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 Seekshidayath had correctly answered the problem. I have now seen the verse 31:34 i.e. the last verse of Surah Luqman. It says "Allah knows what is in the womb". I does not say that only Allah knows what is in the womb.

 If the doctors can find out too then there is no harm. But it is told clearly in that verse that ONLY Allah knows what a person will earn/ do tomorrow and Only Allah knows  in which land a person will die. That is something exclusive. But not the matter of the womb. Please see.



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25:59 He who has created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six aeons, and is established on the throne of His almightiness: <>Asad(25,46) truetruetruetruetruetrue&-#">[46] the Most Gracious! Ask, then, about Him, [the] One who is [truly] aware. <>Asad(25,47) truetruetruetruetruetrue&-#">[47]

ALLAH occupies the throne by his might

but one might say how doe's the throne looks like

the diagram of the throne is macrocosmic design of holy KAABA

it is same as the ARK OF NUH alahi wa sallim

it is same as the design of sephira and menorah given to ADAM alahi wa sallim by angel RAZAIL

it is the design of genetic double helleix and whole diagram was given to humanity by my LORD MUHAMMAD Sallel La Hu Alahi Wa Sallim

HERE IS THE DESIGN

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SWEETSWORDS 84 [ Estimate of Kursi and Arsh ]

BISMILLAH

By Poga Humayun Dundiwala

When there was nothing
There was the vacuum
The illuminating womb of all fire
Without smoke without fume
When there was nothing
There was the empty carcass
The Nur Un Ala Nur body
Without fire without ash

When there was nothing
There was the desert
The illuminating ring of fire
With the glowing Nurani art
When there was nothing
There was the empty carcass
The Nur Un Ala Nur Chairman
Under the ALLAH'S ARSH

Poga Say's in a Foolington Maze

When there was nothing
There was the KURSI
The creative cubical truth
Destroying all circular heresy
When there was nothing
There was the fulfilled heart
In order to reveal its love and peace
It created an written art
The art of pen tablet and ink
When there was no spoken words
There was the written alphabetic link

Hermes Said true it is without falsehood
Only AL HAQQ reside there in the blessed shelter house the MAKAM E MAHMOOD
Certain and most true that which above is like that of bellow
That is the one and only the singular solo
Hermes said truth written in honest alphabet
He said it in the  potion of leaves and in emerald tablet

Hanuman Say's it is for sure oh Lord Raam
Draw one unified kingdom with ten different realm
Now from ten names take the first letter
And learn for sure
What needs to be known in past present and in future
Hanuman Say's it is for sure oh Lord Raam
It is one and only nameless kingdom with ten different Naam

Jesus Said when you make the two one and inside like outside
And outside like inside 
And when you make male and female the unified small whole with the great divide
So that male be not male and female be not female then you will the Kingdom
Jesus Said when you make two one and one two you will reach the house of wisdom

Prophet MUHAMMAD Sallel La Hu Alahi Wa Sallam Said
Glory be to ALLAH and praises as great as his the number of his slave Animal
Extent of his satisfaction and the weight of his Raj Mahal
And the ink needed to write down its countless Sign
Prophet MUHAMMAD Sallel La Hu Alahi Wa Sallam Said
The only Footprint leads to the design of that house is the digram of my NA LAYNN

Dr Muhammad Tahir Ul Qadri Said
Mim has circular symptom its key role is to create the spin
And the Cubical Eternal lock spun open for infinity in the land of Jinn
He raveled the golden phi spiraling consciousness of Mim in the Shell
He said there they live in the Mim circular Sansar for Immortality of Heaven and Hell
There they western Nasara scholars with partial of arches built theirs Fibonacci housing success
Yet while easter Muslim scholars by learning the whole of the ignitron arc be came the Homeless Darvesh

Barzakh : I have two pockets one empty on full
One sheepskin jacket one jumper wool
These are two conditions of this creation
Solid death and fragile living vibration
Therefore oh BE AQL
ALLAH is beyond my reach of space but within my call
Space the void Gullah
Is the circular NURANI ring of MUHAMMAD RASUL ALLAH
The ring is within the cubical KURSI
The ironic footstool of the golden emcee
Bellow him
Muhammad Sallel La Hu Alahi Wa Sallim
Is the water
Above him is the throne of the creator
This are the Kissa of The Kursi and Arsh
Of hidden creator and his phantom carcass

Be Aql : His throne was above the water
It doesn't mean something was in between the water and the creator
Therefore don't create FITNA else there will be fight
Oh BARZAKH tear of you dark veil and come to the light

Barzakh : When his ARSH was above the water
Where was the KURSI
My BARZAKH is my clear soul
While your mind is full of doubtful heresy
My veil is my marrifatic identity
While your hijab is your sharriatic mask
You the kernel of the seed what do you know about the garden
While you can't see even beyond your own husk

Be Aql : As my bodily husk dies away
My kernel go through the earth toward the heavenly way
My shoot continuously prospers as tree in well tended garden
While other carcass grows as unattended graveyard grass to be continuously chew-en and eaten
And end up as dung
As wise manure Freud and learned muck Jung
There theirs every evil scheme every satanic Naqsha
Fails to design the phantom Baitul Mamaur or the physical Masjidul Aqsa

Barzakh : The Naqsha that occupies in and out
The Naqsh of cubical solid sight and the circular liquid shout
The Naqsha that fulfills every Naqshbandi Arif
The Naqsh of the cubical KAABA the treasure map of all foot mark followers of the Na Laynn Sharrif
The Naqsh that begins with the straight Siratul Mustaqim line
And Travels to grow toward all square sign
Then with the dividing two dimensional diagonals
Creates the first house of the three dimensional cubicles
It is the first house the ARSH of ALLAH
Bellow it is another cube The KURSI of MUHAMMAD UR RASUL ALLAH
Within the KURSI there is another diagonal line
Between Cathode and Anode for the ignotronic arc MUHAMMADAN sign
These are the Naqsh of the empty dark desert and the glowing Nurani ring
The straight organic iron with every spinning electronic beginning

Be Aql : What creates the spin
The Feminine nuts or bolts Masculine
Is It the cubical cross shivam screw driver
Or zero functional Pravathi's Circular SANSAR
What creates the spin
Is It The cubical Clayish INASAN
Or the circular Iblis sparkle JINN

Barzakh : The manifest cough lough and sneeze
Scented scenery and hidden breeze
Unseen symptom and visual sign
Hidden plane and manifest line
These are two sequence of the three state of the AWAZ
The manifest AL ZAHIR the hidden AL BATIN and the illusion AL MIRAGE
These are our past present future three straight separate lines unified by the triangle
These are three separate lines what creates this continuous spinning cycle by the arc of angle
It is here
In this chair
Where NOOR glows from its inner angular NICHE
It is here
To this chair
To whom the ARSH beseech
It is here in this chair
Where diagram of one mortal sandal provides the eight infinite immortal sign
It is here
In this chair
Where lays the diagram of macrocosm in the MUHAMMADAN NA LAYNN


Kitaab At-Tawheed, Chapter: 64

What Has Been Said About Allah's Words: " They Made Not a Just Estimate of Allah"

Allah , says:


" No just estimate have they made of Allah, such as is due to Him: On the Day of Resurrection, the whole earth will be in His Grasp and the heavens will be rolled up in His right Hand. Glory to Him! High is He above the partners they attribute to Him" (Qur'an 39:67)

Allah , Most Glorified, Most High, informs us in this verse that the polytheists do not glorify Allah as is His right, because they worship others beside Him, when He is the Owner of everything and Able to do all things: He will hold the whole world and the heavens and the earth in His right Hand on the Day of Resurrection and He is Exalted far above that which they attribute to Him.

Benefits Derived From This Verse


1. That those who worship others beside Allah do not glorify Him as is His right upon them.

2. The obligation to glorify Allah and to abstain from attributing to Him that which does not befit His Majesty.

3. Confirmation of Allah possessing Hands in a manner befitting His Majesty.

Relevance of This Verse to the Subject of the Chapter and to the Subject of Tawheed

That it proves the obligation to glorify Allah as is His right which means by affirming His Oneness (Islamic Monotheism) and abstaining from Shirk.

..ooOOoo..

It is reported on the authority of Ibn Mas'ood (ra) that he said: "Arabbi came to Allah's Messenger and said: "Oh, Muhammad ! We are told that Allah will put all the heavens on one Finger and the earths on one Finger and the trees on one Finger and the water and the dust on one Finger and all the other created beings on one Finger. Then He will say: "I am the King." Thereupon, the Prophet laughed until his molar teeth were visible and this was confirmation of the rabbi's words. Then he recited: "" No just estimate have they made of Allaah such as is due to Him: On the Day of Resurrection, the whole of the earth will be in His Grasp" ." In another narration by Muslim, it is stated: "...and the mountains and the trees on one Finger, then He will shake them saying: "I am the King, I am Allah." In a narration of Bukhari, it is said: "Allah will put the heavens on one Finger and the rest of creation on one Finger."

Ibn Mas'ood (ra) informs us in this Hadith that a Jewish rabbi came to the Prophet and told him that they, the Jews, had found in their Scriptures that on the Day of Judgement Allah will place the heavens on one Finger, the earths on one Finger, the trees on one Finger, the water on one Finger and the dust on one Finger; and in another narration, that He will place the water on one Finger and all of the rest of creation on another Finger. Thus will He reveal something of His Might and Power and His complete control over all affairs and His sole right to be worshipped.

Benefits Derived From This Hadith


1. The agreement between the Scripture of the Jews and Islam, in that they both confirm that Allah has Fingers, though they are unlike our fingers and exactly how they are is unknown to us.

2. Evidence of Allah's Might and His Ability to do all things.

3. That laughter for a specific reason is not bad manners.

4. The obligation to accept the truth, whatever its source.

5. Confirmation of two of Allah's Divine Names: (i) Allah , which constitutes proof of Allah's sole right to be worshipped and (ii) Al-Malik (the King), which proves His Divine Attribute of Ownership.

