these i found for you very easly on net

this are not my work because i write poems

God's Attributes:

For a Christian, Experiencing God's Attributes, is pursuing God with Your Whole Heart, Mind, and Soul. The study of God's Attributes can help grow in the love for God by helping the faithful to know the Lord better through the scriptures.

To a Muslim, Allah (God in Aramaic) the Almighty, is Creator and Sustainer of the universe, Who is similar to nothing and nothing is comparable to Him. If the Creator is Eternal and Everlasting, then His attributes must also be eternal and everlasting. He should not lose any of His attributes nor acquire new ones. If this is so, then His attributes are absolute.



Science of Kalam:

Ilm al-Kalam is a branch of Islamic philosophy, generally referred to as Fiquhe. The Kalam, a discipline which evolved from medieval religiophilosophic debates, deals with Islamic doctrine definition and its defense by discursive arguments.

The rise of Kalam was closely associated with the Mu'tazilah, a rationalist school that emerged at the beginning of the second Islamic century (8th century AD) and became prominent in the next.



The Mu'tazila failure to follow up their intellectual and political position by imposing their views as official Islamic state doctrine lead to a resurgence of traditionalism and the emergence of the Ash'ariyya school, which attempted to present itself as a compromise between the two opposing extremes. However, the problem was not Kalam's fusion with philosophy as its failure to evolve into a fully-fledged Islamic philosophy with its own complete frame of reference.

Al-Ghazali, the Sufi sympathetic Imam of the Asharite school, stated that one must be well versed in the ideas of the philosophers before setting out to refute their ideas. The Incoherence of the Philosophers is the title of his landmark polemic in Islamic philosophy against the Islamic Neoplatonic school of thought, in which philosophers like Ibn Sina and al-Farabi are denounced.



God's Unity and Justice:

Mu'tazilism sought to valorize, under the attacks of Moslem heretics (Zanadiqa), the absolute Unity and Justice of God; but this valorization became quite quickly, a 'justification' ie the Divine Essence and Action become justified before and through human reason. It is to counter this reduction of the mystery that the Ash'aris take their stand, proclaiming the Omnipotence and the Omniscience of God, rejecting any ontological basis for human freedom of action, but seeking to refute the Mu'tazilis, using their own weapons.



God's Eternal Attributes:

The first principle denied the distinction between God's eternal attributes and His essence. This raised a question concerning the concept of divine will in

relation to the doctrine of the world's temporal creation. Most Mu'tazilites rejected Aristotle's potentially infinite divisibility of substance, adopting atomism as the only view consistent with the Qur'anic statement that God knows the determinate number of all things. Its principal dogmas were three:

a. God is an absolute unity, no attribute can be ascribed to Him.

b. Man is a free agent. It is on account of these two principles that the Motazilites designate themselves the 'Partisans of Justice and Unity'.

c. All knowledge necessary for the salvation of man emanates from his reason; humans could acquire knowledge before, as well as after, Revelation, is by the sole light of reason. This factual statement makes knowledge obligatory upon all men, at all times, and in all places.



Attributes and Trinity:

As far as the Sunni Muslim concept of Attributes is concerned, it can be shown that their position is almost parallel to that of Orthodox Christian. If one is to put the Attributes, in Muslim understanding, in place of the second and third Persons of the Trinity (The Merciful, The Compassionate), the doctrine of the Trinity is transformed into Muslim Attributism. However, unlike the second and third persons of the Trinity, which are Intradeical and extradeical, by unification, that is, they were at once the same as God and other than He, these orthodox Muslim attributes were intradeical and extradeical by 'location,' that is, they were in God but other than He. Whereas the unorthodox position of the Anti-attributists in Islam corresponds to Sabellianism in Christianity.



