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Andalus wrote: With all due respect Br, such a conclusion does not follow. Some "salafis" do not like the site, does not mean that the site is the "middle path". One thing does not follow from the other. The site promotes self appointed clerics who have dismissed methodologies that are at the foundations of Islam for centuries. From what I have seen, none of them (clerics) represent any of the established schools of fiqh. There are only four schools of fiqh. This is why I presented my input. I have had several conversation with non believers who quote deviated fatwas from the likes of bin baaz as if it is an accepted ruling in the general context of Islamic fiqh. Some one presented such men and views to them as if it was the "official" view, and I simply explained that some do follow them, but it is far from the accepted view.  assalam aleikum

As Salamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala reward you brother for bringing up a very good point. Ameen!

So how do we determine who is a scholar. What criteria do we use?

I see now it was an error on my part to name Sayid Qutb with the great Imam Abu Hanifa. In recent months I have seen many articles criticising Imam Abu Hanifa, Shaikh ibn Baz and Sayid Qutb, so these names are fresh in the memory. Even if Shaikh ibn Baz and Sayid Qutb are not regarded as scholars, I am still trying to find out why they are being bashed. Imam Abu Hanifa is one of the greatest scholars and he is being called by so many terrible names. Why?

You mentioned about Shaikh ibn Baz�s deviant Fatawas. I am familiar with some of this works which are available in English and I don�t find anything deviant about his Fatawas. He keeps quoting Imam Ahmad Hanbal. I ask myself; �Am I missing something?� Maybe he made some mistakes which I have not come across yet but then everyone makes mistakes. We are all human.

What we have today is a �Cold War� situation between the Ahlul-Sunnah and Salafi. And who are the victims? We the common masses! Allah bestowed only on a selected few; the ability to understand and comprehend His Message and we the masses look to them for answers. Who are they? How do we find them? Where do we find them? During my search for knowledge at every turn I found confusion and more confusion. I pray things were simple and straightforward, like your explanation about the engineer. But it�s not, is it?

Alhamdulillah! Today I am not confused any more, as I took the best from what anyone had to offer. You see I am not fussy where I get my information, as long as the information I get is correct.

So how do I know if the information is correct? I don�t know. The only yardstick I have is: if the scholar or �scholar� quotes any Ayat from the Glorious Qur'an or a Hadith from the Six authentic sources or a ruling of one the 4 Imams of Fiqh (Madhhabs) to support his statement, I accept it as correct.  Not the best way to go about things especially in matters relating to our Deen, but it was the only way that worked for me.

Maybe we should start and new thread and share with each other how each of us goes about seeking knowledge.

May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala forgive us for our shortcomings and keep us on the straight path. Ameen!

Wa Alaikum Salam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Btw I am a sister.

Alwardah wrote: As Salamu Alaikum   Jazakallahu Khairan Br Andalus for your explanation. Personally I will not listen to what non believers tell me about Muslim scholars.   You are correct sometimes we do jump to the wrong conclusions, and �One thing does not follow from the other.�   As far as scholars are concerned there is a lot of scholar bashing these days and we are judging scholars by what others tell us about them. It is the same with great scholars like Imam Abu Hanifa and Sayid Qutb, and others who are called��� Audho Billahe minash Shaitanir-Rajim! May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala forgive us for our ignorance. Ameen!

Assalam Aleikum Brother.

I agree that scholar bashing is not healthy, but the point is this: How do we determine who a scholar is?

As an example, Sayid Qutb is not a scholar, not in the definition of Ahl Assunah. Having a degree (in a topic far from theology)  and being able to speak and write Arabic does not make one qualified to write a tafsir.

If I want to learn engineering, I seek out the best school to learn it (not from someone I know who has studied it with a friend that they know), and a nation will prevent faulty knoweldge by requiring a a standradized professional lisence through examination. This allows employers and builders and those who dwel (work and live) in their designs to make "taqlid" and not worry that the engineer had faulty knowledge or made errors, etc, etc, because we have the system in place to grant us "confidence" in the positions of engineers. The schools have also been "certified". Would you trust an engineer who some friends told you was really knowledgeable, had a degree in journalism, and good grades in sophmore Algebra, to design and over see the contruction of a bridge you and your family would use? Of course not. Not even a fool would take such a person as a qualified engineer. So why do so many of require so much less in terms of our spiritual growth and Iman? The things we require the best for are the things we covet. How much more important is our Iman?

jazakallahu khair Br.   

As Salamu Alaikum

Jazakallahu Khairan Br Andalus for your explanation. Personally I will not listen to what non believers tell me about Muslim scholars.

You are correct sometimes we do jump to the wrong conclusions, and �One thing does not follow from the other.�

As far as scholars are concerned there is a lot of scholar bashing these days and we are judging scholars by what others tell us about them. It is the same with great scholars like Imam Abu Hanifa and Sayid Qutb, and others who are called��� Audho Billahe minash Shaitanir-Rajim! May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala forgive us for our ignorance. Ameen!

I suppose the reason why I like Islam Q and A � I too don�t follow any one particular Imam, I love and follow all of them. It is obvious that we have different ways of seeking knowledge.

May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala guide us and keep us on the correct Deen despite our different ways. Ameen!

Wa Alaikum Salam

Andalus wrote: Knowledge01 wrote: Bismillahi Rahmani Rahim, As Salamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu, Alhamdulillah I have come across an excellent website containing thousands of fatawa from the most prominous shuyukh of this century, mostly, Sheikh Muhammad Al Munajjid, Sheikh Ibn Uthaimin, Sheikh Abdullah Ibn Baz, and Sheikh Salih Ibn Fawzan Al Fawzan. The best thing about this website is that the shuyukh always present numerous daleel and the different opinions pertaining to each matter. If you are searching for an answer to a particular question or just want to gain knowledge, I encourage you to visit this website. I myself can spend hours on it if time allows. Islam Question and Answer in Arabic http://islamqa.com/index.php?ln=ara Islam Question and Answer in English http://islamqa.com/index.php?ln=eng   These men are not "widely" accepted scholars. They are "wahabi" self appointed clerics. The late bin baz was a known deviant and made some extremely ignorant claims. Anyone who follows their corrupted fatwas does so at their own risk.

As Salamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

I was truly saddened by this comment by brother Andalus, not because Shaikh ibn Baz (Rahimahullah) is amongst one of the scholars whose works, I refer to from time to time but because, my late father (Rahimahullah) met him personally and he always said that he never met a more down to earth person than the late Shaikh. Anyway we all entitled to our own opinions.

Regarding this site Islam Questions and Answers, in my opinion (for what ever it is worth) this site is one of the best sites for authentic information. What is ironical is that even the so called �Salafi� scholars will not endorse this site. So from that you can come to the conclusion that Shaikh Muhammad Al-Munajjid is on the �Middle Course.�

May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala forgive us for our shortcomings. Ameen!

Wa Alaikum Salam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu