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    Posted: 09 April 2007 at 5:40pm

I could not find a sub-section or forum on (geographic location) �Oceania� so I decided to post this here, for those who might be interested.

 

In this section of George Orwell�s Nineteen Eighty-Four, O�Brien, a member of the Inner Party, has seen to it that a copy of the forbidden work, Goldstein�s �the book�, is passed to Outer Party and troubled member, Winston Smith, who is, of course, breaking the law and risking death by reading it.  In the book, Goldstein, the invisible yet omnipresent traitor of the revolution and Big Brother's nemesis, articulates the logic of the totalitarian ideology which underlies Oceania.

 

Winston reads what Goldstein writes:

 

�� In this capacity as an administrator, it is often necessary for a member of the Inner Party to know that this or that item of war news in untruthful, and he may often be aware that the entire war is spurious and is either not happening or is being waged for purposes quite other than the declared ones; but such knowledge is easily neutralized by the technique of doublethink.  Meanwhile no Inner Party member wavers for an instant in his mystical belief that the war is real, and that it is bound to end victoriously, with Oceania the undisputed master of the entire world ...�

 

Now, without making any connections, but if only as an exercise in how art, in this case, literature, quite often seems to almost imitate life, consider this, from the Washington Post:

 

How Bogus Letter Became a Case for War
Intelligence Failures Surrounded Inquiry on Iraq-Niger Uranium Claim

 

By Peter Eisner
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, April 3, 2007; A01

 

It was 3 a.m. in Italy on Jan. 29, 2003, when President Bush in Washington began reading his State of the Union address that included the now famous -- later retracted -- 16 words: "The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

 

� CIA Director George J. Tenet had vetted the text of Bush's speech and was able to persuade the White House to drop one questionable claim: that Iraq was seeking uranium in Africa. The information was too fishy, Tenet explained to the National Security Council and Bush's speechwriters ��

 

Serv

 

Ref:

Orwell, George, Nineteen Eighty-Four, Harcourt, Brace & World, Inc., 1949, pp. 193-194

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04 /02/AR2007040201777_pf.html



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Serv, it is a dangerous thing to be the single voice of reason, so if you
don't mind, I'll join you.

Isn't it possible that life actually imitates art, in this case? The Bush
Dogma seems to be taking its script almost word for word from Orwell:

Washingtonpost.com
Orwell at Guantanamo
By Eugene Robinson
Tuesday, April 3, 2007; Page A23

Here's what the Bush administration has done to the values, traditions
and honor of the United States of America: An accused terrorist claims he
confessed to heinous crimes so that agents of the U.S. government would
stop torturing him, and no one is shocked or even surprised. There's
reason to believe, in fact, that what the suspect says about torture is
probably true.

There's also reason to doubt that the suspect -- Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri,
held in U.S. custody without charges for more than four years -- is the
Zelig-like innocent bystander he claims to be. But we can't be sure,
because George W. Bush disgraced himself and his country by ordering
extrajudicial kidnappings of suspects in the war on terror, indefinite
secret detention and interrogation by "alternative" methods that the
civilized world calls torture.

On Friday, the Defense Department released a heavily redacted transcript
of a March 14 hearing, held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to determine
whether Nashiri should be classified as an "enemy combatant." I
apologize for resorting to cliche, but the only way to describe this
amazing, infuriating document is to call it Orwellian. Reading it gives you
the chills.

None of the members of the military tribunal sitting in judgment is
named. The officer serving as Nashiri's "personal representative" likewise
is not named. Unclassified evidence is presented in summary -- an
unnamed "recorder" reads a document quoting statements by witnesses
that attest to Nashiri's involvement in the 1998 bombings of U.S.
embassies in Tanzania and Kenya, in which 224 people died, and the
2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 U.S. sailors. The witnesses
are not present, so, of course, there is no opportunity to challenge their
statements.

Nashiri's representative, a lieutenant commander in the Navy, presents a
stunning response: "The Detainee states that he was tortured into
confession and once he made a confession his captors were happy and
they stopped torturing him. Also, the Detainee states that he made up
stories during the torture in order to get it to stop."