Mutazilah on causality:

The doctrine of the world's eternity, the Mutazili maintained, deprived God of will. It meant the simultaneity of cause and effect which only obtains, as in natural causes, when the effect is necessitated by the agent's nature or essence. Here, however, their principle of divine unity faced a major difficulty: if the divine will is conceived as an eternal attribute and hence not distinct from the divine essence, God's acts become in reality essential, not voluntary. This led many Mu`tazilites to argue that the divine will itself is created�a doctrine vulnerable to the Ash`arite criticism that such a will requires another created will to create it and so on ad infinitum.



Ibn Khaldun's Thought:

Ibn Khaldun's fourteenth century, was dominated by 'neo-Hanbalism', which aired strong suspicion of both mysticism and philosophy. Ibn Khaldun, born in Tunisia in 1332 AD, lived at a time when it was possible to reflect upon a profound period of Islamic thought, as a writer, he was to sum up this period, pointing towards the future of Islamic intellectual enquiry. He used the terms and concepts of his time, and some have argued that he was a culturally-specific phenomenon, interpreting his thought in Western terms must distort it fatally. Logic cannot be applied to this area of enquiry, and must be restricted to non-theological topics.

Philosophy was regarded as going beyond its appropriate level of discourse, in that the intellect should not be used to weigh such issues as 'the oneness of God, the other world, truth of prophecy, real essense of the divine attributes, or anything that lies beyond the intellect's domain' (Muqaddima 3, 38).

Ibn Khaldun was also critical of Neoplatonic philosophy, mainly the notion of a hierarchy of being, according to which human thought can be progressively purified until it encompasses the First Intellect which is identified with the necessary being, that is, God. He argued that this process (Theosis) is inconceivable without the participation of revelation, so that it is impossible for human beings to achieve the highest level of understanding and happiness (Orasis) through the use of reason alone. Interestingly, the basis of his argument here rests on the irreducibility of the empirical nature of our knowledge of facts, which cannot then be converted into abstract and pure concepts at a higher level of human consciousness. Ibn Khaldun follows al-Ghazali in reconciling mysticism with theology, bringing mysticism completely within the jurisprudent, and viewing the Sufi master, as a theologian

Warriorofelyon wrote: Thanks for all the links!!!! No I do not know Arabic....well, I do know a little but not enough to say I know Arabic... Would anyone be willing to answer the following questions? 1. Why do you personally reject the notion of the triune God? 2. How do you understand the concept of the Trinity? That is how would you describe it?

in ISLAM there only one singular ALLAH

but there is trinity in nature

for the self

the surrounding

and the sustainer who sustains the self and the surroundings

here is example

SWEETSWORDS 35 [ Epistemological model of ILM ]

3 -2 -1 - 1 + 2 + 3 + 5 + 8

BISMILLAH

Poga Humayun Dundiwala

Setting is thus
Man mineral and grass
From this ignorant trinity
Outcome the informative duality
The divinity of minus and plus
Beyond that the occult octagonal
The force that sets three stages of fitrath nafs and aql
Is the ilm of Illuminati ALLAH
L a illa ha illel la
MUHAMMAD ur rasul ALLAH

Setting is this
Dark ignorance stark information and illuminating ignis
Then further on
With ignition of neuron
The sermon is this
A single god in octagonal bliss

Poga Say's in a foolington maze

Let me present Science of stages and signs of veils
Sharriatic messengers and marrifatic mail
MUHAMMADAN reality and truth of ALLAH
Foundation less Sufi and fundamental Mullah
Let me present MUHAMMADAN reality and theory of everything
Sharriatic hidden cube and marrifatic manifest ring
MUHAMMADAN reality and fact of Allah
La illa ha illel la
MUHAMMAD ur rasul ALLAH

Warriorofelyon wrote: Thanks for all the links!!!! No I do not know Arabic....well, I do know a little but not enough to say I know Arabic... Would anyone be willing to answer the following questions? 1. Why do you personally reject the notion of the triune God?

Greetings Warrior.

My reasons for personally objecting to the trinitarian godhead.

The lack of strong supporting evidence from a reliable source.

