Pagan culture of Christian Doctrine

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   What muslims don't realise is that Christianity existed before Constantine, such that Constantine could have not created Christianity. Moreover, Constantine's mother was already a Christian, a catholic in this case. 

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chopanito Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Starter. Christianity Joined: 01 April 2021 Location: America Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote chopanito Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 April 2021 at 2:28pm
	What muslims don't realise is that Christianity existed before Constantine, such that Constantine could have not created Christianity. Moreover, Constantine's mother was already a Christian, a catholic in this case.

dustystranger Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Starter. Female Christian Joined: 15 May 2021 Location: Florida Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote dustystranger Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 May 2021 at 1:01pm
	This is true. Some groups considering themselves Christian, but which are cults, try to say that Constantine shaped Christianity. That is ludicrous.

DavidC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Male Christian Joined: 20 September 2001 Location: Florida USA Status: Offline Points: 2474	Post Options Post Reply Quote DavidC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2021 at 9:23am
	Constantine did substantially shape Christianity. When he made Christianity the state religion of Rome he created a need for public worship and the codification of the Bible. It also resulted in schism of the non-Roman churches. Of note to Islamic scholars per hadith the Prophet Muhummad was primarily influenced by Nestorian and Ebionite (Judaic) Christians. His prophethood was first proclaimed by a Nestorian hermit (Ibn Sa’d I/1, 83) and Kadijah’s first cousin Waraqah, an Ebionite bishop who was present and proclaimed, “Holy, holy!” when Muhummad first described his visitation by Gabriel and the angel’s command to “Recite!” (Ibn Ishāq, 153-4). Considering Waraqah then swore his support for Muhummad (ibid) it seems reasonable to consider a Christian to be the first proto-muslim. But Constantinian Christianity does not seem particularly relevant. References from Martin Lings’, Muhummad.
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2Acts Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 22 March 2015 Status: Offline Points: 143	Post Options Post Reply Quote 2Acts Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 July 2021 at 4:01pm
	Well said David C. What Rehmat is too scared to admit is that Islam has its beginnings in paganism. Shirk ! Look at the Haj for instance. Pagan !