6. Confirmation of Allah's Divine Attribute of Speech in a manner befitting His Majesty.

Relevance of This Hadith to the Subject of the Chapter and to the Subject of Tawheed

That the Hadith proves the obligation to glorify Allah through Tawheed and by abstaining from every kind of Shirk.

..ooOOoo..

Muslim narrates, on the authority of Ibn `Umar (ra) in a marfoo' form: "Allah will fold up the heavens on the Day of Resurrection and then He will take them in His right Hand and say: "I am the King, where are the tyrants? Where are the arrogant ones?" Then He will fold up the seven earth and take them in His left Hand and say: "I am the King, where are the tyrants? where are the arrogant ones?"

Ibn `Umar (ra) informs us that he heard from the Prophet that on the Day of Judgement, Allah , Most Glorified, Most High, will fold up the seven heavens and take them in His right Hand and He will fold up the seven earth and take them in His left Hand and as He folds each of them, He will call forth the tyrants and the arrogant people, making them realise their insignificance by His Words: "I am the King." - i.e. He is the true Owner of all things; He is Perfect in every respect and there is no weakness or defect in Him and that all those who claim kingship or sovereignty are in fact weak and feeble, powerless in His Grasp. He will not be asked about what He does, but they will be asked.

Benefits Derived From This Hadith


1. Confirmation of Allah's possessing two Hands, right and left.

2. Confirmation of Allah's Divine Attribute of Speech in a manner befitting His Majesty.

3. Confirmation of Allah's Name: Al-Malik (the King), from which is inferred His Ownership of all things.

4. Evidence that there are seven earths.

5. The forbiddance of tyranny and arrogance.

6. Evidence of Allah's Perfection and infallibility.

Relevance of This Hadith to the Subject of the Chapter and to the Subject of Tawheed

That the Hadith proves the obligation to glorify Allah , Almighty All-powerful, by Declaring and practising Tawheed in all one's affairs and abstaining from all manner of Shirk.

..ooOOoo..

It is reported on the authority of Ibn `Abbas (ra) that he said: "The seven heavens and the seven earths are no more in Allah's Hand than a mustard seed in the hand of one of you."

Ibn `Abbas (ra) informs us in this narration that the seven heavens and the seven earths in comparison to Allah's Hand - in spite of their enormity - are as insignificant as a mustard seed in a man's hand; and this is a comparison between the heavens and the earths and a mustard seed, not a comparison between Allah's Hand and the hand of man because nothing resembles Allah , either in His Attributes or in His Self.

Benefits Derived From This Narration


1. That the heavens are seven.

2. That the earths are seven.

3. That Ibn `Abbas confirms Allah's Possessing a Hand.

Relevance of This Narration to the Subject of the Chapter and to the Subject of Tawheed

That it proves the overwhelming Might and Power of Allah and the insignificance of His creatures and thus the obligation to glorify Him, Alone, without partners, by professing His Oneness in word and deed.

..ooOOoo..

Ibn Jareer said: " Yoonus told me that Ibn Wahb informed him that Ibn Zaid said: "My father told me: "Allah's Messenger said: "The seven heavens are no more in comparison to the Kursi than seven dirhams set in a shield." Abu Zarr (ra) said: "I heard Allah's Messenger say: "The Kursi is no more in comparison to the `Arsh (Throne) than an iron ring thrown in a vast desert."

The Prophet informs us in both of the above narration that Allah possesses a Kursi (Footstool) and an `Arsh (Throne) and that they are both immense, though the `Arsh is greater than the Kursi, for the comparison of the seven heavens to the Kursi is that of seven dirham coins set in a shield, while the comparison of the Kursi to the `Arsh is that of a ring thrown in a vast desert. And it has been reported in another Hadith on the authority of Ibn `Abbas (ra) that the Kursi is the resting place of the Feet of the Most Beneficent, and that none can estimate its vastness but He , Most Glorified, Most High.

Benefits Derived From These Two Hadith


1. Confirmation of the existence of Allah's `Arsh and His Kursi and that they are both His creations.

2. That making comparisons is a valid way of teaching in Islam.

3. Evidence of Allah's Greatness and Glory.

Relevance of These Two Hadith to the Subject of the Chapter and to the Subject of Tawheed

That both of them prove the obligation to glorify Allah by professing His Oneness and abstaining from all manner of Shirk.

..ooOOoo..

On the authority of Ibn Mas'ood (ra) it is reported that he said: "Between the lowest heaven and the next is the distance of five hundred years and between each of the seven heavens is the distance of five hundred years and the distance between the seventh heaven and the Kursi is also five hundred years and between the Kursi and the water is also five hundred years and the `Arsh is above the water and Allah is above the `Arsh and nothing is hidden from Allah of your deeds."

Benefits Derived From These Two Hadith


1. That there is a distance between each of the heavens and between the seventh heaven and the Kursi and between the Kursi and the water and between the water and the `Arsh, each equivalent to five hundred years' travel.

2. Confirmation of the existence of the Kursi, the water and the `Arsh, which is above them.

3. Confirmation of Allah's Divine Attribute of being above His creation.

4. Evidence that Allah's Knowledge encompasses all things.

5. Evidence of Allah's Might and Majesty.

..ooOOoo..

It is reported on the authority of Al-'Abbas (ra) that Allah's Messenger said:


"Do you know what is the distance between the heaven and the earth?" We said: "Allah and His Messenger know best." He said: "The distance between them is five hundred years and the distance between one heaven and the next is five hundred years and the dimension of each heaven would take five hundred years to travel and there is a sea between the seventh heaven and the `Arsh which has between its lowest and highest ends the distance equvalent to that between the heavens and the earth. And Allah , Most High, is above that and nothing is withheld from Him of the deeds of the sons of Adam." (Narrated by Abu Dawood and others)

Allah's Messenger informs us in this Hadith that the distance between each of the seven heavens is equivalent to five hundred years' travel and the distance between the earth and the lowest heaven is also equivalent to five hundred years' travel and between the seventh heaven and the `Arsh is a like distance and that the breadth of each heaven is likewise five hundred years and that Allah is above His `Arsh and nothing of His creation is hidden from Him.

Benefits Derived From This Hadith


1. Proof of the distances between the heavens and the earth, between each heaven and between the seventh heaven and the `Arsh.

2. That the seven heavens are separate from each other.

3. That the heavens are masses with a defined breadth.

4. Evidence of the position of the water.

5. Evidence of the existence of the `Arsh.

6. Confirmation of Allah's Divine Attribute of being above His creation.

7. The all-encompassing nature of Allah's Knowledge.

Relevance of This Hadith to the Subject of the Chapter and to the Subject of Tawheed

That the Hadith proves the obligation to glorify Allah by professing and practising Tawheed and abstaining from all manner of Shirk

 


[GR] > The Number 666 - God's Secret Place


Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Revelation 13.18

Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold.

I Kings 10.14


Topics in this Article
Six and Thirteen
666 in Creation
666 in the Garden
666 and Labour under the Sun
666 and Satan's Pride
666 and Holiness
666 and God's Secret Place
Evil Dark Side of 666
666 and Solomon's Gold
Mathematical Properties
Collected Identities
No number in the history of the World has stimulated more speculation than the enigmatic 666 of Revelation 13. The verse above contains the explicit imperative  (psephisato, let him calculate) from the root psephidzo (count, S# 5585). This verb is the root of  (Isopsephia = 1499) - the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew Gematria - from the roots "isos" (same, S# 2470) and "psephos" (pebble/count, S# 5586).

The study of the number 666 must therefore be understood as a command from the Lord, and should be obeyed. But to obey this command requires that we lay the foundation for the entire study of Numbers in Scripture, for the correct understanding of any number, like that of any word, depends on its context and relative meaning to other elements of the same class. This requires an indepth study, which is one of the purposes of this website. This study is not new. It has been known and practiced since ancient times. In the second century, Iraneus fought against its abuse by the Gnostics in his Against Heresies  while St. Clement of Alexandria  (as he is known to the Catholics and Greek Orthodox) practiced it with some alacrity while remaining (for the most part) within the bounds of Christian orthodoxy.


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Six and Thirteen
The appearance of the Number 666 in Revelation 13 integrates with the distribution of both the Greek word  (Hex, Six, S# 1803) and the Hebrew word  (Vav, Hook, S# 2053), the name of the Sixth Letter. Both of these words each appears exactly 13 times in Scripture! The significance of this "coincidence" is amplified by the natural geometry of the Number 13, which is fundamentally hexagonal - sixfold - since it is the first non-trivial Star Number:

 

There are many deep and profound ramifications of the relation between the Numbers Six and Thirteen. This Star Number is the basis of the Unity Holograph (Shema) just as the Hexagon/Star pair 37/73 forms the basis of the Creation Holograph. The Number 13 carries the fundamental significance of Love and Unity while Six carries the connotation of Work. Thus God's Work of Creation is intimately associated with these Numbers. The Star Numbers are the the root form of the Logos Star, the geometric representation of the prime number 373, the value of the Word God spoke to create the World.

The Numbers Six and Thirteen come together in the Prime Number 613 which is the quintessential self-chosen Number of the Jews, who concluded long ago that there are exactly 613 Commandments in the Torah. This number was one of the first to catch my attention many years ago because of the associated identities (613 = In the Torah = The First Covenant = Circumcision, etc.) Likewise, it is the Jews who recognized the profound spiritual significance of the Number 13, which they immortalized in their count of God's Thirteen Attributes of Mercy  and Maimonides codification of the Jewish Faith as Thirteen Articles . Note also that 613 = 13 + 600, which is the sum of the ordinal and sofit values of the Thirteenth Letter Mayim.