1) The verses used to establish the thesis from which to "interpret" the Hebrew Scriptures (HS) are at best "implicit".

2) The verses are not from a single verifiable authoritative source. (the NT cannot be verified to any author or any writer that can be established as a direct witness to what Jesus thought, stated, or acted)

3) The thesis is not found until after the first century, along with other competing ideas about the nature of Jesus and God. This kind of claim should require strong support from an authoritative source, since it delves into a form of "idolatry".  

The idea that God is a trinitarian godhead is an argument to try and explain the issue of the divinity of Jesus.

1) I reject that Jesus is divine based upon the lack of theolgical evidence that should be supported by some authoritative source that is verifiable fro some kind of "confidence".

2) The HS do not have a need for God to become "man" and have to die for our sins. The HSS cover every required need for sin expiation. A "perfect" blood sacrifice is simply not required in the HS.

So the issue of my rejection of the trinity goes into several components of Church theology. I am not one to reject it due to any "irrational" holes in the theology, since, as Nietzshe once stated, "The irrationality of a thing is no argument against its existance, rather a condition of it."

Even the idea that the sun will rise in the east tomorrow has no pure logical bases since the history of the sun rising in the east for millions of years does not mean it must do the same tomorrow.

2. How do you understand the concept of the Trinity? That is how would you describe it?

That is a loaded question! Historically, the Christian doctors have not actually agreed with any consensus, and it has been pointed out to me by a knowledgeable member on this forum that the protestant movement delved into a shade of "modalism" that was considered a heresy in the first thousand years of the church (Israfil, you will have to clearify this as I forget the source you pointed out, and correct me if I have not quoted you correctly). Even the Jehovas Witnesses engage in the Arian Heresy. I think the safest place to start with a general understanding would be the " Athanasian Creed ".

Warriorofelyon wrote: Hello, I am writing a Master's thesis discussing the Islamic view of God. This includes a discussion of the Christian understanding of the Trinity compared to how Muslim theologians understand it. I would like to be as fair and accurate as possible. Would anyone have any suggestions regarding Islamic texts that could be used the represent the Asharite theological school? Thanks!

to understand the singularity or duality or trinity or what ever first you need to learn about the setting

and ISHALLAH in this one poem you will learn more about the settings of creation then all the man made books of world put together 

so i will take you step by step so ask me when you need

SWEETSWORDS 108 [ Elemental Setting of for Foe ]

BISMILLAH

3 - 2 - 1 + 1 + 2 + 3 + 5 + 8

Poga Humayun Dundiwala

Setting is thus
Still mountainous terrain moving Forrest and removal ass
They move on
From innate to intuition
Intuition to intelligence
And intelligence to illumination
This are only four stages out of eight
In Huma's singular domain with eight Illuminati gate

The station the traveler and the rail
Earthly station traveling plants and the animal mail
In this trinity driver makes four
For journey of stages and the marrifatic tour
The tour de force
The knowledge of epistemological models of ilm e course
The course is as in sequence of the food for thought
In the science of plus and minus and naught and dot

Poga Say's in a Foolington Maze

Fitrath of innate idols
And the nafs of ambitious idolater
Aql of intelligent mental patient
And wisdom of spiritual doctor

Fitrath of innate idols and nature of mud
Nafs and desire of plant and bud
Aql of intelligence butterfly
And Ruh of spiritual beekeeper
In the science of wisdom
And in the signs of nature

Fitrath nafs and aql and ruh
Your innate nature intuitive desire  intelligent mind and spiritual you
Now who am i and where do fit in
I am your heartache the hidden unseen

