scold, to refute, to correct, to reproach etc. Do you rebuke someone on the basis of a quotation which is not true?  No! The reason for the rebuking is because according to Paul the TESTIMONY that says Cretans are always liars is true i.e. what is said by it is true! As Matthew Henry explains:

�2. Here is the matter of his testimony: The Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, slow bellies. Even to a proverb, they were infamous for falsehood and lying. 3. Here is the verification of this by the apostle himself: v. 13. This witness is true.� [10]  (emphasis added)

The following Bible translation is quite helpful:

�It was a Cretan prophet, one of their own countrymen, who said, �Cretans were ever liars, vicious brutes, lazy gluttons� - and how truly he spoke! All the more reason why you should rebuke them sharply��(Revised Standard Version, Oxford and Cambridge University Press)

Let us consider several  more commentaries that admit to the fact that Paul believes the testimony made by the Cretan Epimenides to be factual.

��generally considered to be Epimenides, a contemporary of Solon (about 600 B.C.)� The indictment is severe, but this testimony is true.� [11]  (emphasis added)

�13. This witness is true. Paul confirms these as facts and says rebuke them sharply.� [12]  (emphasis added)

�the apostle confirms the accuracy of the character sketch.� [13]  (emphasis added)

�13. This witness �This testimony(though coming from a Cretan) is true.�  [14]  (emphasis added)

The logical problem : Epimenides was a Cretan. He claims that CRETANS ARE ALWAYS LIARS. Paul says this testimony from Epimenides the Cretan is true. How can it be true if Cretans ALWAYS lie? If Epimenides who was himself a Cretan was telling the truth with regards to the statement, then how can Paul agree with the statement that Cretans ALWAYS lie? If Epimenides was telling the truth then obvously Cretans do not always lie.

The result: Paul was deluded and uninspired.

References:

[1] Matthew Henry.  Matthew Henry�s New Testament Commentary(1995).  Great Britain: Hadder and Stoughton. p. 387

[2] Richard, Lawrence O. , The Victor Bible Background Commentary New Testament, Victor Books, p. 540

[3] Geneva Study Bible

[4] People�s New Testament

[5] Firstside New American Bible. Wichita, Kansas: Freeside Bible Publishers. p. 1319

[6] NKJV Study Bible. Thomas Nelson 2nd Edition. p. 1932

[7] William MacDonald. Believer�s Bible Commentary. Thomas Nelson Publishers. p. 2138

[8] Jamieson, Fausset & Brown�s Commentary. Grand Rapids, Michigan: Zondervan Publishing House. p. 1386

[9] The New Oxford Annotated Bible(2007). Oxford. p. 363

[10] Matthew Henry. Op. Cit. p.387

[11] The Wesleyan Bible Commentary. Vol. 5, p. 643-644

[12] Liberty Bible Commentary. The Old Time Hour, Lyncburg, Virginia, p. 655

[13] William MacDonald. Op. Cit.

[14] Jamieson, Fausset & Brown�s Commentary. Op. Cit.

1 Corinthians 7:25

�Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful.�

The ISV, NASB etc. translates judgment as �opinion�. This is because the Greek word gnome can also be understood as opinion. Whichever it is, I believe the verse speaks for itself. Paul speaks on his own prerogative without divine intervention. Is it possible that he speaks presumptuously here? The typical Christian answer is of course a definite no. However, it does go well with numerous passages that clearly show him as nothing more than a charlatan and a deceiver as we see in the previous articles on Paul. Anyway, it is woth noting that several commentaries agree that Paul received no divine judgment here, but he rather spoke out of his own opinion.

�II. The determination he gives, which, considering the present distress, was that a state of celibacy was preferable: It is good for a man so to be, that is, to be single. I suppose, says the apostle or it is my opinion. It is worded with modesty, but delivered, notwithstanding, with apostolic authority.�[1]

The concession given in the above commentary is that Paul spoke out of modesty, but, with apostolic authority. Is Paul really all that modest? Interestingly, another reputable commentary contradicts Matthew Henry.

�He appeals neither to his apostleship nor to his authority in Christ� Paul will give his own judgment��[2]

In short, Paul gave his own opinion and I do not believe he was inspired to say it.