One of the most enduring mysteries is the near universal superstitious fear and distrust of the Numbers Six and Thirteen, especially in light of God's use of these numbers in Scripture. Nearly all Christians who study numbers in Scripture assign dark and sinister meanings to both of them. Aversion to the Number Six arises primarily from its association with Man (who is fallen and sinful) and the Number of the Beast. But this is an historical abberation that ignores the much more significant association of Six with God's great work of Creation. We must never forget that evil is a perversion of the fundamental goodness of God's Creation.

The reason for aversion to the Number 13 is much less obvious, there being a host of divergent explanations for this superstitious fear, technically known as triskaidekaphobia . Suggestions vary from the thirteen witches in a coven, the thirteenth guest at the Norse god Odin's ill-fated feast to the thirteen partakers of the Last Supper. Christians typically note that the first occurrence of thirteen in Scripture is in the context of rebellion (cf. Genesis 14) and that Genesis 13.13 contains the first occurrence of "sinners." They also note that some references to Satan are multiples of 13, though how they ignore its primary significance - which has been noted for centruries by the Jews who counted God's Thirteen Attributes of Mercy - remains a mystery. Personally, I think it is due to sloppy, incomplete and superstitious thinking. Nor can I discount the possible influence of anti-semitism which would reinforce the dark cloud over both numbers 6 and 13.

Each number has polarity - we can view both its positive and negative aspects. This is particularly evident with the Numbers 6, 13, and 666. Prejudice has discolored the understanding of many, if not most, people interested in Numbers and the Bible. This should serve as a clear warning of the absolute necessity that we guard against self-deception.


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666 in Creation
Let us begin in the beginnning. The Number 666 figures prominently in the Creation Holograph. This originates in the geometric and algebraic properties of the Number 6 which is deeply integrated with space-filling hexagonal symmetry, Hexagon/Star pairs such as 19/37 and 37/73 (cf. The Work of Creation). All of this is profoundly integrated with Base Ten and the prime Numbers 3, 7 which is explained with extreme precision by Vernon Jenkins in his article A Matter of Numerical Symbiosis . All these ideas then cohere in the astounding fractal hexagonal prime Star Number 373 which represents the Logos/Word (cf. The Logos Star). Most significant is the reiterative triangular structure of Genesis 1.1 which is the product of both the Hexagon/Star pairs 19/37 and 37/73:

Text Triangular Form Hex/Star Pairs
Genesis 1.1 = 2701 = Sum(73) = 37 x 73
= Sum(37) + 3 x Sum(36) = 19 x 37 + 3 x 666


The threefold appearance of the 36th triangle 666 in the sum of Genesis 1.1 forms a visually symmetric division of the number 2701 as the 73rd triangle:

 

The blue outline consists of 216 = 6 x 6 x 6 counters, which coincides with the value of the cubic Holy of Holies, which contained the Ark of God (Arun Elohim = 343 = 7 x 7 x 7). It would appear there is a deep integration of the Creation of the Universe with the Tabernacle of God. Indeed "Heaven is [His] dwelling place, and the earth is [His] footstool." The significance of this will be seen below when we examine the connection between 666 and Holiness.

We also should note that the Hebrew description of the dimensions of the cubic Holy of Holies, which God specified to be exactly 20 x 20 x 20 cubits, also evaluates to 666:

Twenty Cubits

 

Esarim Amah
 = 666
 

The Number 666 also appears in two other fundamentally important creation passages. In Jeremiah 10.12 we read:

He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.

Note the connection with Wisdom and Creation. We have the identity:

He made the earth

 

Asah Aretz
 = 666
 

Note the reference to Wisdom (Hokmah = 73) which integrates with the declaration of Revelation 13.18: "Here is wisdom." The Number 6 is the Number of both Man and Cosmos. It appears twice in Isaiah 42.5:

Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:

We have the pair of identities:

God the LORD,
he that created the heavens

 

HaEl YHVH Bo-rah Shamayim
  
 = 666 = He that spread forth
the earth

 

Raqa Aretz
  
 

The sum of the entire verse is the product of two hexagonal numbers, 3439 = 19 x 181. The Number 666 also appears in the Fourth Day:

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

We have the identity:

Let there be lights

 

Yahi Moroth
 = 666
 

This identity is part of a larger complex that includes the Number 777, as seen in the image below:

 

The sum of this phrase is therefore 666 + 777 = 1443 = 3 x 13 x 37 which relates to the Full Creation HyperHolograph through the identity:

13 x 37 = 481 = The Beginning (He Genesis)

Note that 13 and 37 are the second and third hexagonal Star Numbers. The integration of the Number Six, hexagonal symmetry, and Creation is very strong here.


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666 in the Garden
The perfection of the Number Six remained unblemished until the serpent entered the Garden and tempted Eve to sin. As an aside, we should note the identity of he who spoke to Eve. We have the pair of identities:

Now the serpent was more subtle
than any beast of the field
which the LORD God had made.