Fitrath nafs aql and ruh
Me and you he and who
All individual yet unified in aim
In different stages and in different name
All in one and one in all
As mighty in tiny as great in small

poga wrote: Warriorofelyon wrote: Hello, I am writing a Master's thesis discussing the Islamic view of God. This includes a discussion of the Christian understanding of the Trinity compared to how Muslim theologians understand it. I would like to be as fair and accurate as possible. Would anyone have any suggestions regarding Islamic texts that could be used the represent the Asharite theological school? Thanks! to understand the singularity or duality or trinity or what ever first you need to learn about the setting and ISHALLAH in this one poem you will learn more about the settings of creation then all the man made books of world put together  so i will take you step by step so ask me when you need SWEETSWORDS 108 [ Elemental Setting of for Foe ] BISMILLAH 3 - 2 - 1 + 1 + 2 + 3 + 5 + 8 Poga Humayun Dundiwala Setting is thus Still mountainous terrain moving Forrest and removal ass They move on From innate to intuition Intuition to intelligence And intelligence to illumination This are only four stages out of eight In Huma's singular domain with eight Illuminati gate The station the traveler and the rail Earthly station traveling plants and the animal mail In this trinity driver makes four For journey of stages and the marrifatic tour The tour de force The knowledge of epistemological models of ilm e course The course is as in sequence of the food for thought In the science of plus and minus and naught and dot Poga Say's in a Foolington Maze Fitrath of innate idols And the nafs of ambitious idolater Aql of intelligent mental patient And wisdom of spiritual doctor Fitrath of innate idols and nature of mud Nafs and desire of plant and bud Aql of intelligence butterfly And Ruh of spiritual beekeeper In the science of wisdom And in the signs of nature Fitrath nafs and aql and ruh Your innate nature intuitive desire  intelligent mind and spiritual you Now who am i and where do fit in I am your heartache the hidden unseen Fitrath nafs aql and ruh Me and you he and who All individual yet unified in aim In different stages and in different name All in one and one in all As mighty in tiny as great in small

Poga, you have already responded to the post once before. This is a discussion forum, and not a potery section. Occasional poetry is ok, but you are filling the threads with your poetry, and sometimes you are replying to the same post twice with more poetry. This is borderline, "spaming". I have had several complaints about your posts. I for one find it more difficult to keep track of threads when you begin to paste your poetry into the discussion. It is borderline "disruption". People do not know half the time if you are insulting them or if you are aware of what the topic is about. Try and keep the poetry to a minimum. 

Warriorofelyon wrote: 1. Why do you personally reject the notion of the triune God? 2. How do you understand the concept of the Trinity? That is how would you describe it?

Perhaps you should read and understand the 99 attributes of Allah. Here is the link = http://www.islamicity.com/Mosque/99names.htm - http://www.islamicity.com/Mosque/99names.htm  If you read carefully the meaning of these names, I doubt you can find any other God that fits the description in these beautiful names.

We reject totally the triune of God as He is Al Awwal - The Beginning - The source of all that can be found in this whole Universe. He is Al Akhir - He has no End. And most importantly He is Al-Khaliq = The Creator.

Salam.

Poga, you have already responded to the post once before. This is a discussion forum, and not a potery section. Occasional poetry is ok, but you are filling the threads with your poetry, and sometimes you are replying to the same post twice with more poetry. This is borderline, "spaming". I have had several complaints about your posts. I for one find it more difficult to keep track of threads when you begin to paste your poetry into the discussion. It is borderline "disruption". People do not know half the time if you are insulting them or if you are aware of what the topic is about. Try and keep the poetry to a minimum.

dear ANDALUS this poem will answer about tri-nity and four-nity and five-nity in great detail please bear with me

