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Sawtul Khilafah
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Topic: Iranian Shiah Mullahs allow Sex change!!! Posted: 14 July 2007 at 11:16am |
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1_LI6fXFUtA The Iranian Government only uses Islam as a mask while allowing the most disgusting and evil things, including sex change! |
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abuayisha
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Posted: 14 July 2007 at 3:35pm | |||
Israfil
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Posted: 15 July 2007 at 9:13am | |||
Why is this disgusting and evil? This is their human right. not everyone is normal in the brain like you Sawtul. God didn't make everyone the same either. Remember, there is a possibility that their neurochemistry is different than the "average" heterosexual, "normal" male.
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rami
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Posted: 15 July 2007 at 1:26pm | |||
Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem
assalamu alaikum no matter what there illness is it is haram to mutilate the body and it is haram to be homosexual. the argument of wrong chemistry is premature and only a hypothesis by islamic stadards, hormone supliments are readily available. |
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Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.
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Sawtul Khilafah
Senior Member Joined: 20 July 2006 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 623 |
Posted: 15 July 2007 at 4:01pm | |||
Read the Qur'an, Surah Nisa verse 119 where Satan says: "and assuredly I will incite them to alter Allah's creation"
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Israfil
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Posted: 15 July 2007 at 5:01pm | |||
Rami, You would be mistaken to think that the gender-identity disorder is as simple as popping a few testosterone and estrogen pills in your mouth and simply awaiting their effects. Because this is my field of study (along with Philosophy of course) I think I have more of an in-depth knowledge of neuroscience than you sir. You see, Several regions in the human brain differ in organization between men and women. For example, distinct cell groups in the preoptic and anterior hypothalamic area are larger, and the suprachiasmatic nucleus contains more vasoactive intestinal polypeptide-immunoreactive cells in young men than in young women. Clear anatomical sex differences have also been described in the human bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BST). The darkly staining posteromedial component of the BST (BST-dspm) and the central subdivision of the BST (BSTc) are both larger in men than in women (See Ref: Allen and Gorski, 1990 As you can see, differences in the size of the human BSTc have been related to the gender identity disorder transsexuality, in which subjects voice the strong feeling of being born in the wrong sex. In male-to-female transsexuals, the BSTc was similar in size to that of control women, whereas in the only female-to-male transsexual studied so far, the BSTc was similar in size to that of control men (See Ref: Swaab and Hofman, 1995 The following I retrieved from the UCLA school department of neuroscience shows a diagram of how complex the issue of trassexuality is. Basically this schematic is a picture of the BST or, bed nucleus of the stria terminalis:
Even though there is adifference in size in the BST in the male-to-female transsexuals, studies show that the study of the varying size of the BST does not explain hormonal levels. In actuality, considered together with information from animals, some studies have proven the hypothesis that gender identity alterations may develop as a result of an altered interaction between the development of the brain and sex hormones.
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Israfil
Senior Member Joined: 08 September 2003 Status: Offline Points: 3984 |
Posted: 15 July 2007 at 5:15pm | |||
Muslim Scholars are not neuroscientist and because I have found many Muslim Scholars to not have an extensive background in Neuroscience it would be valid to say that their argument of sin is not legitimate to warrant condemnation since their explanation is solely relgiously based. The physical and molecular level of the brain is more complex as you say Rami, we have medication readily available however, that does not always work. You cannot alter the physical composition and cellular structure of the brain simply by altering its neurochemistry because even with medication it does not always mean solution. For instance we have medication to treat drug withdrawls by inducing a particular neurotransmitter (i.e. Serotonin, Dopamine etc) however most individuals because of long term drug use have altered their neurochemistry therefore (or some` type of predisposition), will be on medication for the rest of their lives. Similarly with transsexuals since there is nothing that concretely shows the direct link to Gender-Identity Disorder (except through studies of correlation) we can only speculate through behavioral studies from animals. From a legal aspect you cannot ban sex change to curb a physiological disorder, you are simply masking the reality from your environment. You also cannot change a person simply by being like a Christian Evangelist and thumping the Qur'an at them, especially if their neurochemistry is altered. Simply reading, meditating on the Qur'an is, unfortunately in this case not enough. This same argument can be said for being homosexual. Sawtul, your argument is moot and shows no relationship between what Satan says and what you posted. Your opinion (and Rami's) are simply opinions based upon limited understanding on neuropsychology and mostly on religious opinion on trassexuality. Every individual has a right to do as they wish to their body because, it is human right. To say "no, you cannot do this or that" is to curb the "God given right" which is our supposed freewill. To keep humans from doing such is indeed an infringement on our human rights. No religious Scholar or any society should force someone to be what they don't feel. Now, I'm not knowledgable about Iranian laws but I'm sure their laws are in connection with Islamic Law (Shari'ah) so I'm sure they have laws against public indencency of some sort but this is different than transsexuality. Changing one's gender is neither indecent or evil as the former does not offend the public and the latter does not harm the public. This is merely a personal matter which only God knows. I say, leave people alone and let God decide in the end. Edited by Israfil |
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Abu Mujahid
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Posted: 16 July 2007 at 4:51am | |||
Israfil,
Women who has sex out of marriage are not immoral, Athiest can be pious. And now homos/trans or gender change are human rights issues. What is Next? The current commericial gender change like that Mayor man did has nothing to do with gender correction. Nor it has any legal stand in sane world let alone in Islam. UCLA or most other medical institutions claims are nothing but pure gender altering which Islam has prohibited.
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