 

  
 = 2515 = The False Prophet [Rev 20.10]

 

Ho Pseudoprophetes
  
 

This is a translingual alphanumeric identity linking the liar in Genesis with the the false prophet of Revelation! It certainly would seem like a rather long stretch to assign this to "mere coincidence." It is part of a large set of identities based on multiples of the prime number 503 that culminates in the value of the Abomination of Desolation. There are also very significant identities listed under the prime Number 1697, which denotes the fully articulated Word of God.

Returning to the theme of 666: The lying promise of the devil was that Adam and Eve would be "as gods" [KJV] or "like God" [NIV]. The variation in translation is due to the plural ending of Elohim which allows the interpretation of "gods" in certain contexts rather than the typical "God." The translation "like God" is suported by the Lord's statement that after eating the fruit, Adam and Eve had indeed become "like Us." In any case, we have the identity:

Like God (Sof)

 

K'Elohim
 = 666
 

This identity is based on the sofit value of Mayim (600). The standard value (40) will also play a significant role, as seen below.

After succumbing to the tempation, God cursed the Serpent, Eve, and Adam. Adam's curse was specifically related to work - hence the Number 6. Adam and Eve were then driven from the Garden, and God placed cherubim and a flaming sword to keep the way of the Tree of Life:

and a flaming sword [Gen 3.24]

 

V'et Lahat HaCherev
 = 666
 


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666 and Labour under the Sun
Forever after the Fall, the Number 6 would be marked with the sin of Man and the suffering Work he would be subject to all the days he would live upon this earth, under the sun. The relation between this vain work and the number 666 is seen in this passage from Ecclesiastes (vs. 1.2f):

Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity. What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun?

We have the identity:

Profit (S# 3504)

 

Yitron
 = 666
 

The symbol of the Sun as signifying Work is strong. It connects the Number 6 and the Number 21 , which is the sixth triangular number, 21 = Sum(6). The word Sun (Shemesh) is a Shin KeyWord that is maximized on Spoke 21 in the Book of Ecclesiastes (cf. Under the Sun). The deep relation between the Number Six and the Sun manifests in the Sun being darkened in in both the Sixth Hour of Christ's Crucifixion and the Sixth Seal opened Revelation 6. The link between the Number 6 and the Sun is part of the ancient Jewish Kabbalistic tradition. This is discussed further below under the heading 666 and Solomon's Gold.

The connection between Profit, Work, and the Number 666 is amplified in Acts 19.25f:

For a certain man named Demetrius, a silversmith, which made silver shrines for Diana, brought no small gain unto the craftsmen; Whom he called together with the workmen of like occupation, and said, Sirs, ye know that by this craft we have our wealth.

We have the identity:

Wealth (S# 2142)

 

Euporia
 = 666
 

The connection between Work and Six is first established in God's Six Day Work of Creation which then forms the foundation of the Six Days of Labour and the Seventh Day Sabbath. It is, therefore, one the most firmly established numerical teachings in the Bible. Likewise, the connection between Six and the Sun is established in the repetive reference to man's labour "under the sun" in Ecclessiastes. These links are further integrated in the letters that spell  (HaShemesh, The Sun) which are an anagram of the Hebrew word for a six-sided geometric figure,  (Meshushah, Hexagon), from the root  (Sheysh, Six). This root will be seen below in the discussion of 666 and Solomon's Gold

It is this context of Work, Wealth, and Profit that relates most directly to the famous passage from Revelation 13

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Of course, the Number 6 is the Number of Man, whose creation occurred on the Sixth Day and whose destruction is prohibitted in the Sixth Commandment.


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666 and Satan's Pride
Fearful superstition has no place in the study of God's Word. We need to ask ourselves why the Number 666 is associated with the Beast of Revelation 13. The devil's false promise that Eve would be "like God" does not invladate the identity  (K'Elohim, Like God) = 666. This word is used elsewhere in Scripture in reference to the One True God, e.g. Psalm 77.14

Thy way, O God, is in the sanctuary: who is so great a God as our God [K'Elohim]?

The word "our" is italicized because it does not appear in the Hebrew. A more literal translation would have been simply "who is so great a God as God?" So how are we to interpret this? The undestanding begins in God's revelation of Satan's motivation in Isaiah 14:


How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Scripture is perfectly clear - Satan's motivation is pure pride, to be like God! Exactly the same thought emerges from the gematria of the declaration he repeated twice, where we now view the standard value of K'Elohim:

I will ascend

 

Olah
  
 = 106 = Like God

 

K'Elohim
  
 

This satanic pride finds its utlimate expression in 2 Thessalonians:

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

It doesn't get any plainer than this. Satan's aspiration is to set himself up as God Almighty. Indeed, he seeks to be like God = 666. Though there are dark overtones associated with the Number 666, these are the negative images of the extreme holiness that comes from God's supernatural design based on the Number 6, as we shall see now.