with the first post i mentioned trin-ity in nature

with second post i mentioned four-nity in creation

for this just one poem i went through at-least 10000 books to collect the data

Mr Barzakh Fitrath Ullah  : Between mud meat and wood
A man in flesh declares i am above rest in prostration's SAJUD
he speaks to god lying sitting standing and at work
He creates sign of sajud and stigmata mark
Oh BE AQL look at a dog
Have seen him doing Yog or Jog
When lying he is rolling reeling
When sitting he is resting and crawling
When standing he run jump and bark
But you will never see him in prostration to achieve the Sajud mark
It is the station of FITRATH NAFS AQL AND RUH
That's distinguish what is what and who is who
Don't you see the way of mud
It too has fire air and watery blood
But essence that predominates his character is his Fitrathullah clay
It doesn't have any desire to run and play
Then life that evolved is Nafsi vegetation
Yet it doesn't have any desire for psychiatric session
It too was created with earth water fire and air
Yet only thing they desire is theirs botanical heir
Yet they protect not theirs progeny at sight of stranger
Have seen burning forest where stationary tree running away from danger
Who do you see fight to kill theirs sibling in love and war
Who else apart from animal Sansar
Who uses theirs mind OH BE AQL
In Mud Wood and Animal
Who else but animal crane
Dies for beloved in separation pain
But have seen any silent giraffe or laughing hyena
Doing the meditation by Yogic Ashana
This are quality's of men what sets them apart from rest of the creation
You see OH BE AQL it is not the Bodi tree but it is the Buddha who does the meditation
All animal have mind but it is the men who holds the RUH
All animal makes the migration but it is the men who wears the shoe
Have seen any monkey going for Nike or spider in need of a needle
No OH BE AQL but it is only the men who can web just with binding words the most enticing riddle

from SWEETSWORDS 108 [ The Elemental Setting of Four Foe ]

poga wrote: Warriorofelyon wrote: Thanks for all the links!!!! No I do not know Arabic....well, I do know a little but not enough to say I know Arabic... Would anyone be willing to answer the following questions? 1. Why do you personally reject the notion of the triune God? 2. How do you understand the concept of the Trinity? That is how would you describe it? in ISLAM there only one singular ALLAH but there is trinity in nature for the self the surrounding and the sustainer who sustains the self and the surroundings here is example SWEETSWORDS 35 [ Epistemological model of ILM ] 3 -2 -1 - 1 + 2 + 3 + 5 + 8 BISMILLAH Poga Humayun Dundiwala Setting is thus Man mineral and grass From this ignorant trinity Outcome the informative duality The divinity of minus and plus Beyond that the occult octagonal The force that sets three stages of fitrath nafs and aql Is the ilm of Illuminati ALLAH L a illa ha illel la MUHAMMAD ur rasul ALLAH Setting is this Dark ignorance stark information and illuminating ignis Then further on With ignition of neuron The sermon is this A single god in octagonal bliss Poga Say's in a foolington maze Let me present Science of stages and signs of veils Sharriatic messengers and marrifatic mail MUHAMMADAN reality and truth of ALLAH Foundation less Sufi and fundamental Mullah Let me present MUHAMMADAN reality and theory of everything Sharriatic hidden cube and marrifatic manifest ring MUHAMMADAN reality and fact of Allah La illa ha illel la MUHAMMAD ur rasul ALLAH

Tri Kaal Tri Netra Say's oh my fourth functional eye
The Holy ISLAMIC Tribune is the AL HAQQ
But the Christian Trinity is the lie
The Holy ISLAMIC TRIBUNE
Is the uncreated ALLAH the created PEN writing the vibrational QUN FA YA QUN
It is as simple as the doctor and the pen and the tablet
It is as simple as the chicken and the egg and the omelet
But the horrendous Trinity of the Christian Nasara
Where God comes not only to the youthful Mary but also to the old haggard Sara
NAU JU BILLAH MIN ZAALIK
Tri Kaal Tri Netra Say's there is nothing Pure and Holy in the Christan Tribune apart from the horrendous polluted SHIRK

Mr Barzakh Fitrath Ullah : The Ajanana Avidya The Ne science Laduni
The ilm e marrifa the knowledge Al Bateni
Mr Greenman Gupta ibn chlorophyll
Al Khidr's karma and Brahma's will
Now you know oh BE AQL BARZAKH'S field and his FAL
Now you know THE TRI KAL TRI NETRA the The three dimensional TRISMEGUSTUS HERMETICAL

from SWEETSWORDS 106 [ Sonorous Sigh ]

Warriorofelyon wrote: Hello, I am writing a Master's thesis discussing the Islamic view of God. This includes a discussion of the Christian understanding of the Trinity compared to how Muslim theologians understand it. I would like to be as fair and accurate as possible. Would anyone have any suggestions regarding Islamic texts that could be used the represent the Asharite theological school? Thanks!