The response states that Nashiri confessed under torture not only to the
East Africa and USS Cole bombings but also to the 2002 bombing of the
French oil tanker Limburg, some bombings and rocket attacks in Saudi
Arabia, a plan to bomb American ships in the Persian Gulf, and "a plan to
hijack a plane and crash it into a ship." Oh, and he also told investigators
that Osama bin Laden had acquired a nuclear bomb.

"I just said those things to make the people happy," Nashiri tells the
tribunal. "They were very happy when I told them those things."

One gets the sense that he would have confessed to the murders of
Tupac Shakur and Biggie Smalls if that would have made his interrogators
happy.

Nashiri denies having anything to do with terrorism, although he
acknowledges taking money from bin Laden. He paints himself --
unconvincingly, in my view -- as a simple merchant who makes poor
choices in friends and has a habit of being in the wrong place at the
wrong time.

The Navy captain serving as president of the tribunal gets around to
asking Nashiri about the alleged torture. Who did it? They were
Americans, Nashiri says. When did it happen? "From the time I was
arrested five years ago, they have been torturing me."

Only George Orwell could have written what comes next in the transcript.
The following is what we are allowed to know of Nashiri's response when
asked how he was tortured:

"What else do I want to say? [REDACTED]. Many things happened. There
were doing so many things. What else did they did? [REDACTED]. They do
so many things. So so many things. What else did they did? [REDACTED].
After that another method of torture began. [REDACTED]. They used to
ask me questions and the investigator after that used to laugh. And, I
used to answer the answer that I knew. And, if I didn't reply what I heard,
he used to [REDACTED]. So many things happened. I don't in summary,
that's basically what happened."

I guess that's how the U.S. government extracts information from
detainees: [REDACTED].

The Pentagon told reporters that Nashiri's claims were censored because
of "national security concerns" about disclosing where detainees were
held and how they were treated. But that would be unnecessary if Nashiri
were lying, since no harm could come from disclosing a bunch of made-
up stories. The censorship makes sense only if some or all of what
Nashiri alleges is true.

But we're not permitted to know what he alleges.

Orwell had it figured out: "Ignorance is Strength.
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That was interesting and thanks for the post and speaking up, Duende.  I missed seeing that one in the Post.  Given that he is a professional writer, earning a living, it was probably necessary that the author, Eugene Robinson, try to avoid clich�s, but, as far as I am concerned, George Orwell is one of the men, or people, of the hour and his writings are treasure troves for English readers.  It is hardly trite to either read or refer to them, though it may at times seem so.

 

Interestingly �or, rather, coincidentally- enough, too, Mr. Robinson ended his article quoting the very slogan, �Ignorance is Strength,� that Goldstein was in part explicating in his above paragraph.

 

Sometimes, when I read stuff like this:

 

Robert Fisk wrote:
It is we, the British at home, who are not supposed to believe in torture. The Iraqis know all about it - and who knew all about Mousa�s fate long before I reported it for The Independent on Sunday.

Because it�s really all about shutting the reality of the Middle East off from us. It�s to prevent the British and American people from questioning the immoral and cruel and internationally illegal occupation of Muslim lands ...

 

I am reminded of this section of Nineteen Eighty-Four:

 

�One of these days, thought Winston with sudden deep conviction, Syme will be vaporized.  He is too intelligent.  He sees too clearly and speaks too plainly.  The Party does not like such people.  One day he will disappear.  It is written in his face ...

 

�There is a word in Newspeak,� said Syme.  �I don�t know whether you [Winston] know it: duckspeak, to quack like a duck.  It is one of those interesting words that have two contradictory meanings.  Applied to an opponent, it is abuse; applied to someone you agree with, it is praise.�

 

Unquestionably Syme will be vaporized, Winston thought again ...�

 

By the way, I am only reminded of this portion of the book because of Mr. Fisk�s refreshingly forthright style, not because I equate him with Syme or Syme�s fate.  For that matter, I don�t even necessarily (always) identify with Winston.  It is, again, just a case of art imitating life and vice versa.

 

 

Serv

Ref. op. cit. (pp. 53-55) 

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/fisk/article2430125.ece





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