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666 and Holiness
There are many holy phrases whose gematria comes to 666. Perhaps the most significant is this from 2 Chronicles 35.3:

And said unto the Levites that taught all Israel, which were holy unto the LORD, Put the holy ark in the house which Solomon the son of David king of Israel did build; it shall not be a burden upon your shoulders: serve now the LORD your God, and his people Israel,

We have the identity:

The Holy Ark

 

Arun HaQadosh
 = 666
 

This fully integrates with the place where the Holy Ark was placed - the cubic 20 x 20 x 20 Holy of Holies called the Davir = 216 = 6 x 6 x 6. Both these numbers 666 and 6 x 6 x 6 figure prominently in the Creation Holograph (see above).

Exactly the same number is found in Leviticus 8.9, when Moses annointed Aaron and his sons:

And he put the breastplate upon him: also he put in the breastplate the Urim and the Thummim. And he put the mitre upon his head; also upon the mitre, even upon his forefront, did he put the golden plate, the holy crown; as the LORD commanded Moses.

We have the identity:

The Holy Crown

 

Nezar HaQadosh
 = 666
 

The essential holiness of the Number 666 can not be denied. It is designed by God. It marks the Beast because the Beast seeks to blaspheme God and sit in the Holy Place, exactly where the Holy Ark = 666 sat!

As a finally example, we have these multiple occurrences of the phrase "of/from God":

John 1.6: There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
John 9.16: Therefore said some of the Pharisees, This man is not of God, because he keepeth not the sabbath day. Others said, How can a man that is a sinner do such miracles? And there was a division among them.
John 9.33: If this man were not of God, he could do nothing.
2 Peter 1.17: For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
2 John 3: Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
In each case, the highlighted words are translated from the Greek phrase "para Theou." We have the identity:

From God

 

Para Theou
 = 666
 

In light of these identities, we must understand that God Himself is revealing the Number 666 as His own Number which marks the true intent of the the Devil, the Pseudochrist - i.e. False Christ, the true meaning of Antichrist - who would if he could, sit upon God's Throne in the Holy of Holies, "shewing himself that he is God."


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666 and God's Secret Place
The Holy of Holies had no light in it at all. The Holy Ark (= 666) - where God said He would meet with Moses - sat in complete darkness. This corresponds exactly with what the Lord said of Himself through the Prophet David in Psalm 18.11:

He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.

We have the identity:

His Secret Place

 

Sitrov
 = 666
 

This really sums up the Holy side of the relation between Darkness and the Number 666.


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The Evil Dark Side of 666
Every number can be thought of as a single Pole with two ends. For example, Karet (To Cut Off) is an anagram of Keter (Crown). Since an anagram uses the same letters, both Karet and Keter have the same numeric weight (620). The Rabbis understand this as a warning that those who inappropriately seek the powers of Keter (e.g. for personal gain) are in danger of being cut off from God. The Number 666 is no different, and the extreme holiness derived from its association with the Temple and Work of God is quickly transformed into godless darkness when that holiness is blasphemed. This mirrors exactly what happened when God's perfect Creation (based on the Number Six) was marred by sin. Below are the primay identities that relate to the dark side of 666.

The Evil Dark Side of 666
There is no man who does not sin [2Chr 6.36]


 
To turn (away) [Deu 5.32]


 
Because of unbelief [Heb 3.19]


 
Dwellingplace for dragons [Jer 51.36]


 
We perish [Lk 8.24]


 
The Day of the LORD is darkness, not light. [Amos 5.18]


 

The identity from Deuteronomy 5.32 (to turn away = 666), is particularly intriguing. It describes the content of the only verse in the New Testament indexed by the 666. We read (John 6.66):

From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.


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666 and Solomon's Gold
As mentioned above, the Number 666 is associated with the Sun, which itself is associated with the metal Gold. Scripture associates Gold and 666 in I Kings 10.14:

Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold.

A close examination of the underlying Hebrew yields an astounding identity. Here is an interlinear translation of the highlighted words:

 

The first three red letters spell the word  (Shemesh, Sun, S# 8121). The last two have the value 26 which coincides with the value of the Lord's Name  (YHVH). God unites these elements in Psalm 84.11:

For the LORD God is a sun and shield: the LORD will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.

Here is an interlinear translation of the first clause:

 

There is no Hebrew word corresponding to the English "is" in this verse. As is typical in Hebrew, the idea of "is" is communicated by a simple appostition of two or more words. Thus, we have the identity:

The Lord is a sun

 

YHVH Shemesh
 = 666
 

As with the other identities relating to God's sectret place, the Holy Ark and the Holy Crown, we see that 666 properly belongs to the Lord God Almighty. It is associtated with the Beast because of his blasphemous attempt to usurp God's place in the Holy of Holies.