Dear warriorofelyon how do you rate my data i hope you find them useful

Warriorofelyon wrote

LOVE
HOLY
MERCIFUL
COMPASSIONATE...

yes ALLAH is all that and more

ALLAH is FEAR

ALLAH is PUNISHER

ALLAH is AVENGER

ALLAH is DESTROYER

why do we need to go to you to learn your FABRICATION of trinity

are we suffocating with the TRUTH

if you have any evidence what can stand on solid science bring it hare on this forum on this thread

if you want  us to visit you

first say are you men or woman and how much you charge for hour for you service and what is it you provide

Warriorofelyon wrote: hey poga, I'm not quite sure what you are saying... Are you saying that Allah is eternally loving..and eternally those attributes that you listed? I will disregard your jabs...As my goal here is not to debate...but to gain an understanding... But if you are posting to respond to what I asked....then please respond to the entire post and my question regarding things and feelings...

of course ALLAH is eternal so are all his attribute there is nothing temporary about ALLAH

Warriorofelyon wrote: So....just like the God of the Bible then...He is Love....eternally..correct? Sorry....the imagery of love is something I think is vital....

imagery of love in BIBLE is vital because BIBLE is pornography

imagine god and Mary

or god and Sara

in AL QURAN no imagination is needed and yet it is very vital like guiding voice of ALLAH and lost humanity

Warriorofelyon wrote: poga wrote: Warriorofelyon wrote: So....just like the God of the Bible then...He is Love....eternally..correct? Sorry....the imagery of love is something I think is vital.... imagery of love in BIBLE is vital because BIBLE is pornography imagine god and Mary or god and Sara in AL QURAN no imagination is needed and yet it is very vital like guiding voice of ALLAH and lost humanity   1. If you are referencing "beget" as pornography...then you are mistaken my friend. "Beget" is NOT the accurate translation of the Greek work Monogenes' which means one of a kind or unique. It has NOTHING to do with biological paternity... 2. You still have not answered my question poga.... Would this mean that Allah is love much like the Bible calls Jehovah love... Since his attributes are eternal...love would "describe" him to some degree...By that I mean he did not "love" after he created man but because his "love" is eternal he is eternally a "loving" God? Does that make sense?

if want linguist go to DEAF and DUMB and learn about SANSKRIT OM

you say bore or beget or what ever we take your FALSE meaning that you say Jesus is son of GOD

we say the TRUTH there is only one ALLAH without father mother son or daughter and sister and brothers

love is emotion as like hate

in love we like the lovely feeling because it feels good

 in hate we abhor this because it feels bad

so if ALLAH is love so he will hate what is not love

if so then if we do very hate filled acts then through this action we can hurt ALLAH'S feeling

and if we can hurt someone then maybe we can hurt him so much that we can KILL him

no this all lie god is all love is the preaching of Christian monastic mice's

and through them it came in to ISLAM by the Sufiswines

As you say you want to do MASTERS  but i say first learn to be STUDENT

And Know ALLAH is not LOVE nor ALLAH is HATE but ALLAH is he created all emotions

i also like to take this opportunity to share with you mentioning name of my beloved

here it is bellow

The loving AL WADUD my loving mood my tear and laughter fear and depression
The loving AL WADUD my loving mood my passion and my affection

The loving AL WADUD my loving mood my bad and good
My Loving AL WADUD my prayer and despair my image and impression
My loving AL WADUD my loving mood My sensibility and sensation

The loving AL WADUD my beloved Mahmud my bad and good
My even and odd my beloved my MUHAMMAD
Sallel la hu alahi wa sallim
Blessed is my beloved he is the RAHMAT of RAHMANUR RAHIM

from SWEETSWORDS 32 [ Monad 11 ]

dear RAMI you said

IF love is a thing did Allah create it?

