New, trying to be open minded

Neima Abduljeli

There is plenty of talk and debate about Muslim countries. Since we had
already touched on Latin America I wanted to see what might come about
from my last post, espescially from crasss who's posts (here and on other
topics) I have considered extreme.

On Iraq and the cost of the war I cannot argue. It was in my opinion a gross
mistake on our part, but not to say I would not go to Iraq and serve my
country if I was called on.

Anyway - I think we are well past introductions and should probably move
future discussion to more appropriate topics.

Peace and blessings of Allah be up on all of us.

Oh, Crass now there is no need for me to argue with enjoying life.  You replied the answers objectively.  Allah bless you. 

Crass don't you think that the common folks may not understand the hidden agenda of the Americans who are in power? (some do not watch TVs, some donot follow up nternational events etc..) There are stuffs that governments deal without concerning the citizens.  But at the end it is the fellow citizens who pay for the consequences.

I also have questions for enjoying life.  As you described what America contributed to the Latin Americans (you didn't mention any thing about the Muslim countries), do you have the statistics ( by the way you are good in data analysis  statistically) of the military campaigns of America? (Muslim Countries versus other countries).  How do you justify the amount spent on military campaigns which is expended from the taxes collected from the American citizens?  What could have been the contribution to the world economy ( even for the American economy) if it was used for peaceful activities? or do you think the amount spent on this, as law enforcement expenditure to safeguard the interests of the American tycoons in the foregn lands?

We-Selam

 

Crasss- where are you from?

Here are some good topics for you to pick apart and to help back up your
claim if you want: (Source the White House)

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The President Is Committed To Helping Democracies In The Western
Hemisphere:

Build government institutions that are fair, effective, and free of
corruption;
Meet basic needs like education, healthcare, and housing; and
Maintain economies that make it possible for workers to provide for their
families and rise in society.
New Initiatives For The Western Hemisphere

The President Announced He Will Send The USNS Comfort      A Navy
Medical Ship      To Latin America And The Caribbean. The Comfort will
make port calls in Belize, Guatemala, Panama, Nicaragua, El Salvador,
Peru, Ecuador, Colombia, Haiti, Trinidad and Tobago, Guyana, and
Suriname. Its doctors, nurses, and healthcare professionals expect to
treat 85,000 patients      and conduct up to 1,500 surgeries. The
Comfort will also partner with the U.S. Department of Health and Human
Services on a new initiative to provide oral care to the region's poor.

At The Same Time, Military Medical Teams Will Operate To Help Bring
Treatment And Care To Other Communities. This year, the Department of
Defense and the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps will
partner to provide medical care through 62 Medical Readiness Training
Exercises in 14 countries in the Western Hemisphere.

The President Also Announced A Healthcare Professional Training Center
In Panama That Will Serve All Of Central America. This Center will teach
students how to be good nurses, technicians, and health care workers.
The President Announced A New Partnership For Latin American Youth To
Help Thousands More Young People Improve Their English And Have The
Opportunity To Study In The United States. This three-year, $75 million
initiative includes English language training; home-country and U.S.-
based study; helping students apply for and win scholarships; and skills
development to improve students' ability to gain employment.

The President Directed Secretary Of State Condoleezza Rice And Treasury
Secretary Henry Paulson To Develop A New Initiative That Will Help U.S.
And Local Banks Improve Their Ability To Extend Good Loans To Small
Businesses. Increasing access to capital throughout Latin America and the
Caribbean will help its entrepreneurs create new jobs and opportunity for
their fellow citizens.

The United States Is Launching A New Effort To Help Build A Market For
Affordable Housing. Through the Overseas Private Investment
Corporation (OPIC), the U.S. has provided more than $100 million to help
underwrite mortgages to working families in Mexico, Brazil, Chile, and the
countries of Central America. The U.S. will now provide an additional
$385 million to expand these programs and help put the dream of home
ownership within reach of thousands more people.

The Administration Will Convene A White House Conference On The
Western Hemisphere. This conference will bring together representatives
from the private sector, non-governmental organizations, faith-based
groups, and volunteer associations to discuss more effective ways to
deliver aid and build the institutions of civic society.

Since 2004, The U.S. Has Provided More Than $150 Million For Education
Programs In Latin America And The Caribbean. U.S.-funded education
programs include:

Centers Of Excellence For Teacher Training (CETT) Initiative: In 2001,
President Bush announced the CETT initiative to strengthen literacy
instruction across the region. Since 2002, CETT has trained nearly 15,000
teachers, and it plans to train 3,330 more in 2007. By 2009, CETT will
have trained 20,000 teachers in the region, and will have improved the
literacy skills of 650,000 poor and disadvantaged students.