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Mathematical Properties of 666
666 is the 36th triangular number (note that 36 = 6 x 6):
666 = Sum(36)
666 = Sum(6 x 6)
666 = 37 x (6 + 6 + 6)
666 = 2 x (3 x 37 x 3) This symmetric form mimics the form of Genesis 1.1 = 2701 = 37 x 73 and the form of God's creative Logos = 373
All substrings of 666 are triangular:
6 = Sum(3) = 1 + 2 + 3 = 1 x 2 x 3
66 = Sum(11) This integrates with the structure of Scripture through the identity Wheel (Galgal) = 66 = Number of Books in the Wheel.
666 = Sum(36) = Sum(6 x 6)
666 is the largest triangular number consisting of a single repeated digit.
6, 36, and 666 are each the sum of powers of 1, 2, and 3:
6 = 11 + 21 + 31
36 = 13 + 23 + 33
666 = 16 - 26 + 36
There is a general geometric relation between the sum of cubes and the squares of triangular numbers:

Sum of first N cubes = Square of Nth Triangle

For example the 3rd triangle is 6 and 6 x 6 = 36 = 13 + 23 + 33, as above. This leads to a series of identities relating to 36 and 666 that are based in geometry:

36 = 15 + 21 = Sum(5) + Sum(6) This is an example of the general formula Square(N) = Sum(N-1) + Sum(N)
666 = 152 + 212 = 225 + 441 = Sum(5)2 + Sum(6)2: This is an example of the general formula Sum(Square(N)) = Sum(N-1)2 + Sum(N)2. We can use this to rewrite 225 and 441 (which are squares of triangles):
225 = 13 + 23 + 33 + 43 + 53
441 = 13 + 23 + 33 + 43 + 53 + 63
This then allows us to rewrite the formula for 666:

666 = 13 + 23 + 33 +43 + 53 + 63 + 53 + 43 + 33 + 23 + 13
666 is the sum of the squares of the first seven primes:
666 = 22 + 32 + 52 + 72 + 112 + 132 + 172
666 is the sum of the first 144 digits of the decimal expansion of Pi - 3. Note 144 = 12 x 12 = 6 x 6 x 4.
Both 6 and 666 are double triangular numbers of powers of 2:
6 = Sum(Sum(2))
666 = Sum(Sum(2 x 2 x 2))
These could also be written in the somewhat symmetrical form:

Sum(Sum(2))/2 = 3 = Sum(Sum(2 x 2 x 2))/222
Many interesting properties of 666 are listed on MathWorld's page Beast Number  and on Mike Keith's page The Number of the Beast .

 


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Collected Identities relating to 666
 

The Number 666
Let there be lights [Gen 1.14]


 
Spread forth the earth [Is 42.5]


 
He made the earth [Jer 10.12]


 
Twenty Cubits [1Ki 6.20]


 
God the LORD who created the heavens [Is 42.5]


 
The Lord is a sun [Ps 84.11]


 
The work of the pillars [1Ki 7.22]


 
Pillar (Full) [Jud 16.29]


 
Profit [Ecc 1.3]


 
Wealth [Acts 19.25]


 
Like the dust of the earth [Gen 13.16]


 
and a flaming sword [Gen 3.24]


 
His secret place [Ps 18.12]


 
The Holy Ark


 
Holy Crown [Lev 8.9]


 
Like God (Sof) [Gen 3.5]


 
From God [Jn 1.6]


 
Thy God (Sof) [Is 40.9]


 
Thy Habitation (Sof) [Ps 91.9]


 
To turn (away) [Deu 5.32]


 
There is no man who does not sin [2Chr 6.36]


 
The Day of the LORD is darkness, not light. [Amos 5.18]


 
We perish [Lk 8.24]


 
Because of unbelief [Heb 3.19]


 
Dwellingplace for dragons [Jer 51.36]


 
Five Times [S# 3999]


 
Fourscore, Eighty (Full) [S# 8084]


 
I will keep my mouth [Ps 39.2]


 
tradition [S# 3862]


 
Which fell [2Ki 2.13]


 
a covering of the eyes [Gen 20.16]


 
All my bones [Ps 22.17]


 
and great shall be the peace of thy children [Is 54.13]


 


 
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It is helpful if people don't copy and paste long articles.

I'm also astounded to see my brethren say "well the doctors say my baby is a boy and 40 weeks later they were wrong." Does anyone know the difference between medical science asnd technological science? Physicians don't predict what the sex of a baby is they look at the ultrasound results from the Radiology (Ultrasound) department. then they can make that determination based on developed features they see in the frame. However, these human beings are subject to falibility because they are humans and they are also the ones reading the film. This does not disprove the entiree scientific field that its wrong and does not know it just proves that people make mistakes.

Science is unlike politics or religion. You can't make presumptions based on common knowledge or what you know in history to be true. Science is about testing something and replicating the idea over and over until it is true for others. You can't do this with religion but, many people here like to disassociate themselves with science and try to disprove its great value.



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Originally posted by seekshidayath seekshidayath wrote:

As'Salamu Alaikum WRWB,

The verse is ,'And He knows that which is in the wombs" 31 :34

Sister, its true that the scientists know whats in it today . But can these scientists tell us if that child is fair or ugly, miserable or happy, whether it will have a long or a short life or its fate. Its not concerned with if the child is girl or boy.

There's scientific answer too that may answer you, but i feel we need to have faith in Allah swt. But if you are to answer this to a non-muslim , i shall let it know you.

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