No he did not create it, i used the word thing simply to seperate it from Allahs essance not to imply it is created or has form.

Fitrath Nafs Aql and Ruh

this are all created essence

love and hate develops from NAFS

this are emotions ALLAH created for ADAM and JINN

Angels are free from emotions

all emotions are natural conditions of nature

ALLAH is free from all conditions he creates conditions and degree for all his creations

it is better for all of us if we have to place any attribute on ALLAH

if we are not 100% sure then just say i do not know and thats it

who say we have to know everything

Fitrath Nafs Aql and Ruh

this are all created essence

we are talking about things that both Humans and Allah share not things that are simply applicable to humans alone. im assuming by Aql you mean mind or brain and not intelligence.

love and hate develops from NAFS

for HUMANS they do yes but not all love does. to say all love is from the ego [nafs] is ignorant is love for allah from the nafs?.

this are emotions ALLAH created for ADAM and JINN

No since these emotions as allah knows them do not simply apply to humans and Jinn they apply to all of creation and we are the last to be created not the first, Allah certainly loves his Angels and he certainly loves creation or he would not have created it.

Angels are free from emotions.

And i just Quoted 3 hadith Qudsi saying allah loves and angels love. You are forgetting the whole point of my argument, the WHOLE point of my post is to say Allah loves diferently than humans do and he has no weakness or imperfection so how on earth can you sit there and and say no there is only one kind of love, human, and that is it.

all emotions are natural conditions of nature.

Not when they apply to Allah and not according to Islam, "The hearts of the believers are between the two fingers of Allah he turns them which ever way he likes".

ALLAH is free from all conditions he creates conditions and degree for all his creations

it is better for all of us if we have to place any attribute on ALLAH

if we are not 100% sure then just say i do not know and thats it

who say we have to know everything

And you are 100% certain about what you just said? subhanahllah.

warrior

before i answer any more of your question

i like to ask you one question

question is very simple please tell me what is the gender of love

also i like to let you know i lack any formal education therefore i struggle writing in prose because i lack the knowledge of grammar and punctuation marks

but here i was forced to write in prose and that was mistake from my part so from now on back to poetry

Mrs Be Aql Khan Usta : To me Mathematics of love is dote on
To you Mathematics of love is devotion
To me love is kinship
To you love is worship
Between us river of love flows as watch as two embankment
None of is lover here we are just two dead still strangers
Fighting the common enemy the live flowing current

Warriorofelyon wrote: Hello, I am writing a Master's thesis discussing the Islamic view of God. This includes a discussion of the Christian understanding of the Trinity compared to how Muslim theologians understand it. I would like to be as fair and accurate as possible. Would anyone have any suggestions regarding Islamic texts that could be used the represent the Asharite theological school? Thanks!

SWEETSWORDS 54 [ Episemological model of ILM ]

BISMILLAH

3 - 2 - 1 - 1 + 2 + 3 + 5 + 8 

Poga Humayun Dundiwala

At the beginning ALLAH created a number
Then expanded it to be the cubical chamber
With weighted dark soul as its papyrus heart
And NURANI ink as the mind to illuminate its glowing art

At the beginning ALLAH created a dot
Then expanded it with lines to be the MAHABOT
With its first dimensional seed and Second dimensional shoot
And third dimensional branch he created one cubical botanical boot

At the beginning ALLAH created one hero masculine number
Then divided it with his zero feminine member
With theirs Alif eructed phallus phi and pi circular vaginal sea
Waves was created as the sonar seed of every tree