The U.S. Department Of State Hemisphere-Wide English Teaching
Initiative: Launched in 2006, the initiative provides $500,000 to fund
micro-scholarships and English teaching programs, supporting English
studies for nearly 12,000 students.
Since 2001, The U.S. Has Invested Almost $1 Billion To Improve Health
Through USAID Programs In Latin America And The Caribbean.

U.S. Funding For HIV/AIDS Programs In Latin America And The Caribbean
Has Grown From $22 Million In 2001 To A Planned Level Of Over $143
Million In 2007. Haiti and Guyana are focus countries in the President's
Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR).     We are also supporting
programs in Bolivia, the Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Guatemala,
Honduras, Jamaica, Mexico, Nicaragua, Peru, and a regional program in
the Caribbean.
Helping Build Economies That Allow Workers To Provide For Their
Families And Rise In Society

The United States Government Led The G-8 Debt Reduction Initiative To
Provide $4.8 Billion In Multilateral Debt Relief To Some Of The Poorest
Countries In The Americas.

The Administration Is Implementing An Agenda To Promote Job Creation
And Equal Opportunity For All Residents Of The Western Hemisphere.

The Administration has negotiated trade agreements with 10 countries in
Latin America and the Caribbean, with three     Peru, Colombia, and
Panama pending Congressional approval.
In 2006, CAFTA-DR entered into force for Nicaragua, El Salvador,
Guatemala, and Honduras. And on March 1, 2007, CAFTA-DR entered
into force for the Dominican Republic.
Countries with U.S. trade agreements in the Western Hemisphere
comprise two-thirds of the region's overall GDP.
The Administration is now working for a strong agreement in the Doha
round of global trade talks that will help level the playing field for
farmers, workers, and small businesses throughout the Western
hemisphere.
U.S. Assistance To Latin America And The Caribbean Extends Far Beyond
Government Initiatives.

USAID has registered more than 300 U.S.-based non-governmental
organizations working in Latin America.
In 2005, U.S. companies invested $353 billion in Latin America and the
Caribbean. Foreign affiliates of U.S. companies have employed 1.6 million
people in Mexico, the Caribbean, and Central and South America.
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One thing I will say, all this enslavement costs way to much money. My
tax dollars.

Edited by enjoyinglife

Peace and blessings of Allah be up n all of us.

 

Now you started to be open minded.  You started accepting the weaknesses of US.  Whether you like it or not if your country does things which are positive, we don�t praise Bush. (we don�t say Bush sent the Wheat and oil for relief aid.  We say we have got food aid from America.)  For the negative one also it is the Americans who are going to be blamed.  I think some of the debates which can change the American�s face in a major way must be changed in to action plans which can be implemented strategically. 

 

About this site ,there is a saying in management.  Without failures you can�t have success stories.  There is a need of failing businesses to analyze them and counter act on failures.  Just have positive thinking.  Don�t always be on the defensive side.  Try to understand what caused this hatred.  The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be up on him) said that for every negative thing people are doing, look at it reasonably (Be kind to give them justification why they did this). I strongly disagree with the killings in both sides.  But the discussion in this site will open a new gate for the better understanding of each other which at the end will bring us to have a harmonious life.  Any ways, if we are not greedy and if we can exchange resources fairly, the world�s resources are more than enough for the existing population and the next Generation. It is Allah who bestows his blessings to his creatures to have these resources.  And Allah knows best.

 

My country uses Federal system since it has different nations and nationalities.  And there is discrimination between the nations and nationalities.  Even you can see different social status with in a tribe.  As America entertains more than my country it is inevitable to see this.  What I discussed with you is from individual�s point of view.  Nobody wants to be disrespected and discriminated. (Killings will be more than disliking).

 

About the Latino Americans I just red the news from Yahoo, Bush visited 5 countries and Chavez (if I am not mistaken about his name- I didn�t want to go back to see the news), started counter visit.  I don�t know if the difference is not as it is presented in the media.  What I wanted to highlight is that, these days, there is an increasing trend that America�s foreign policy is seen negatively by different countries. 

 

About the equality of human beings Allah says I created you in different nations and nationalities for you to know each other.  The nobler one is the one who fears and knows god and who is on the right path.  As herjihad mentioned it the righteous who have virtue to just worship god will go to heaven.

 

We-selam