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    Posted: 06 April 2005 at 2:04pm

In July 1990, during a conference on women issues, held in Montreal (Canada) � An Egyptian feminist Dr. Nawal Saadawi was hunted down by the Jewish and Christian feminists participants for equating Islam with their religion. � For her politically incorrect statements included: the most restrictive elements towards women can be found first in Judaism in the Old Testament then in Christianity and then in the Qur�an.

 

After hearing this episode of non-Muslims� hatred and ignorance � Dr. Sherif Abdel Azim wrote a interesting rebuttal to the western myths about the treatment of women in Islam as follows:

 

The three religions agree on one basic fact: Both women and men are created by God, The Creator of the whole universe. However, disagreement starts soon after the creation of the first man, Adam, and the first woman, Eve. The Judaeo-Christian conception of the creation of Adam and Eve is narrated in detail in Genesis 2:4-3:24. God prohibited both of them from eating the fruits of the forbidden tree. The serpent seduced Eve to eat from it and Eve, in turn, seduced Adam to eat with her. When God rebuked Adam for what he did, he put all the blame on Eve, The woman you put here with me --she gave me some fruit from the tree and I ate it; Consequently, God said to Eve: I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband and he will rule over you. To Adam He said: Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree .... Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat of it all the days of your life....

 

The Islamic conception of the first creation is found in several places in the Quran, for example:


O Adam dwell with your wife in the Garden and enjoy as you wish but approach not this tree or you run into harm and transgression. Then Satan whispered to them in order to reveal to them their shame that was hidden from them and he said: 'Your Lord only forbade you this tree lest you become angels or such beings as live forever.' And he swore to them both that he was their sincere adviser. So by deceit he brought them to their fall: when they tasted the tree their shame became manifest to them and they began to sew together the leaves of the Garden over their bodies. And their Lord called unto them: 'Did I not forbid you that tree and tell you that Satan was your avowed enemy?' They said: 'Our Lord we have wronged our own souls and if You forgive us not and bestow not upon us Your Mercy, we shall certainly be lost -  Holy Qur�an 7:19:23.

 

A careful look into the two accounts of the story of the Creation reveals some essential differences. The Qur�an, contrary to the Bible, places equal blame on both Adam and Eve for their mistake. Nowhere in the Qur�an can one find even the slightest hint that Eve tempted Adam to eat from the tree or even that she had eaten before him. Eve in the Qur�an is no temptress, no seducer, and no deceiver. Moreover, Eve is not to be blamed for the pains of childbearing. Allah, according to the Qur�an, punishes no one for another's faults. Both Adam and Eve committed a sin and then asked Allah for forgiveness and He forgave them both.
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Thank you for posting this and hopefully much more in the future Tongue
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I find more bitter than death
the woman who is a snare,
whose heart is a trap
and whose hands are chains.
The man who pleases God will escape her,
but the sinner she will ensnare.

--Ecclesiastes 7:26


Hohum. So many bible verses to choose from, I don't know where to start. Paul, in the NT has some dandies, so it's just not the OT.

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Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.
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If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.
--1 Corinthians 11


Horse a piece, if you ask me :shrug:

Some people before you asked questions, and on that account lost their faith.
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If one takes the premise that I do you understand Islam has existed since the begining of time and Islam is always evolving and has many paths such as Judaism, Christianity, Sunni Islam, Shia Islam, Hindu, Buddhists so it is my belief that Islam will evolve over time and this process of evolution involves everyone and all our spiritual paths regardless of what they are.

So what you call Islam today is not what it is going to be tommorrow.....

However the key elements will be in each expression of their spiritual path, education, counseling, consultationj, prayer with living prayers and Hajj starting with self, family, friends, community, Nation and world seeing what is your portion in making yourself, your family, your community, Nation Hrealthier and Happier.



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Judgement day passes in the moment we decide something needs attention & we take positive action. Then there will be a great sorting out of people into groups, Inspired by Surah 99 Ayat 1-8
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