References:

[1] Matthew Henry. Op. Cit. p. 235

[2] Gordon D. Fee. The First Epistle to the Corinthians. William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company. p. 328

Mansoor_ali wrote: JOUBERAR wrote:   Because Muhammed could perform miracles because he is not out God.  What about Christ?He also performed miracles So he is not Prophet?Do you agree with me?   JOUBERAR wrote: The Apostle Paul did not start Christianity out of his own Christ inspire him through the holy spirit and by the way he was on his way to Damascus to kill christians when Christ apear to him. Why would he become a christian if he was a member of the jewis council and a pharisee and they gave him the legal rights to kill christian and persecute all of a sudden put his own life in danger and start begining spread the word of God through christianity  and you must remember there was also a so called prophecy of him that he fore told Muhammed coming this Paul you said is corrupter.  Thomas Jefferson "Paul was the first corrupter of the doctrines of Jesus." (All references not listed here, can be found in Christianity Betrayed)   Pauline Theology http://muslim-responses.com/Jesus_VS_Paul/Jesus_VS_Paul_ - Jesus VS Paul http://muslim-responses.com/Peace_or_no_Peace/Peace_or_no_Peace_ - Peace or no Peace http://muslim-responses.com/Paul_on_Divorce/Paul_on_Divorce_ - Paul on Divorce http://muslim-responses.com/Paul_on_Marriage/Paul_on_Marriage_ - Paul on Marriage http://muslim-responses.com/Did_he_really_meet_Jesus/Did_he_really_meet_Jesus_ - Did he really meet Jesus http://muslim-responses.com/Prisoner_of_Christ/Prisoner_of_Christ_ - Prisoner of Christ http://muslim-responses.com/The_Jews_Killed_Jesus/The_Jews_Killed_Jesus_ - The Jews Killed Jesus http://muslim-responses.com/Pauls_blunder/Pauls_blunder_ - Pauls blunder - Shows how Paul was wrong concerning the End times. http://muslim-responses.com/Paul_and_the_Jewish_Law/Paul_and_the_Jewish_Law_ - Paul and the Jewish Law http://muslim-responses.com/Christian_and_Pagan_Beliefs/Christian_and_Pagan_beliefs_ - Christian and Pagan beliefs -See how a major Christian saint and Church father states that Christian beliefs which were introduced by Paul are exactly the same as Pagan beliefs! http://muslim-responses.com/Paul_VS_the_Disciples/Paul_VS_the_Disciples_ - Paul VS the Disciples http://muslim-responses.com/Paul_and_Circumcision/Paul_and_Circumcision_ - Paul and Circumcision http://muslim-responses.com/Paul_and_Animal_Offerings/Paul_and_Animal_Offerings_ - Paul and Animal Offerings http://muslim-responses.com/Did_Paul_meet_Satan/Did_Paul_meet_Satan_ - Did Paul meet Satan http://muslim-responses.com/Paul_the_False_Prophet/Paul_the_False_Prophet_ - Paul the False Prophet http://muslim-responses.com/Paul_the_Liar/Paul_the_Liar_ - Paul the Liar

Paul had say nothing bad about Christianity and other people if you read what he have written in a wide context you will see what he meant he explained Christianity in a more understandable way and he explain to them that they must put GOD first before anything in thier lives and he have  made Christianity his way of living so he have done it before he was a Christian he made Judaism his way of living.

Acts 9

Saul's Conversion

Nazarene wrote: Shasta'sAunt wrote: "Isaiah 42:  Before Jesus the Gentiles had no Laws from GOD the way Israel did.  By Jesus coming the Gentiles were able to be joined/grafted into the nation of Israel even though they had never followed GOD's Law."   Jesus did not preach to the Gentiles. Jesus preached to the Jews and his followers were Jews.   Matthew 10: 5These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:  6But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. salaams!! just like to add some more on the matter of gentiles. in luke jesus for tells us of " the signs of the coming age" luke 21: 5-37 . but it is what he says in verses 20-24 thats interesting:the gentiles are not good people or even any kind of "chosen". in fact he states the gentiles only have a certain amount of time. so what of paul and his mission now??    20"When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. 22For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written. 23How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. 24They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. leland

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file:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5CUser%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmsohtmlclip1%5C01%5Cclip_colorschememapping.xml - Gentiles there are the Romans! How we know that? Jesus (S) was talking about the destruction of the temple the second time in the yrs. 70AD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_in_Jerusalem -  

Believer,

You wrote:  �Now remember I am not convinced that the Quran is the Word of GOD but, the following verse may actually be about Jesus and not Mohammd-

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YUSUFALI: "Those who follow the messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law and the Gospel;

As I see it, there is a problem with the logic.  According to St. Luke (4:16-17), Jesus was not unlettered:

�And he [Jesus] came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.  And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written ��

Serv