Poga Say's in a Foolington Maze

At the beginning
The self within this surrounding
Asks who created me and the SANSAR
And finds him self in the trinity of creature creation and the creator
And from this trinity he chooses the path of informative duality between question and answer
It is here in the dual Path of Tariqath
The creature detaches him self from the creation and gains the creators Ilm E Marrifath
And unifies him self with the final one
And declares everything is GOD and be comes BE IMAN
This is the stage of FANAFILLAH
The cursed station where everything is ALLAH
From there only thing that can save him is another one
To ask what is the root cause of this creation
Because the self knows and testifies he is not the only creation there are many like him
And through process of opening the knots and binding the ties he find the rope of MUHAMMAD SALLEL LA HU ALAHI WA SALLIM
And ascends in the Fibonacci sequence of three two one one and two
He understands this three dimensional Duniya and its octagonal RUH
But this are only five out of eight Illuminating information
From the Islamic Ilm E Marrifa without limitation

Mr Barzakh Fitrath Ullah : The Setting of SANSAR
The Self within the Surrounding Sustained by the Sustainer
It as simple as the fuel and the flame
And the by product of light what glows with its creators name
It as simple as the provider and the provision and the consumer and the by product
The four living and dead conduct for the single resurrect
These are the reality of cosmic dust and aquatic muck
It is the reality of the fabricated filthy Duniya and reality pure true HAQQ
The four reality darkness and four of light
The hot moving fire dying to be alive and bright
Four of darkness the non emotional feel
The silence darkness dead cold still
It as simple as the Niche the Lamp and the Oil and the NOOR UN ALA NOOR
It As simple as the pious feeder with pure food sustaining natural hungry consumer for the by product of filthy manure
It as simple as the Niche represents the sustainer and the Lamp represents the diner
The Oil is the pure food and the fire is the filthy shiner
The filthy crystal the shining mud
The by product of the NOOR and the WATER the MEN with the meat bone and blood
It is here we learn the setting of the space and distance what came about by the light
But this light came about by the olive TREE what is without distance and direction but with sound and sight
It is the TREE what begets all time matter space and sound therefore it is the wooden KURSI
The seven heaven the seven oceans all the Duniya are all branches of that cosmological TREE
It is when we learn this TREE is the NIECHE what begets all east west all the distance and all the direction
Yet even this KURSI is also within the ARSH the Divine THRONE
And it is ALLAH who occupys the ARSH by his might
Nothing can reach him Because KURSI is the PARDAH what captures all the direction all hearing all the sight
Only the limit mortal can go to is up to the KURSI
Therefore he who Say's he can reach ALLAH without KURSI he is committing the heresy
Nothing can reach ALLAH without the KURSI but ALLAH can come to whom he will
Because without ALLAH nothing can go anywhere all will remain standstill
Therefore setting is thus
The driver the passenger the patrol and the omnibus
They drive on
By the boat of armageddon
Through the route of the MUHAMMADAN KURSI
Toward the ALLAH'S THRONE
They drive on
Toward the front of pure burn offerings with the filth of backward radiation

i have a habit of asking questions then finding weblinks that can answer my question... sorry..

but here is a interesting weblink that provides the view of love in many ayats in the Quran

http://www.answering-islam.de/Main/Quran/Themes/love.htm - http://www.answering-islam.de/Main/Quran/Themes/love.htm

 Al Quran 3:31: (O prophet) Say (to the people), "If you love Allah then follow me. You will become the beloved of Allah. He will forgive you your sins..."

 The above verse tells that God loves mankind. It is the love that solves problems, not the hatred.

layalee wrote: i have a habit of asking questions then finding weblinks that can answer my question... sorry.. but here is a interesting weblink that provides the view of love in many ayats in the Quran http://www.answering-islam.de/Main/Quran/Themes/love.htm - http://www.answering-islam.de/Main/Quran/Themes/love.htm

 Layalee, very good, I have followed the link and found that information about love very useful. Specially, one name (attribute)  of Allah is "Al-Wadud" the loving One. Thanks.